The Final Word about the Government Shutdown - yes, the Republicans can end it unilaterally

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Since my pretty table doesn't work, here are three small explanations.
  • Changing Senate Precedent (The "Nuclear Option")
This mechanism allows a simple majority (51 votes) to unilaterally change the Senate's interpretation of its own rules. By appealing a ruling from the chair and winning a simple majority vote on that appeal, the majority party can set a new precedent that lowers the threshold required to end a filibuster (cloture) on funding bills from 60 votes down to 51, effectively bypassing the minority's blockade.

  • Enforcing Rule XIX ("Two-Speech")
This option involves the majority forcing the minority to conduct a "talking filibuster" by adhering strictly to the Senate's formal rules. By keeping the Senate on the same legislative day indefinitely, the majority can force every objecting minority senator to physically come to the floor and speak; once each objector has used their two allotted speeches, they are procedurally exhausted and can no longer block a final, simple-majority vote.

  • Budget Reconciliation
This is an existing legal process that allows certain legislation related to the federal budget (spending, revenue, or the debt limit) to pass the Senate with only a simple majority. However, this process is legally restricted by the "Byrd Rule," which prohibits its use for general government funding (discretionary appropriations), as such funding is deemed "extraneous" to the process's defined purpose, making it a non-viable option for ending a shutdown. Not that the RepubliKKKans care for due process or legality anyway. This administration is ignoring judges already when they disagree with them!


So, whenever some smooth-brain here says "THE DEMS ARE CAUSING THE SHUTDOWN" point them here, please. These options exist. The fact they are not viable because of RepubliKKKan ineptitude is not relevant.
 
Hmm...Trump sure is pestering republicans to "end the fillibuster", which if I understand it correctly, would be that first option. The reason his party doesn't want to is future-related: it would mean that once the democrats gain a simple majority, they can use that very same tactic to push through whatever they want. And while I disagree with that party on pretty much literally any talking point, I can see their reasoning here: it would stop the shutdown but would make future chaos more likely. The model itself isn't broken, they way it's being abused is the problem. They've also painted themselves in the corner: it took them a month of claiming the shutdown is caused by the democrats. If it can be solved by the republicans alone, it will fool even less people.

And with the risk of kicking the hornet's nest: there's another way republicans can re-open the government. They can straight up claim a win by saying democrats "no longer" want to provide obamacare to illegal aliens and sign guarantees that the affordable care act is maintained as it currently is. It won't fool anyone with brains, but they're not the target for the claim to begin with.
 
Of course they could end it any time, it's not like Dems were asking a lot to begin with. Just a year more of ACA subsidies until Trump loses his party the mid-term elections. Republicans enjoy causing the middle and lower class to suffer, if the consumer economy does crash billionaires can buy it out for pennies on the dollar, and then there's the whole Epstein thing not going away either.

Not to mention that Trump said something along the lines of "pass this one bill and we're done for four years." Wouldn't surprise me if he decided he wants to just keep it shut down permanently and rule by decree (executive order) from here on out. Not that his EOs are worth a jar of piss while the shutdown continues.

I was asking about the ramifications of eliminating the ability to filibuster.
Would give whichever party that has a slight majority much more control over Congress. Republicans already believe they have enough control over the consumer economy/stock market though, and they know there's a huge risk of it backfiring with mid-terms right around the corner.
 
Dems finally cave in it seems No money for illegals LMAO HAHAHAH
after trump basicly started starving the poverty line (pretty sure that will bite him in the ass for 2026 since most sane americans know it's the gop's fault now we have to contend with higher premiums cause of this bullshit
 
I totally forsee this ending well.(Immense sarcasm)
It's only going to result in the slight cost of double to triple the healthcare premiums.

Meanwhile the president of the United States has a fucking party.

Yes let's just price out the average citizen on needs while smashing the Whitehouse for a giant ballroom for all your mega donors.
 
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I totally forsee this ending well.(Immense sarcasm)
It's only going to result in the slight cost of double to triple the healthcare premiums.

Meanwhile the president of the United States has a fucking party.

Yes let's just price out the average citizen on needs while smashing the Whitehouse for a giant ballroom for all your mega donors.
The same morons who struggle and suffer now voted for him. Clearly sometimes not even a burnt hand is a valuable lesson.
 
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