Trump announces that Antifa is now a major terrorist organization

[Valwinz]

About time, those antifa clowns where here years ago and destroyed stores and vandalize a lot of stuff.

They are radicalizing people

 

[Xzi]

About time, those antifa clowns where here years ago and destroyed stores and vandalize a lot of stuff.

They are radicalizing people

75% of domestic terrorism has been right-wing (religious, bigoted) since you were born, child.

 

[The Catboy]

Being against Fascism is terrorism. Okay

facist commie!

Imagine putting these two words together and expecting to be taken seriously

 

[Vixi]

I think it's time we stopped using abbreviations and always refer to it as anti fascism.

Make them criticize you for supporting/being anti fascism.

 

[Taleweaver]

Antifa sprang out of the German Communist Party (KDP). In the early period of the Nazi Party's rise, ie pre 1928, funding for resistance was provided from the USSR through the Comintern. Later in the 20's though the effectiveness of Antifa, and maybe how much funding they got, was affected by 1) Stalin starting to cozy up to Hitler, and 2) Stalin declaring the Social Democrats (SDP) in Germany as semi-fascist. But when the KDP first set Antifa into motion, the money was definitely coming from the USSR and it has to be assumed that Stalin had the same goal for Germany then as he had for Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, etc.

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Anarchists are active in United States' Antifa.

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SOCIALISM AS WELL???!!! Bwhaahahahahaha!!!

I can't blame you for using wikipedia as a link, but it's clear that there's some heavy political editing going on that page. That, or antifa has more of an identity crisis than anything else.

The power of any movement is in the resonance they bring outside. But what kind of a resonance do you get with this?
Communism: all power to the government
Socialism: all power to the work force
Anarchism: no power for anyone

Do you see the problem there? You can rally people around lies, but you can't rally them around directly conflicting lies. Any meeting or even propaganda speech would directly be shot down by believers in the "other" antifa ideology.

 

[Reualed]

SOCIALISM AS WELL???!!! Bwhaahahahahaha!!!

I can't blame you for using wikipedia as a link, but it's clear that there's some heavy political editing going on that page. That, or antifa has more of an identity crisis than anything else.

The power of any movement is in the resonance they bring outside. But what kind of a resonance do you get with this?
Communism: all power to the government
Socialism: all power to the work force
Anarchism: no power for anyone

so... kinda hate to break it, but they are compatible, you have communism wrong more or less. (or what version being thought of)
Short version: It's communism in the sense of marx definition. Not Stalins. Which marx's would of been stateless classless moneyless
In that sense, absolutely would be compatible with anarchism. if you wish to argue about how the fuck would work it? That's 100% valid. Since not doing any of those three seems to particularly difficult.

And socialism the point is that the workforce has control through unions not the government. You technically can do it through the government, but there is severe flaws when it happens that way.
anarchism leans more towards either having a very weak and small government, or lacking one entirely. By the government having near no power, it lacks the means to capitalize or take power from people. Aka, everyone in theory should be equal. (doesn't mean it will be. Work has to be put in to make it happen.)

 

[Dark_Ansem]

so... kinda hate to break it, but they are compatible, you have communism wrong more or less. (or what version being thought of)

What does this even mean ffs

 

[Reualed]

What does this even mean ffs

Could you explain your issue to me? Like is it poor grammar? (I did just wake up so I might have to comeback and fix the phrasing if it is that poor.)
You have an issue with what I said?

 

[Dark_Ansem]

You have an issue with what I said?

It just doesn't really make a lot of sense

 

[Reualed]

It just doesn't really make a lot of sense

Very productive conversation we got here.

okay but seriously, what part doesn't make sense? Is it a disagreement? is it that the explanation is poor? Am I failing the English language and put up a word salad? I am trying to get your feedback.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Very productive conversation we got here.

okay but seriously, what part doesn't make sense? Is it a disagreement? is it that the explanation is poor? Am I failing the English language and put up a word salad? I am trying to get your feedback.

Communism socialism and anarchy aren't compatible. Anarchy is just incompatible wirh everything, and socialism is incompatible with communism because of communist authoritarianism which doesn't sit well with socialist diffusion of power.

Also, what's the point of talking about communism today, I have more chances of becoming the king of England than communism making a comeback

 

[Reualed]

Communism socialism and anarchy aren't compatible. Anarchy is just incompatible wirh everything, and socialism is incompatible with communism because of communist authoritarianism which doesn't sit well with socialist diffusion of power.

Also, what's the point of talking about communism today, I have more chances of becoming the king of England than communism making a comeback

Okay, so it's a disagreement, at least I know what you are referring to. I am not going to go argue about it since we already deviated pretty far off topic and I've already spoken my piece about Stalin's version of communism, and the distinction from Marx's version. Which was very explicit.

 

[Hanafuda]

SOCIALISM AS WELL???!!! Bwhaahahahahaha!!!

I can't blame you for using wikipedia as a link, but it's clear that there's some heavy political editing going on that page. That, or antifa has more of an identity crisis than anything else.

The power of any movement is in the resonance they bring outside. But what kind of a resonance do you get with this?
Communism: all power to the government
Socialism: all power to the work force
Anarchism: no power for anyone

Do you see the problem there? You can rally people around lies, but you can't rally them around directly conflicting lies. Any meeting or even propaganda speech would directly be shot down by believers in the "other" antifa ideology.

Go over to images.google.com

Search "antifa mugshots"

Inspect results

Then get back to me on whether you think most of the people in those arrest photos are well-versed in the ideological distinctions you discussed above.

 

[urherenow]

Also, what's the point of talking about communism today, I have more chances of becoming the king of England than communism making a comeback

Comeback? As if it ever went away? Last I Checked, there were still 5 countries that are communist or ruled by a single communist party, even if capitalistic ideals have crept in.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

5 countries that are communist or ruled by a single communist party, even if capitalistic ideals have crept in.

They have kept the name of communism and ditched the substance so yeah, communism is dead.

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Which was very explicit.

And also very academic.

 

[Vixi]

 

[Cylent1]

Being against Fascism is terrorism. Okay


Imagine putting these two words together and expecting to be taken seriously

imagine being facist and "anti-facist" at the same time and expecting to be taken seriously!

 

[ChronosNotashi]

imagine being facist and "anti-facist" at the same time and expecting to be taken seriously!

What? You mean like...a Schrödinger's Facist? Is...is that even a thing?

Because a thing like that would be worse than someone just being a legitimate, straight-up facist.

 

[DarknessPlay3r]

I would imagine so, since the government has now gone full mask off and is trying to leverage Kirk's murder as their Reichstag fire. Every day it seems less and less likely that there can be any peaceful solution for retaining our freedoms.

I think that's the idea. Get the lower class' (peasants) fighting among themselves.

The actual solution would be to keep working towards uniting against the real threat, the elite's of the world.

 

[Cylent1]

All the kiddo's here know an awful alot about commie's and facism like they study it 24\7.
I wonder if they all have the book "Rules for Radicals".
Seems like that this is the only thing except gaming they care about.
Maybe one day they will reach puberty and grow up and be productive in this society we are all aprt of.
The world doesn't evolve around you!