Prediction time: Will Trump pardon Ghislaine Maxwell?

[The Catboy]

So what! Did he barge in an molest her, no! Still nothing!!!

So you are fine with an adult man watching 15-year-old girls undress?

 

[SeltzerMist]

No button mashing here, just paying attention to the notification of a new post. His actions were out of line when walking in on adult women changing, but not criminal. There's no real tangible evidence that he abused young girls - it's all innuendo, hearsay and rumors. It's a lot of upset people trying to tarnish the name of a great man. They are jealous of his net worth and can't fathom why they can't control him the way they try to control everyone else. The real crime here is all these people trying to string nothingness together to create an elaborate ruse in an attempt to attack a sitting President.

Get a life Heavy

 

[Sir Tortoise]

It's not against norms to make comments relating to wanting sexual relations with adults and it's not against norms to claim that young girls are good looking. It is against the norms to hit on or have sexual relations with young girls and there is no proof Trump did this. However, if he did indeed walk in on 15 year olds while they were undressing that would be pretty perverted. I don't think that happened though. Taking the word of someone accusing Trump of doing something they can't prove he did isn't going to fly with people that want more than rumors to convict someone with.

I agree we need more than rumours to convict, but this is a forum thread, not a court. I'm more than happy with the threshold of "that looks incredibly suspicious" to form my personal opinions, and I think most people don't have to wait for 100% irrefutable proof to have an opinion on things - unless they really don't want to believe one of the options.

With everything Trump has said over the years, and all the information regarding his relationship with Epstein, surely it is at least more likely than not? Friends with Epstein, has bragged about walking in on women and been accused of doing the exact same with girls, "grab them by the pussy", has made some extremely weird comments about his own daughters, and is now acting very strangely towards Maxwell and releasing the Epstein files.
If I had to bet money, I'd need something pretty good to push all that and more back into the "probably not" range, and that's just for the claims regarding children instead of the many more for women in general.

 

[savageNation]

So you are fine with an adult man watching 15-year-old girls undress?

No, and I already stated that if that happened it is perverted, but you need proof that it happened - not just rumors.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/03/26/trump-pageant-dressing-rooms/

 

[BlazeHeatnix]

it's not against norms to claim that young girls are good looking. It is against the norms to hit on or have sexual relations with young girls and there is no proof Trump did this.

Hold up, are you saying it's socially acceptable to find underage girls attractive? Are you out of your mind?

 

[The Catboy]

No, and I already stated that if that happened it is perverted, but you need proof that it happened - not just rumors.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/03/26/trump-pageant-dressing-rooms/

Did you even read what you posted? Trump literally admitted to this shit and had multiple victims come forward with their stories. It's kind of amazing how many people have accused Trump of fucked up shit, Trump admitted to doing fucked up shit, Trump is looking to pardon sex offenders, he's been friends with sex offenders, talked about wanting to date his own daughter, and those are just the past few months/years. It's not just perverse; Trump has a long history of being a creep. It's hard to believe Trump, who's on a list of pedos, is suddenly the only innocent person. Why would an innocent person go back on their word to release files that could hold serial pedos/rapists accountable? Why would they downplay those files? Lie about those files? Why would they start scrubbing those files?

 

[SeltzerMist]

I mean these are all excellent points but MAGA aren't known for having critical thinking skills, let alone basic thinking skills.

 

[savageNation]

Hold up, are you saying it's socially acceptable to find underage girls attractive? Are you out of your mind?

I said "good looking". It's not against norms to tell someone they are good looking, even if they are only 15. I had a grandma who told me I was a good looking boy along with teachers and other parents. It's innocent. There's no intention for sexual relations involved.

Did you even read what you posted? Trump literally admitted to this shit and had multiple victims come forward with their stories. It's kind of amazing how many people have accused Trump of fucked up shit, Trump admitted to doing fucked up shit, Trump is looking to pardon sex offenders, he's been friends with sex offenders, talked about wanting to date his own daughter, and those are just the past few months/years. It's not just perverse; Trump has a long history of being a creep. It's hard to believe Trump, who's on a list of pedos, is suddenly the only innocent person. Why would an innocent person go back on their word to release files that could hold serial pedos/rapists accountable? Why would they downplay those files? Lie about those files? Why would they start scrubbing those files?

So again, your side has NOTHING.

 

[Sir Tortoise]

So again, your side has NOTHING.

I think it's enough that I wouldn't want to leave a child unattended with him. If you wouldn't dare make such a stance without a full criminal conviction (in an area of crime where they are exceedingly rare) then, okay. But I have my suspicions.

He could clear all this up by releasing the files.

 

[The Catboy]

So again, your side has NOTHING.

At least I can confirm this is obviously Heavy.

My "side" is just using my brain, looking at the evidance, and putting the pieces together. I am sorry you are incapable of critical thinking and puzzle-solving. Maybe if you listened to Trump himself, you would think something doesn't make sense. Riddle me this, why did Trump promise to release the list then change his mind after being informed his name is on the list?

 

[savageNation]

At least I can confirm this is obviously Heavy.

My "side" is just using my brain, looking at the evidance, and putting the pieces together. I am sorry you are incapable of critical thinking and puzzle-solving. Maybe if you listened to Trump himself, you would think something doesn't make sense. Riddle me this, why did Trump promise to release the list then change his mind after being informed his name is on the list?

What list? The one that only exists in your mind? The list that was released earlier this year didn't even prove anything. There was no evidence in it that Trump was raping girls! Unlike Biden who was recorded fondling children or Clinton who got a picture of him painted in a dress Trump has no such crap related to him. He kicked Epstein from his property because of Epstein's behavior with his younger female staff. If Trump was doing what you accuse him of why would he have Epstein removed from his property? You can't say and I can't say. I am a very good critical thinker which is why I see patterns of lies, rumors and deceptions coming from you and your friends. Reply when you have some tangible evidence.

 

[DiscostewSM]

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-biden-digitally-altered-photo-child-595896400372

So, turns out there are people altering photos of Biden to make it seem like he fondles children. Of course MAGA would try and claim it's real while at the same time always claim anything bad about Trump is fake news.

 

[savageNation]

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-biden-digitally-altered-photo-child-595896400372

So, turns out there are people altering photos of Biden to make it seem like he fondles children. Of course MAGA would try and claim it's real while at the same time always claim anything bad about Trump is fake news.

The videos I'm talking about were made before AI became a thing. I'm not sure about normal photos, I'm referring to the videos that surfaced years ago.

 

[DiscostewSM]

The videos I'm talking about were made before AI became a thing. I'm not sure about normal photos, I'm referring to the videos that surfaced years ago.

So, where is it? Is this also saying that using AI is a bad thing?

Here's another article about alterations done to make Biden look bad.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-biden-granddaughter-sticker-voting-495345266413

 

[savageNation]

So, where is it? Is this also saying that using AI is a bad thing?

Here's another article about alterations done to make Biden look bad.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-biden-granddaughter-sticker-voting-495345266413

This is one of the videos I'm referring to. There's more, but I'm finding it hard to track them down. I'll reply when I can find more. I've heard about the fake images and that's not what I referring to.

Also, if these videos are altered then how can you trust that any videos that surface with Trump aren't altered?

https://www.c-span.org/clip/public-...-biden-when-he-touches-her-chest-area/4918194

It's funny how the Liberals simply dismiss anything relating to Biden as fake, yet try to claim that there's evidence that Trump did the same things when there's nothing to see or read that directly implicates him. I'm not fond of the court of public opinion and I know how the legal system works - you need tangible evidence to convict, not rumors and theories! When you have something solid then we'll talk, but until you do there's really nothing more to discuss.

 

[Earthshine]

This is one of the videos I'm referring to. There's more, but I'm finding it hard to track them down. I'll reply when I can find more. I've heard about the fake images and that's not what I referring to.

Also, if these videos are altered then how can you trust that any videos that surface with Trump aren't altered?

https://www.c-span.org/clip/public-...-biden-when-he-touches-her-chest-area/4918194

It's funny how the Liberals simply dismiss anything relating to Biden as fake, yet try to claim that there's evidence that Trump did the same things when there's nothing to see or read that directly implicates him. I'm not fond of the court of public opinion and I know how the legal system works - you need tangible evidence to convict, not rumors and theories! When you have something solid then we'll talk, but until you do there's really nothing more to discuss.

LOL! How incredible lame. What you and other morons are saying is happening in that video, is not what is happening in that video.

 

[DiscostewSM]

LOL! How incredible lame. What you and other morons are saying is happening in that video, is not what is happening in that video.

It's a user-submitted video with the claim of what is happening in it. Thing is, there is more to this video than what this particular clip shows, extending beyond this "scene" where the girl shows no discomfort standing near Biden as if this supposed "fondling of the chest" never took place.

They'll just keep jumping to something else, hoping they can finally hit the bull's eye to proclaim "first try".

This actually revolves back to Epstein, where including footage that was "cut" tends to tell a different story.

 

[savageNation]

It's a user-submitted video with the claim of what is happening in it. Thing is, there is more to this video than what this particular clip shows, extending beyond this "scene" where the girl shows no discomfort standing near Biden as if this supposed "fondling of the chest" never took place.

They'll just keep jumping to something else, hoping they can finally hit the bull's eye to proclaim "first try".

This actually revolves back to Epstein, where including footage that was "cut" tends to tell a different story.

So I provide an unaltered video of Biden trying to rub a female childs breast and you claim its nothing! If that's the case then anything Trump is shown to do on video must be fake too, right? I mean, if that's how you're going to play this then that makes sense. I don't give two flying fucks how the child acted, shes a kid, keep your hands off her breasts!

https://www.ibtimes.sg/did-joe-biden-pinch-8-year-old-girls-nipple-62138
https://au.news.yahoo.com/creepy-fo...oung-girl-sparks-heated-debate-041807930.html
https://mainstreetdigest.com/2022/0...g-childs-nipple-while-touring-daycare-center/

LOL! How incredible lame. What you and other morons are saying is happening in that video, is not what is happening in that video.

Entertain me then, what is exactly happening? He tries to rub her breast. Case closed. You're the "lame" one for defending a pedophile that was caught on video then turning around and attacking Trump when there's ZERO credible evidence he did anything with underage girls.

 

[DiscostewSM]

So I provide an unaltered video of Biden trying to rub a female childs breast and you claim its nothing! If that's the case then anything Trump is shown to do on video must be fake too, right? I mean, if that's how you're going to play this then that makes sense. I don't give two flying fucks how the child acted, shes a kid, keep your hands off her breasts!

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Entertain me then, what is exactly happening? He tries to rub her breast. Case closed. You're the "lame" one for defending a pedophile that was caught on video then turning around and attacking Trump when there's ZERO credible evidence he did anything with underage girls.

It shows his hand on her arm. Take a science class and learn about basic human anatomy. Why is this limited to being a random clip, and not a hot topic at any point after the supposed groping happened? Because maybe, just maybe, nobody else thinks what is happening is what you and that uploader thinks is happening. Your proof is a clip uploaded to a website that even says "This clip, title, and description were not created by C-SPAN".

What's funny is how you say the little girl, too young to have breasts, has breasts. Classic case of exaggeration and continued lack of understanding human anatomy. Love the take of it's "nothing" that comes out of your mouth in every conceivable way. "You've got nothing" "It's nothing." It's almost like you have nothing of substance. What is even more hilarious is even in light of this, you still think it's okay for a grown man to barge into a dressing room of women both adult and teen for the purpose of seeing them undressing.

You definitely need help, hombre. Trump has you brainwashed. He used you, got what he wanted, and now he'll throw you under the bus like everyone else that he has no use of.

 

[SeltzerMist]

Did heavy confuse a breast and an arm is that the takeaway here?