Prediction time: Will Trump pardon Ghislaine Maxwell?

[Sir Tortoise]

Maxwell didn't kill herself.

I'm going to look like such an idiot if this causes the "no" vote to be correct. I did not think this through.

 

[titan_tim]

Now she's been moved to a minimum security prison. She's going to be questioned by the senate, but she'll be given all the questions in advance. Not sure why they need her in person if they're just going to let her have a script. She may as well just have all the questions answered on paper.

When she realized they were treating her with kid gloves, she tried to traffic the gloves.

 

[Darth Meteos]

if it's politically expedient, sure
trump doesn't give a fuck

 

[Deleted member 705600]

Okay now, seriously, this is just too on the nose now

Please people, don't even bother answering, because it obviously it's coming either from the same person, or a friend-someone related that decided to just say the same talking points

 

[Vixi]

The fact is that there's no evidence Trump molested children. All of this nonsense coming from the left doesn't fill up 1/4 of a glass of water.

There's evidence of a coverup and an alleged victim feeling threatened into retracting her case.

 

[Sir Tortoise]

The fact is that there's no evidence Trump molested children. All of this nonsense coming from the left doesn't fill up 1/4 of a glass of water.

Great, so release the files. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

 

[Xzi]

Hypothetically if the files in full are released and there is no proof that Trump was a client will you drop the issue, admit that you were wrong and apologize?

That would've already happened a month or more ago if it was going to. Instead they insulted everybody's intelligence by claiming there was no client list, and have since changed their story multiple times to try to save face. Meanwhile, we've had multiple confirmed reports that Trump knew his name was in the files, and they needed a team of 1,000 FBI agents to comb through them to redact it.

 

[Sir Tortoise]

Hypothetically if the files in full are released and there is no proof that Trump was a client will you drop the issue, admit that you were wrong and apologize?
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Yeah, I will. Misinformation is rampant, I've seen edited stuff used for and against everyone, if I'm going to shittalk someone I want it to be accurate. That's why I made this thread, it's about Maxwell but I want to commit openly to a stance and then see what happens, just in case I'm wrong. I said it right in the first post, I have basically already answered your question there.

It is not out of the realm of possibility that Trump is uninvolved. I think that's highly unlikely given his long friendship with Epstein, his previous comments and incidents demonstrating how he seems to think about young girls, and the really odd way he and his administration are acting right now. But, could all be coincidence. Maybe he's just really bad at PR on this one specific issue.

If he keeps acting weirdly, and either doesn't release the files or releases something obviously bullshit (like the "declassified" folders a while back that were full of already known info) will that be enough to convince you something is up?

 

[The Catboy]

Imagine seeing the amount of pedos Trump is rubbing elbows with and not thinking something fucked up is/has happened

 

[DiscostewSM]

If there's any tangible evidence and not wishful thinking then yes, my mind might change. However, so far, there's nothing, but conspirists pushing fake garbage in an attempt to blacken Trump's name. I mean, for Christs sake, Trump kicked Epstein off of his property because the way he was treating younger females at Mar O' Lago.

"Don't mess with my girls! They're mine!"

Like that makes things soooo much better when we already have evidence of how he treats them in beauty pageants....

 

[Citizen_404]

Ghislaine may have to wait in line, Trump is already considering pardoning Diddy...the only obstacle seems to be some previous comments Sean made about Trump

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/02/trump-sean-diddy-combs-pardon

 

[Sir Tortoise]

Donald Trump says he considers Sean ‘“Diddy” Combs “sort of half-innocent” despite his criminal conviction in federal court in July – but the president called pardoning the music mogul “more difficult” because of past criticism.

Diddy - accused of sex trafficking adults, acquitted on the most serious charges but still guilty of crimes related to prostitution with an estimated 2 years in prison: probably not being pardoned, because he doesn't like Trump.
Ghislaine Maxwell - convicted on five counts of sex trafficking, plus one specifically for child sex trafficking, totalling god-knows how many victims. Was friends with Trump. Trump remains on the fence, very stubbornly so.

It's interesting which factors seem to make a difference in his judgement, isn't it?

In other news, Maxwell's deposition is being delayed while the Supreme Court review her case.

... Oh, god damnit, if they overturn the convictions that's technically not a pardon, that's better than a pardon but still screws my poll up. Okay, if I was so naive I thought that a pardon was the worst they could do, anything above and beyond that still counts

 

[savageNation]

"Don't mess with my girls! They're mine!"

Like that makes things soooo much better when we already have evidence of how he treats them in beauty pageants....

So you're saying somehow that Trump had sexual relations with underage girls and your evidence is how he treats beautiful adult women that he's attacked to? LOL. So you have nothing!

 

[DiscostewSM]

So you're saying somehow that Trump had sexual relations with underage girls and your evidence is how he treats beautiful adult women that he's attacked to? LOL. So you have nothing!

Like Mariah Billado who was 15 years old in the 1997 beauty pageant when Trump barged in while contestants were undressing? That kind of "beautiful adult women"?

 

[savageNation]

Like Mariah Billado who was 15 years old in the 1997 beauty pageant when Trump barged in while contestants were undressing? That kind of "beautiful adult women"?

So what! Did he barge in an molest her, no! Still nothing!!!

 

[Sir Tortoise]

So you're saying somehow that Trump had sexual relations with underage girls and your evidence is how he treats beautiful adult women that he's attacked to? LOL. So you have nothing!

I really can't fault you for assuming that the "beauty pageant" being referred to was for adults. That would be the normal explanation to jump to, still a lil questionable but whatever. It'd be a bit weird to run a beauty pageant for children, wouldn't it?

Anyway, Trump himself has admitted to walking in on the changing rooms, to see them naked, because he can apparently get away with that as the owner. When he said that, it isn't possible to confirm that he's directly talking about one of the underage pageants - so, sure, at best maybe he was just abusing his position to creep on adults for those, that's the best case explanation for his own words, that he's a creep but not a pedo.

I'll go backstage and everyone's getting dressed, and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it. You know, I'm inspecting because I want to make sure that everything is good. [...] You know, the dresses. 'Is everyone okay?' You know, they're standing there with no clothes. 'Is everybody okay?' And you see these incredible looking women, and so, I sort of get away with things like that.

At the same time, there are dozens of accusations that he did the exact same with children as young as 15.

Mariah Billado, the former Miss Vermont Teen USA, recalled, "I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, 'Oh my god, there's a man in here'." She then remembered Trump saying, "Don't worry, ladies, I've seen it all before."

I am not sure how you can refute this with "no", like, were you there? You can say you don't believe that Trump would do the thing he admitted to doing with children of ages above those he has talked in sexual terms about, and that the accusations are false if you want. But, "no"? Lmao.

 

[savageNation]

I really can't fault you for assuming that the "beauty pageant" being referred to was for adults. That would be the normal explanation to jump to, still a lil questionable but whatever.

Anyway, Trump has admitted to walking in on the changing rooms, to see them naked, because he can apparently get away with that as the owner. When he said that, it isn't possible to confirm that he's directly talking about one of the underage pageants - so, sure, at best maybe he was just abusing his position to creep on adults for those, that's the most credible explanation for his own words.

At the same time, there are dozens of accusations that he did the exact same with children as young as 15. I am not sure how you can refute this with "no", like, were you there? You can say you don't believe that Trump would do the thing he admitted to doing with children of ages above those he has talked in sexual terms about, and that the accusations are false if you want. But, "no"? Lmao.

It's not against norms to make comments relating to wanting sexual relations with adults and it's not against norms to claim that young girls are good looking. It is against the norms to hit on or have sexual relations with young girls and there is no proof Trump did this. However, if he did indeed walk in on 15 year olds while they were undressing that would be pretty perverted. I don't think that happened though. Taking the word of someone accusing Trump of doing something they can't prove he did isn't going to fly with people that want more than rumors to convict someone with.

 

[DiscostewSM]

So what! Did he barge in an molest her, no! Still nothing!!!

Since when does pedophilia require physical contact? The guy barges into a room of teens and adult women undressing, giving no warning, and you say "so what"? I dare you to go barging into a woman's bathroom and and say “Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.” The man does whatever he wants because he can, and his actions are a demonstration of his mindset.

But what are we to expect from someone who likely mashed the refresh button in an effort to defend Trump?

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It's not against norms to make comments relating to wanting sexual relations with adults and it's not against norms to claim that young girls are good looking. It is against the norms to hit on or have sexual relations with young girls and there is no proof Trump did this. However, if he did indeed walk in on 15 year olds while they were undressing that would be pretty perverted. I don't think that happened though. Taking the word of someone accusing Trump of doing something they can't prove he did isn't going to fly with people that want more than rumors to convict someone with.

I'd rather take the word of someone that has yet to be proven false in their accusations than one that has.

 

[savageNation]

Since when does pedophilia require physical contact? The guy barges into a room of teens and adult women undressing, giving no warning, and you say "so what"? I dare you to go barging into a woman's bathroom and and say “Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.” The man does whatever he wants because he can, and his actions are a demonstration of his mindset.

But what are we to expect from someone who likely mashed the refresh button in an effort to defend Trump?

No button mashing here, just paying attention to the notification of a new post. His actions were out of line when walking in on adult women changing, but not criminal. There's no real tangible evidence that he abused young girls - it's all innuendo, hearsay and rumors. It's a lot of upset people trying to tarnish the name of a great man. They are jealous of his net worth and can't fathom why they can't control him the way they try to control everyone else. The real crime here is all these people trying to string nothingness together to create an elaborate ruse in an attempt to attack a sitting President.

 

[Reualed]

We went from "there is files" to "we got all the files" to "The files are on the desk" to "the files don't exist" to "okay they exist, but why care?"

From the amount of flip flopping this admin is doing non stop trying to bury this, with all the countless other distractions, it would not surprise me that Trump would try pardoning the pedo. And if the files are released, I'm sure they'll be tampered with to remove Trump. We already know Trump specifically asked the FBI to flag every time his name is mentioned in it.