Stephen Colber Show cancelled after mocking a Trump bribe

[SeltzerMist]

Having an aggressive trade policy is fascism? Fascism was not really characterised by global trade on account of fascists being at war with, no hyperbole, the rest of the world. The U.S. is one of the biggest if not *the* biggest market on the planet, it is not only not surprising that the U.S. administration would demand preferential treatment, it’s surprising that it hasn’t up to this point.

How do you feel about Trump stating that migrants were eating pets?

 

[BlazeHeatnix]

Enforcing immigration law is not “a holocaust”, nobody told anyone to illegally cross the border. People are responsible for the consequences of their own decisions. I’m an immigrant myself, and I moved legally. If I were an illegal immigrant, I would expect that the danger of being deported to my country of origin was very real, whether it was war-torn or not. It’s not “nice”, but that’s how the cookie crumbles.

People are being deported to all kinds of countries other than where they're actually from, and they're going regardless of citizenship or green card status without due process or even allowing them to be represented in court. Some of them are native Americans and some are simply citizens that asked questions.

If you support that, and you support shit like "Alligator Alcatraz", then you are an authoritarian and don't deserve your position. And you're also an asshole.

Out of curiosity what if they aren't proved wrong and Obama is actually guilty of treason? What would be your reaction?

That's moot, but in that case, it would have to be based on something other than what the declassified documents say. And in all likelihood, since Trump has decided he holds more power than the courts, he would arrest Obama regardless of what they say.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

How do you feel about Trump stating that migrants were eating pets?

Oh dont worry, the usual wash is coming "just playing politics never meant that yada yada yada"

 

[Heavy01]

No, the rhetoric is, as anyone who actually knows even a little bit about fascism would know. Or even a little bit of history beyond Wikipedia or Chatgpt.

This is literally not the rhetoric of fascism. You are completely making up shit as you go. Most fascist takeovers happen as a direct result of communist intervention and a collapsing economy and society, see Perez Jimenez or Pinochet. None of those countries ever claimed to be the biggest power players in the world. The current socialist government in Venezuela also claims that they are a victim and everyone in global trade wants to sabotage them because they don't want to see socialism suceed, they also call us fascists by the way. So are they the fascist or?

 

[Dark_Ansem]

This is literally not the rhetoric of fascism. You are completely making up shit as you go.

Wrong again.

Most fascist takeovers happen as a direct result of communist intervention and a collapsing economy and society, see Perez Jimenez or Pinochet.

See Italy and Spain, which both displayed that very same rhetoric and were never under communist dictatorship. Or the US right now.

 

[Foxi4]

How do you feel about Trump stating that migrants were eating pets?

I don’t feel anything about it at all because I’m not Trump’s keeper. Since this thread isn’t about me and *is* about Colbert, I’ll try to refrain from further comments until we return to the actual topic of the discussion. While flattering since I am objectively funnier than Colbert, I am yet to be hired, or fired, by CBS.

 

[Heavy01]

and they're going regardless of citizenship or green card status without due process or even allowing them to be represented in court. Some of them are native Americans and some are simply citizens that asked questions.

Dang, we just making shit up at this point?

For the millionth time, having a green card DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN'T BE DEPORTED. It's so telling the people who don't know anything about the immigration process (like Foxi I am also an immigrant who came legally and I am fully aware of the process) and yet will feel the need to chime in on immigration issues without even understanding the basics.

If you commit a felony while having a green card it will be revoked and you will be deported. It has always worked like this, yes even when your precious Obama was in office. And that's how it should work.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Dang, we just making shit up at this point?

Dang, are you just lying through your teeth at this point?

 

[Heavy01]

Dang, are you just lying through your teeth at this point?

That's what you are doing though.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

That's what you are doing though.

I am sorry that your ignorance makes you mistake truth for lies. As I said, a dictionary would be wasted on you.

 

[Foxi4]

If you commit a felony while having a green card it will be revoked and you will be deported. It has always worked like this, yes even when your precious Obama was in office. And that's how it should work.

Obama was basically “deporter-in-chief” - say what you will about his other policies, but he sure knew how to deport illegal immigrants. Most of the stuff Trump gets accused of round the clock like “kids in cages” are in fact holdovers from that administration.

 

[Heavy01]

Wrong again.


See Italy and Spain, which both displayed that very same rhetoric and were never under communist dictatorship. Or the US right now.

Bro why do you keep making absolute claims and not elaborating at all. Wrong how?

Also Spain had a civil war where the communists were very much intending to take over, but thankfully they lost. Franco didn't just rise to power for no reason. So no, you are wrong. You also didn't address my point, the socialist government of Venezuela literally claims that we are out to get them (while also telling all their people how great of a job they are doing and how well everything is going for the revolution).

https://apnews.com/international-news-general-news-bc84a9fff4eb42cfa4154ba4e7b9b2ab

So I ask again, don't dodge, are they fascists? Because they are doing exactly what you claim we are doing.

The actual answer is no by the way, because that has nothing to do with fascism, I'm just curious how you would defend your own argument.

 

[Xzi]

"Trump is going down for SURE this time!" says man for the 237th time.

Oh I'm sure you'll still support him regardless, a lot of MAGAts are 100% irredeemable ghouls. It doesn't matter though, because if even a third of Republicans in government sour on Pedonald, his agenda will grind to a halt.

 

[Heavy01]

Oh I'm sure you'll still support him regardless, a lot of MAGAts are 100% irredeemable ghouls. It doesn't matter though, because if even a third of Republicans in government sour on Pedonald, his agenda will grind to a halt.

Hi I just thought I'd remind you that you thought there is no way Kamala was going to lose and polls saying otherwise were idiots and Trump won the popular vote.

Have a great day!!!

 

[Dark_Ansem]

So I ask again, don't dodge, are they fascists? Because they are doing exactly what you claim we are doing.

Did you even read that link?

Also Spain had a civil war where the communists were very much intending to take over, but thankfully they lost.

I see we are moving the goalposts again.

 

[Heavy01]

Why did you not reply to my quesiton?

Did you even read that link?



I see we are moving the goalposts again.

Why do you keep ignoring my question? Socialist Venezuelan government claims they are constantly sabotaged from their economy to their infrastructure by the US and it's NATO lackeys and nothing is ever their fault.



So I ask you for the third time, are they fascists? Why are they using something "straight out of the fascist playbook" like you say? If the US had a massive power outage and Trump blamed some other country you would be the first to cry "THATS A FASCISM, THAT'S A HECKING FASCISM!!!", so why doesn't it apply here?

 

[SeltzerMist]

"but the communists!!!"

In a topic about a show cancellation lmao

 

[Foxi4]

"but the communists!!!"

In a topic about a show cancellation lmao

Correct. We should get back to the topic, and limit the scope of our inquiries to the show itself, the statements made by the parties involved (Colbert, CBS, Paramount), the allegations raised in those statements and Late Night more broadly. We seem to be talking about everything *except* that, from child molestation to communism in Spain. At this rate the thread will become useless due to lack of substance. I urged all participants to get back on-topic and I’ll do it again. That *doesn’t* mean you shouldn’t be talking about Trump or the current admin, but try to limit yourselves to how that relates to the subject as opposed to getting lost in the sauce. At some point we have to draw a line in the sand and let cooler heads prevail.

 

[Heavy01]

Correct. We should get back to the topic, and limit the scope of our inquiries to the show itself, the statements made by the parties involved (Colbert, CBS, Paramount), the allegations raised in those statements and Late Night more broadly. We seem to be talking about everything *except* that, from child molestation to communism in Spain. At this rate the thread will become useless due to lack of substance. I urged all participants to get back on-topic and I’ll do it again. That *doesn’t* mean you shouldn’t be talking about Trump or the current admin, but try to limit yourselves to how that relates to the subject as opposed to getting lost in the sauce. At some point we have to draw a line in the sand and let cooler heads prevail.

That's hard to do because these people claim everything is fascism, if you don't challenge them they get away with it. Almost all topics will go down this path because every topic has some variation of "something that has nothing to do with fascism is fascism", and challenging those claims will inevitably derail the topic. The alternative is just ignoring it at which point it becomes a circlejerk of "so true sis we are surviving fascism" over and over.

Also the person you are replying to constantly derails topics with off topic one liner replies that have nothing to do with the topic (and it's 99% of the time just a personal attack), I blocked him for that reason.

 

[SeltzerMist]

That's hard to do because these people claim everything is fascism, if you don't challenge them they get away with it. Almost all topics will go down this path because every topic has some variation of "something that has nothing to do with fascism is fascism", and challenging those claims will inevitably derail the topic. The alternative is just ignoring it at which point it becomes a circlejerk of "so true sis we are surviving fascism" over and over.

Also the person you are replying to constantly derails topics with off topic one liner replies that have nothing to do with the topic (and it's 99% of the time just a personal attack), I blocked him for that reason.

No, you in particular continue to demonstrate you don't understand the meaning of the word