Stephen Colber Show cancelled after mocking a Trump bribe

[BlazeHeatnix]

Great point. While they tinfoil hat about Trump for the 100th time, meanwhile in reality Hussein Obama has ACTUALLY found to have committed treason.

January 6th was actual treason. The Obama thing is a bunch of "alternative facts" bullshit we can actually prove is incorrect.

If the president did whatever a bunch of loud people on the Internet told him to do, I’d point that out as something to worry about. This is basic American civics, they cover it with children, grown adults are supposed to know and understand this already.

Last I checked, the president is supposed to serve the people's interests, not the other way around. There were millions of Americans asking for affordable housing and a simple path to citizenship. Trump responded with a holocaust.

I want him to give precisely zero consideration to what “the base” has to say because “the base” is not the head executive - he is. He was elected to do a job and I want him to do it, not bother with appeasing loudmouths on the Internet for meaningless updoots.

ALSO last I checked, coded language and dog whistles are against the rules too.

He’s referring to the recent CIA and ODNI publications regarding the 2016 Russian election interference probe which was launched even though Russia’s capabilities to influence the election were assessed as minimal at best by the intelligence community, pointing at the possibility that it was politically motivated. The whole thing appears to have been launched at the behest of the White House and against expert recommendations.

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/21/nx-s1-5475171/trump-gabbard-russia-2016-election

Oh, you mean the bullshit they threw out just to try and distract from the Epstein list? Even though a bipartisan consensus in 2020 said that Russia had indeed participated in election interference in 2016 and that there was no evidence of Obama having done anything. And this was during Trump's presidency.

Almost none of the shit Tulsi asserted about Obama is actually true or even said anywhere in the documents that were released. Tulsi would have you believe that Obama literally tried to orchestrate a Trump assassination attempt. We know that this is factually false, but I'm sure you won't believe what the "deep state" and the "woke cuck libs" say anyway.

They certainly do. I already humoured a weird discussion about Cosby on the proviso that it has ended and will not be continued. Let’s stick to the topic at hand, and if we’re going to stray for a short while, let’s make sure there’s at least some connection to the subject. There’s no point in treading through weeds, it’s easy enough to make a dedicated thread.

Sure is convenient that you can arbitrarily decide when off-topic discussion is ok or not, isn't it? You're just going to get the last word in and then assert your authority as moderator to shut down any retort.

 

[Foxi4]

Last I checked, the president is supposed to serve the people's interests, not the other way around. There were millions of Americans asking for affordable housing and a simple path to citizenship. Trump responded with a holocaust.

Hyperbolic moral panic that devalues the word “Holocaust”. Not even worth addressing.

ALSO last I checked, coded language and dog whistles are against the rules too.

What coded language? Do you not know what “base” means? His core supporters. It’s a common term. “Updoots” is a funny way to say upvotes/likes. He wasn’t elected by a bunch of loudmouths on the Internet, he was elected by millions of people to do a job, which is what he’s doing.

Oh, you mean the bullshit they threw out just to try and distract from the Epstein list? Even though a bipartisan consensus in 2020 said that Russia had indeed participated in election interference in 2016 and that there was no evidence of Obama having done anything. And this was during Trump's presidency.

Unless Obama owned a secret time machine that we don’t know about, he couldn’t have known that ahead of time and did go against the consensus of U.S. intelligence. A “good” outcome is not a justification for wrong motivation, if you could even call the outcome good to begin with.

Almost none of the shit Tulsi asserted about Obama is actually true or even said anywhere in the documents that were released. Tulsi would have you believe that Obama literally tried to orchestrate a Trump assassination attempt.

We know that this is factually false, but I'm sure you won't believe what the "deep state" and the "woke cuck libs" say anyway.

Language. If you can’t be respectful, we don’t have to have a conversation.

Sure is convenient that you can arbitrarily decide when off-topic discussion is ok or not, isn't it? You're just going to get the last word in and then assert your authority as moderator to shut down any retort.

If you ever forget what a thread is about, there’s a neat Internet trick you can do. Scroll up and read the title, then compare it to what you were about to talk about. Works every time. Anything beyond that is within my prerogative, as well as the prerogative of other staff. If you believe a mistake was made, you’re welcome to escalate to a supervisor.

 

[BlazeHeatnix]

Hyperbolic moral panic that devalues the word “Holocaust”. Not even worth addressing.

Holocaust. Noun. A thorough destruction involving extensive loss of life.

I'd say sending hundreds of thousands of people to either die in war-torn nations or die homeless and starving by completely removing their ability to live fits that word fine. Although, you're right, I guess technically "genocide" would be a better word. After all, we wouldn't want to imply Trump is doing something as monstrous as a holocaust! Just genocide!

Unless Obama owned a secret time machine that we don’t know about, he couldn’t have known that ahead of time and did go against the consensus of U.S. intelligence. A “good” outcome is not a justification for wrong motivation, if you could even call the outcome good to begin with.

Except he didn't. The FBI did, and the courts were fully aware of it. Just because Trump (or rather, his advisors) were being monitored does not mean that it was illegal or that the Obama administration went behind U.S. intelligence backs (because, uh...the FBI is U.S. intelligence). You only think it's a problem because you see it as a moral slight against Trump. Whether the outcome is "good" or the motivation is "wrong" is completely irrelevant here. The president acted fully within his authority and did not alter the election at all. And as it turns out, he had completely justifiable cause considering there was legitimate evidence Trump was colluding with the Russians.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Hyperbolic moral panic that devalues the word “Holocaust”. Not even worth addressing.

To be fair, holocaust with a non-capital H may just very well mean "massacre" figuratively, you know, like the dictionary and even wikipedia page say. I'm not sure why you felt the need to use the capitalised version of the word. Or rather, I have an inkling about why.

 

[SeltzerMist]

Hyperbolic moral panic that devalues the word “Holocaust”. Not even worth addressing.

No, you don't get tht benefit of the doubt on this and in hindsight your reaction to the intolerance paradox makes sense given what we all know about your beliefs now.

To be fair, holocaust with a non-capital H may just very well mean "massacre", you know, like the dictionary and even wikipedia page say. I'm not sure why you felt the need to use the capitalised version of the word.

They have to reconcile their beliefs and support against this, therefore we see a combination of lashing out and cognitive dissonance with this particular MAGA.

 

[Foxi4]

To be fair, holocaust with a non-capital H may just very well mean "massacre", you know, like the dictionary and even wikipedia page say. I'm not sure why you felt the need to use the capitalised version of the word.

We all know which holocaust comes to mind when you use the term. My phone even autocorrects it to a capital, that’s how ubiquitous the meaning is. If you’re talking about any other holocaust, you better be damn sure the description applies and you specify what you mean because the meaning is inextricably connected with the event.

No, you don't get tht benefit of the doubt on this and in hindsight your reaction to the intolerance paradox makes sense given what we all know about your beliefs now.

The Holocaust happened on my doorstep. I was born a bike ride away from the nearest death camp. This accusation is goofy at best.

 

[SeltzerMist]

The Holocaust happened on my doorstep. I was born a bike ride away from the nearest death camp. This accusation is goofy at best.

It doesn't excuse your continuing downplaying and outright hand waiving of the current behavior, actions and rhetoric of the modern fascist movements (which you also do the above listed)

"It's not exactly the same as what they did in the 1940s" is a flimsy response. You're not fooling anyone here.

 

[Hanafuda]

The Obama thing is a bunch of "alternative facts" bullshit we can actually prove is incorrect.

That Snopes is based on 5 year old info. Other documents were recently declassified, and a criminal referral has been submitted to the DOJ. Read the news.

 

[BlazeHeatnix]

That Snopes is based on 5 year old info. Other documents were recently declassified, and a criminal referral has been submitted to the DOJ. Read the news.

The declassified documents don't actually give any new evidence tying Obama to treason or creating a false narrative. If you actually read them, absolutely nothing that Tulsi and Trump assert in their """findings""" is actually there. Nothing in the released documents contradicts anything we already knew from 2020.

The administration is hoping that the media will be so focused on this red herring and any criminal investigations into Obama (which will inevitably be proven wrong) that it will take attention away from the Epstein files. That's literally all this is. The same "BUT HER EMAILS" shit they've been doing since day one.

 

[Foxi4]

It doesn't excuse your continuing downplaying and outright hand waiving of the current behavior, actions and rhetoric of the modern fascist movements (which you also do the above listed)

"It's not exactly the same as what they did in the 1940s" is a flimsy response. You're not fooling anyone here.

Well yes, I expect fascist to act like fascist and Nazis to act like Nazis. If I see the term used inappropriately, I point that out. If this makes me a bad guy then that’s fine, other people’s estimation of my character was never high on my list of priorities, especially if they’re random Internet strangers. I was unaware that the simple expectation of “words mean things” was controversial, but here we are. If you’re not okay with basic diversity of thought then I don’t know what to tell you. This is *still* a thread about CBS sacking Colbert so yes, I expect that we get back to that at some point after we’re done with the conspiracy theories.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

I expect fascist to act like fascist

The Trump administration is acting like a fascist government.

If I see the term used inappropriately

...It's not?

 

[Foxi4]

...It's not?

Enforcing immigration law is not “a holocaust”, nobody told anyone to illegally cross the border. People are responsible for the consequences of their own decisions. I’m an immigrant myself, and I moved legally. If I were an illegal immigrant, I would expect that the danger of being deported to my country of origin was very real, whether it was war-torn or not. It’s not “nice”, but that’s how the cookie crumbles.

 

[SeltzerMist]

Ah, cherry picking

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Enforcing immigration law is not “a holocaust”, nobody told anyone to illegally cross the border. People are responsible for the consequences of their own decisions. I’m an immigrant myself, and I moved legally. If I were an illegal immigrant, I would expect that the danger of being deported to my country of origin was very real, whether it was war-torn or not. It’s not “nice”, but that’s how the cookie crumbles.

Please, they're doing a myriad of other things which are straight out of the fascist playbook. Such as the crazy rhetoric about the US somehow being both the biggest power player in the world while simultaneously a victim of literally everyone else in global trade (they're not).

 

[Heavy01]

The Trump administration is acting like a fascist government.


...It's not?

This might be a shocking revelation to you, but authoritarianism =/= fascism.

All communist/socialist governments are authoritarian, authoritarianism isn't inherent to fascism.

And no, the Trump administration has -literally- nothing to do with fascism. Enforcing laws isn't fascism. Trump had almost everything he did during his first 6 months challenged by courts, that is the literal opposite of fascism.

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Please, they're doing a myriad of other things which are straight out of the fascist playbook. Such as the crazy rhetoric about the US somehow being both the biggest power player in the world while simultaneously a victim of literally everyone else in global trade (they're not).

This has also nothing to do with fascism. Can we please get a dictionary to these people? Everything you don't agree with isn't fascism.

 

[SeltzerMist]

Alligator Alcatraz and sending people to El Salvador is neither a fascist behavior nor is it an overreaction. And it's totally fine that taxpayer finding is going towards this instead of fixing our infrastructure

 

[Dark_Ansem]

This has also nothing to do with fascism. Can we please get a dictionary to these people? Everything you don't agree with isn't fascism.

You are incorrect. But do I want to bother explaining why?

And no, the Trump administration has -literally- nothing to do with fascism.

Wrong again.

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Can we please get a dictionary to these people? Everything you don't agree with isn't fascism.

A dictionary on you would be wasted.

 

[Heavy01]

The declassified documents don't actually give any new evidence tying Obama to treason or creating a false narrative. If you actually read them, absolutely nothing that Tulsi and Trump assert in their """findings""" is actually there. Nothing in the released documents contradicts anything we already knew from 2020.

The administration is hoping that the media will be so focused on this red herring and any criminal investigations into Obama (which will inevitably be proven wrong) that it will take attention away from the Epstein files. That's literally all this is. The same "BUT HER EMAILS" shit they've been doing since day one.

Out of curiosity what if they aren't proved wrong and Obama is actually guilty of treason? What would be your reaction?

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You are incorrect. But do I want to bother explaining why?



Wrong again.

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A dictionary on you would be wasted.

Wow a post that literally says nothing, congrats.

 

[Foxi4]

Please, they're doing a myriad of other things which are straight out of the fascist playbook. Such as the crazy rhetoric about the US somehow being both the biggest power player in the world while simultaneously a victim of literally everyone else in global trade (they're not).

Having an aggressive trade policy is fascism? Fascism was not really characterised by global trade on account of fascists being at war with, no hyperbole, the rest of the world. The U.S. is one of the biggest if not *the* biggest market on the planet, it is not only not surprising that the U.S. administration would demand preferential treatment, it’s surprising that it hasn’t up to this point.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Having an aggressive trade policy is fascism? Fascism was not really characterised by global trade on account of fascists being at war with, no hyperbole, the rest of the world. The U.S. is one of the biggest if not *the* biggest market on the planet, it is not only not surprising that the U.S. administration would demand preferential treatment, it’s surprising that it hasn’t up to this point

No, the rhetoric is, as anyone who actually knows even a little bit about fascism would know. Or even a little bit of history beyond Wikipedia or Chatgpt.