Billy Mitchell is no newcomer to lawsuits, having already been to court regarding the legitimacy of his Donkey Kong world records. That lawsuit took place over the course of around five years, with the matter settled privately, and Mitchell's high scores being reinstated. Now, a second legal matter has concluded, once more in Mitchell's favor.

YouTube content creator Karl Jobst has called out Mitchell on a handful of occasions, claiming that the latter's records were cheated and illegitimate. Jobst also made a YouTube video that claimed following yet another Mitchell-related lawsuit against content creator Apollo Legend, Legend took his own life as a direct result of owing too much in debt to Mitchell.

Jobst: He also sued YouTuber Apollo Legend for $1,000,000. I haven’t spoken about this publicly but this lawsuit ultimately ended with Apollo giving in and settling with Mitchell. He was forced to remove all his videos about Mitchell’s cheating and paid him a large sum of money. This left him deeply in debt, which required him to find extra work, but with his ongoing health issues this was all too much of a burden and he ultimately took his own life. Not that Billy Mitchell would ever care, though. In fact, when Billy Mitchell thought Apollo died earlier he expressed joy at the thought. The lawsuit against Apollo was just as frivolous as the rest and Apollo definitely would have won in court, but again he was extremely ill and couldn’t handle the ongoing stress.

Mitchell filed a defamation case against Jobst, with his lawyers claiming Jobst's statements to be harmful to his reputation. KC Barlow, a Queensland, Australia judge proceeding over the case, found that while Mitchell has a negative reputation amongst the community as both a cheater and to frequently engage in suing parties for defamation, Jobst's videos on Mitchell were untrue. The defense team for Mitchell provided evidence that Apollo Legend never had to pay Mitchell any amount of money after the lawsuit--only if he made further content about Mitchell, which he never did--so Jobst's statements were incorrect and damaging to Mitchell.

Barlow: For the reasons below, I have made the following findings a) Mr Jobst defamed Mr Mitchell by making all the imputations that Mr Mitchell alleged;(b) Mr Mitchell has suffered significant personal and reputational harm as a consequence;(c) although he had the previous reputations alleged by Mr Jobst, and the defamatory video raised other substantially true contextual imputations about him, Mr Mitchell suffered substantially more personal and reputational harm as a consequence of Mr Jobst’s imputations about which Mr Mitchell complains;(d) Mr Jobst’s conduct since the first publication of the video, including during this proceeding, has been aggravating and has caused additional personal hurt and reputational damage to Mr Mitchell.[20] I therefore award Mr Mitchell $300,000 in general damages for non-economic loss and $50,000 in aggravated damages, plus interest on those sums at 3% per annum since the first publication on 21 May 2021. Subject to any submissions to the contrary, Mr Jobst should pay Mr Mitchell’s costs of this proceeding.

The judge ruled in favor of Mitchell, stating that Jobst now owes the former around AU$384,000 ($241,000) in damages, legal fees, and interest. Jobst had previously started a GoFundMe account to help pay for the legal case, with some of his backers reportedly claiming that Jobst misled his fans. A subset of his community say that Jobst asked for money, claiming that the lawsuit was due to Mitchell suing Jobst over cheating claims.

Jobst took to X to defend himself, after the ruling. Here, Jobst claims that he never misled his audience, though he could have been more transparent regarding the matter. He also states that his comments on Apollo Legend were a result of "relying on incorrect information from multiple sources." According to Jobst, he owes "well over 600k" in legal fees.

 

[DeadSkullzJr]

I have watched videos from Karl Jobst about this guy, every time I did though something felt kind of off. When the whole thing was set to go to court, I kind of questioned everything at that point onwards. I won't lie, I tend to put stuff like this on the back burner and leave it there, because quite frankly, I'm preoccupied with other interesting things that I would rather dispense my time with. I'm honestly not surprised by this, this whole thing felt off as it was, very.... incomplete, lack of transparency I guess.

 

[AngryCinnabon]

I've learned to just laugh at this shit, YouTube drama is hilarious at this point. Haven't trusted anything i saw about drama since that whole Pro-Jared cancel shitshow.

On topic though, both parties suck here, lying to no end...Billy's still the bigger evil and I will continue to just laugh at this chicanery.

 

[ZeroT21]

So picking a losing fight over a bit of drama, typical YT stuff .Life lessons hit the hardest

 

[whitesword7]

I've learned to just laugh at this shit, YouTube drama is hilarious at this point. Haven't trusted anything i saw about drama since that whole Pro-Jared cancel shitshow.

On topic though, both parties suck here, lying to no end...Billy's still the bigger evil and I will continue to just laugh at this chicanery.

this time it actually got settled in court, so its not simply a youtube drama anymore

Karl Jobst is basically over, when your entire job is “exposing” someone’s mistake then your own mistake won’t be tolerated too

 

[AngryCinnabon]

this time it actually got settled in court, so its not simply a youtube drama anymore

Karl Jobst is basically over, when your entire job is “exposing” someone’s mistake then your own mistake won’t be tolerated too

You do have a point there, it's beyond youtube drama now, my bad for being a dum-dum!

 

[TheZander]

I remember when Billy was a member here. I said fuck you Billy gtfo here. I hate Billy Mitchell

 

[NeSchn]

This is a certified bruh sound effect 2 moment for sure

 

[ZeroFX]

youtuber and speedrunner 2 types of beings i like seeing getting rekt, so i liked the outcome.

 

[Lenks]

Very sad news and for all the wrong reasons... Not only sleazy Billy Mitchell won, but Karl effectively killed his career totally misrepresenting the nature of the case to it's general fanbase that don't know all the nooks and crannies and thinking that is a gaming case... This is also putting a bad rep on all of his other big things like the Completionist drama. I hope his 9 to 5 pays well.

 

[ChiefReginod]

I don't have a dog in this fight but I actually stopped watching Karl Jobst's videos a year or two back because I felt they were getting too negative. I liked his Goldeneye speedrun videos. Some of the exposes just felt a little too personal for public consumption. I really hate that youtube incentivizes publicizing personal disputes like this.

 

[linuxares]

Huh... Here I thought the case was about Billy being labeled as a cheater, that's the defamation lawsuit were about. Apparently it was an actual justifiable lawsuit about being blamed for someone's death? TIL

 

[SecureBoot]

I don't have a dog in this fight but I actually stopped watching Karl Jobst's videos a year or two back because I felt they were getting too negative. I liked his Goldeneye speedrun videos. Some of the exposes just felt a little too personal for public consumption. I really hate that youtube incentivizes publicizing personal disputes like this.

This summarize where I was out exactly. I liked the speed running stuff, then it became all about the drama and I bailed. It was when he started calling actual lawyers frauds when I blocked him entirely from my feed

 

[Dark_Ansem]

I find it insane that people that have basically no value for society have that much money to toss around for such stupid matters.

 

[Adran_Marit]

Huh... Here I thought the case was about Billy being labeled as a cheater, that's the defamation lawsuit were about. Apparently it was an actual justifiable lawsuit about being blamed for someone's death? TIL

Yup, and the defense touched very little on that. Do recall I was present for the last few days of trial and the judgement.

Karl's attitude definitely didn't do him any favors in the judges eyes, but alas, now we wait.

 

[CeeDee]

Crazy how it took this for more people to realize Karl Jobst maybe isn't the greatest dude and shouldn't have been put on the pedestal he's been on for so long.

 

[DuoForce]

Dude looks like the giant head from regular show

 

[tech3475]

TBH I'm more surprised by the comments saying they didn't know what the lawsuit was actually about, but then I ended up watching some courtroom summaries that appeared on my YT feed back when it happened where it was stated what the lawsuit was about, I thought something like that would have spread more.

If Australian law is anything like UK law I was expecting the loss, ironically being sued in the US might have been better for Karl.

That said, it still felt like a bit of an excuse to sue on BM's part, although legitimate compared to say the CN lawsuit.

 

[Axido]

What am I waking up to here?

To be honest, I'm not surprised at all. The first two or three of his videos about Mitchell I found quite interesting, not gonna lie. But over time, his tone got more aggressive, aka the frequency of words like "cheater", "lyer" or "fraud" became so high that the lack of respect became very apparent to me. Not even talking about the thumbnails with their very one-sided lines. If you want to inform, you can do this in a much more civil way. And I personally don't like people who feel the need to use insults in order to inflate their points, especially if those may be valid points on the surface. That's when I realized what an unlikeable person Karl Jobst is and flushed him out of my YouTube feed about a year ago after having seen more than enough videos that had raised my suspicion.

And for the record, this is not saying that I'm siding with normal-sized Peter Dinklage. Heck, for all I care those two can continue that drama without me noticing ever again. I guess I'm going with the no-to-both option, which I found to be the best choice in lots of cases, like Apple vs. Microsoft, Sony vs. Microsoft and Google vs. Microsoft.

 

[SDA]

Man, this is so jacked up that I don't even know who to side with anymore.

 

[HarveyHouston]

Two wrongs don't make a right. It doesn't matter if Jobst was outright lying; a lawsuit was not needed. Both men were wrong to do what they did.