Misc So, is the left wing good or not?

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Trump wants to prison people who burn the American flag, so STFU

So let people break federal laws go free, why not send the flag burners to another country if they hate their country so much in a country where the majority loves it. No you want chaos.

It was Trump's buddy Putin who started it
Putin is not Trumps buddy, wasn't the left media made the lie that Trump is associated with Russia which was proven a total lie, typical left, keep lying and defaming.
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Care to give an actual example? Biden hasn't attacked the first amendment once throughout his administration AFAIK, while Trump's favorite targets over the last four years have been both birthright citizenship and freedom of the press. He even went so far as to say that the entire constitution should be "terminated" in 2023.
Umm when Elon got twitter he provided files showing that Biden administration wanting to limit speech, ban what they deem right social media accounts and put pressure on social media accounts to censor anything they said.... Plenty of examples there
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Support for Florida is still going on, with a progress report at least since Nov 8th showing the Biden administration continuing there efforts. Kind of a weird thing for you to say considering Trump during his first term did not send aid to California during the wildfires because they didn't not support him.
That is baseless plus the person about not providing support was a leaked message in complete black and white and is fired.
We've got Republicans attempting to assassinate Trump, Trump suggesting injection of disinfectants for Covid, and even told his nephew Fred that disabled people like his son should just die. Last I checked, the "death" of family members by the left was with their relationship, because those people were poisoned. Mentally. Voting for the guy who makes claims like China paying for tariffs when we even have freaking Walmart setting the record straight. Walmart of all businesses.....


This about Jan 6th? Now why would a left-wing anti-fascist, anti-racist political movement want to obstruct the certifying of the man on their side? And we have Trump saying he wants to pardon those people who were arrested because he considers them patriots. Trump saying left-wing extremists are patriots? Yeah, that doesn't fly with anyone.

Honestly, much of what you said is projection.
Yes assinations, where the FBI had censored the social media regarding their accounts showing extreme leftist ideology and Jan 6th used CIA and FBI agents to telling people to go to the capital and tried convincing people to go do it.
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Remind me again which side stormed our capitol, tried to overthrow an election, killed and beat several cops, trashed the white house, and even tried to abduct and kill people. I guess that was just a "Peaceful misunderstanding" as was the noose they wanted to hang the VP at the time with was as well.

Remind me the people who held part of the cities, burned police stations and police training grounds, who started fires. Started a movement that resulted in raiding and robbing bussiness tro the point bussiness had to board up their windows. Who destoryed paintings and block traffic where person died as emergiency services couldn't get to them over usage of fuel.
 
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Nothing is totally good nor totally bad, so both left and right wings have good and bad ideas.
The real problem of the "left" wing is that is has abandoned the real world, it cannot understand the people's problem anymore. The "left" wing used to be a worker class defender, now it's a radical chic minority who loves to be adored, who believe they are the only smart people and that anyone who thinks different from them are "right wing" and ignorant.
The nowadays "left" wing is more "right" (because the "left" loves capitalism and unruled economy) than the parties we call "right" wing
 
First off, it's "anecdotal".

Second, you say this, despite these being actual numbers reported by police stations across the state, which is the exact opposite of anecdotal. Though not surprising because you say this earlier in the sentence.

Which is actually anecdotal, but maybe you didn't know that considering how you absolutely butchered the spelling so let me help you with your ignorance so you don't look like a fool in the future.

an·ec·do·tal
/ˌanəkˈdōd(ə)l/

(of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because it is based on personal accounts rather than facts or research.
Sorry it was the middle of the night, typical to find anything no matter how small to attack me like how you will go through the persons account see any previous m,essage they have said as a weapon for arguement. Like how shouting RACIST or TRANSPHOBIC to put fear to control the opponent but people have wised up your tactics to try to frighten and weaken your opponent to submission. Funny I know I spelt it wrong and it was the middle of the night and didn't care and I thought leave it as at trap as I knew you will use anything as weapon.

Man using a spelling mistake as a weapon and an actual discussion, wow you must be infantile because it is like I am talking to an infant.
Thanks to dustborn your tactics now an open book, plus Transphobic is dumb when it essentially means fear of Trans, and my Trans friends are so agoinst the left and their ideology and support Trump. Even my gay and lesbian friends too. Why they hate the fact the push to Trans childern and pushing books on fetishes to children below the age of 10 about not go past the book unless you are older but if you flick though you get disscussions and imagery to such dicks and eating the partners poop. Super creepy to defend that.

That and the fact parts of LGBTQ+ communtiy, they want to add MAPS to the spectrum and keep pushing to normalise it. Please provide an arguement to normailise pedos and pedo idealisation. Especitally when the push to involve children to such bad books, push to choose their own gender, sexuality and choose to have surgery.... Please tell me there is a segment of fetishism there and push children into areas that should not have been pushed into.

I mean any discussing of this gets you called Transphobic, Anti LGBTQ+, and harm to LGBTQ+ so on but it has led to so many hurt to children as some were manipulated and now they can't fully detransition as they have been mutilated and require treatments for years or their rest of their lives and lots who are regretting that they are unable to have children.

Why push to cause so much harm to childre? Please tell me. Well people kept asking and hated the left arrested them, took their children away, videos on scial media hidden or deleted and been called terrorists. Please tell me when you ask about actual problems like this, why cause harm and not discuss about it.

Well I have proven here the left will weponise anything to win the arguement, imagine with power what they would to me... No need to image when so many governments, mayorsm, district attorneys and everything connected to Democrats are finaly coming to the light and people now know to not be afraid, seeing through the lies and more and more evidence is coming up of their corruption.
 
Nothing is totally good nor totally bad, so both left and right wings have good and bad ideas.
The real problem of the "left" wing is that is has abandoned the real world, it cannot understand the people's problem anymore. The "left" wing used to be a worker class defender, now it's a radical chic minority who loves to be adored, who believe they are the only smart people and that anyone who thinks different from them are "right wing" and ignorant.
The nowadays "left" wing is more "right" (because the "left" loves capitalism and unruled economy) than the parties we call "right" wing
There's some truth to this, but you make some weirdly wrong assumptions as well.

What I've seen in the run-up to the election is that the rightwing people (at least on this forum) simply aren't smart enough to convince anyone. I don't want to believe that the USA contains of millions of dumbasses, but if it isn't...why can't anyone properly illustrate why going full protectionism is somehow good for the economy? Or what the actual benefit of xenophobia is? Yes, I've mocked people for voting only for Trump because "he's not Harris", but that's pretty much the gist of why they voted for him.

Do democrats want to be adored? Erm...probably? At least enough to get votes, I presume. That's no different from republicans or any other political party I know.

Do they think anyone not them is rightwing/ignorant? Certainly not. Sanders and AOC are much more progressive than democrats and I've yet to see the first accusation. And as a socialist, I've not been attacked from being ignorant or rightwing either.

Yes, democrats were (and still are) fervent supporters of capitalism, and I've not heard them say much or anything about reducing the impact of its disadvantages.
But "the parties we call rightwing" (meaning: republicans) haven't shifted to the left in any way, shape or form. I can argue the contrary if you want, but I'm genuinely curious why you think it does.
 
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Is Wicked Witch of the West good or bad?

If Madame Morrible, the Dean of Sorcery at Shiz University said so it must be so?

Glinda the Good is good as it is part of her name right?

Let's watch Trump 2.0 before we decide who is good and who is bad.
 
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Since I the left wing is in favor of people's rights it should be good, but most if not all countries that have left wing governments (such as most of latin america) are in a poor state while countries with right wing governments are in a better state in comparison despite the fact that people hate the right wing and im now confused.
I think there are good arguments for both "wings". The issue is that if either get their way you lose the good parts of either, whether it's the individualism and innovation of strong capitalism or the individual protection and empowerment of leftism.

Right wing leads to authoritarian people getting more than the "little folks" and left wing represses everybody so that nobody "races ahead". I come from the most highest taxed country in europe. We have great welfare but the effect of socialism is definitely contributing to our saying that "nobody should think they're anything special." That's a saying that's been part of our culture since before I was born, and I felt it a lot in school when any sort of egotism and aspirationalism was beaten down by sarcasm.

It's a system where the most fragile people almost become the leader of the thoughts, and it's similar to what's been seen around especially in the US political sphere lately with those they labeled "marxists".

A total share is only for people who benefit from sharing -- that is, people who can assert themselves in a group, and who thrive in group-efforts, but groups always contain people who are less good at being part of a group. I'm one of those, despite being able to excell well enough at my own pace, and that's why I often struggle to fully sympathize with the puritan liberalism you see so much on the internet these days.
 
He didn't show anything. He just gave his personally definition, which is not the same as the scientific consensus. Once again proving my point that "left" and "right" having different meanings to different people.
His "personally definition" just so happen to be the general concensus. That isn't a coincidence but proof he knows what he's talking about.
But I gotta say I like your style: you're flat out using your ignorance as proof of your point. Like...wow. Who did you think you were going to convince here?
 
What is even the point of this thread? Left and right completely changes relative to where you are. For example, no US party would be considered "left" in my country.
 
His "personally definition" just so happen to be the general concensus. That isn't a coincidence but proof he knows what he's talking about.
But I gotta say I like your style: you're flat out using your ignorance as proof of your point. Like...wow. Who did you think you were going to convince here?
Ha, nice try. I wasn't talking about the general consensus, I was talking about the scientific consensus. Which I am completely aware is not the same thing. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I already said was just answering OP's question. Stop being such an obvious troll, and leave me alone already.
 
Crickets... Crickets... So many defenders of the left but silence when pushed with the hard questions, typical, they will try to manipulate you but give questions regarding their community and they go silent and choose not to have discussions with only people in their echo chamber
 
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Crickets... Crickets... So many defenders of the left but silence when pushed with the hard questions, typical, they will try to manipulate you but give questions regarding their community and they go silent and choose not to have discussions with only people in their echo chamber
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Maybe just nobody wants to talk to you, you should be used to that by now. Try leaving your basement, go upstairs and talk to mommy.
 
I think trying to establish either side of politics as 'good' is a fool's game. Even extremes of right and left meet certain people's needs, else they wouldn't manage to take off in the first place. What is 'good'? A government that meets more than half of the people's needs, or all of the people's needs? One that listens to popular opinion or disregards it and carves a path for people to follow instead?
 
Crickets... Crickets... So many defenders of the left but silence when pushed with the hard questions, typical, they will try to manipulate you but give questions regarding their community and they go silent and choose not to have discussions with only people in their echo chamber
I see. You're just choosing to ignore all the responses that debunked all of your claims and continue on.

This is what cognitive dissonance (specifically TDS) is
 
The left wing is bad. Trump is sending soldiers door to door to get rid of the radical lefts open borders and enforce American citizenship by force. Give the soldiers a salute when they are at your door.
Lay off the drugs, and go outside and play. Be home by dark, mommy will have dinner ready for you.
 
The left wing is more incompetent than bad. The right wing is overtly chaotic evil. The left wing is like...lawful stupid. Or neutral stupid. It's like that guy with the thing in Space Balls said, "Evil will win because good is dumb." I know, the movie gets over-referenced, so sorry for that.
 
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