January 6th hearings

[titan_tim]

While it's very interesting to keep up to date with the ongoing and constant barrage of information about this whole cluster f---, in the end all we can do is sit back, and enjoy the ride until the conclusion. The Jan 6th committee has passed on their evidence and thousands of testimonies to the DOJ, and now all we can do is see if the DOJ and the special council follows through with where the evidence points.

Everyone's online opinions on the matter are of zero weight, as we're not constitutional lawyers, and are more than likely horribly biased.

I personally hope that there's a huge arrest before Christmas, to make my family gathering all the more joyous. But I'm one of those aforementioned biased people who want people held accountable for crimes. If you want to come out and say "But but but Hunter!!!", then I'll agree with that too. If there's a smoking gun, then prosecute. But the worst thing they currently have after YEARS of going through that laptop is Hunter dong pics.

 

[TraderPatTX]

While it's very interesting to keep up to date with the ongoing and constant barrage of information about this whole cluster f---, in the end all we can do is sit back, and enjoy the ride until the conclusion. The Jan 6th committee has passed on their evidence and thousands of testimonies to the DOJ, and now all we can do is see if the DOJ and the special council follows through with where the evidence points.

Everyone's online opinions on the matter are of zero weight, as we're not constitutional lawyers, and are more than likely horribly biased.

I personally hope that there's a huge arrest before Christmas, to make my family gathering all the more joyous. But I'm one of those aforementioned biased people who want people held accountable for crimes. If you want to come out and say "But but but Hunter!!!", then I'll agree with that too. If there's a smoking gun, then prosecute. But the worst thing they currently have after YEARS of going through that laptop is Hunter dong pics.

If you think the worst to come from the laptop are dick pics, then you are not paying attention. There are emails and text messages which have been released that paint a dire picture of pay to play schemes while Biden was Vice President. Tony Bobulinski verified that he is the recipient of many of those emails.

 

[titan_tim]

If you think the worst to come from the laptop are dick pics, then you are not paying attention. There are emails and text messages which have been released that paint a dire picture of pay to play schemes while Biden was Vice President. Tony Bobulinski verified that he is the recipient of many of those emails.

I'll be the first to admit, a lot of smoke, but no smoking gun. Find the gun, and I'll be with ya.

Same thing happened with the emails between Trump Jr. Remember that one?
“This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump.”
- Goldstone
“If it’s what you say, I love it, especially later in the summer.” - Trump Jr

Once again, LOTS of smoke, but no final resolution.

 

[lolcatzuru]

I don’t really follow this story that closely because there’s nothing to follow - we’ve known from day 1 that the president had effectively absolute classification authority. There was no point (and there isn’t any point) in keeping tabs on it as it’s a non-story. If the nuclear documents *weren’t* among the ones found then that’s news to me and it makes the whole matter even more irrelevant, turning it into a minor infraction that was quickly corrected.

that's surprisingly reasonable, and i appreciate that opinion.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Except that's not at all what took place. They didn't just decide out of the blue one day that he might have documents that don't belong to him, then go raid his place later that afternoon.. You're presenting a very much manipulated narrative.

As usual lol

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Democrats been denying election results for decades. So what?

In your own little world perhaps

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It really doesn’t. That’s a suggested route, not a prerequisite. We’re talking about the chief executive here. You are welcome to follow the link provided, and the myriad of sources within.

I provided my own, just as authoritative if not more than yours.

 

[Foxi4]

I provided my own, just as authoritative if not more than yours.

More than… the SCOTUS? Uhm… alright - nothing to discuss here then.

In your own little world perhaps

Stacey Abrams denied losing her Georgia election and dodged questions regarding her lack of concession for years.

 

[TraderPatTX]

I'll be the first to admit, a lot of smoke, but no smoking gun. Find the gun, and I'll be with ya.

Same thing happened with the emails between Trump Jr. Remember that one?
“This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump.”
- Goldstone
“If it’s what you say, I love it, especially later in the summer.” - Trump Jr

Once again, LOTS of smoke, but no final resolution.

Normally I would say that the FBI would handle this, but they seem to be preoccupied going after grandma and her memes on social media instead of actual illegal activity. It's not like they don't have a history of hiding laptops. We still haven't seen Anthony Wiener's laptop and they are actively trying to hide Seth Rich's laptop even after a judge told them to hand it over. Not to mention all of the video evidence they gathered from Jeffrey Epstein's estates in NYC, New Mexico and Pedo Island and the little black book that still have not seen the light of day.

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As usual lol

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In your own little world perhaps

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I provided my own, just as authoritative if not more than yours.

You really don't know how to use the internet do you? I found this in under 5 seconds.

 

[RedColoredStars]

You really don't know how to use the internet do you? I found this in under 5 seconds.

LOL! Twelve whopping minutes compared to a countless number of hours of stolen election bullshit from the Republicunts. Half of the shit is completely out of context and they also didn't start an insurrection at the Capitol over some brief comments. They also simply didn't go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on on and on for two years with the same "Stolen!!!!" bullshit involving a single candidate. I've never heard a single Democrat ever say that Trump wasn't actually the President when he won either. Maybe on tv or the internet. But in the real world I never came across anyone who denied he was President. Here we are, 2 years, people will still 100% insist that Biden is not actually the President even though there is zero amount of credible evidence to show there was enough voter fraud to overturn. Yeah, there were over 7 million fraudulent votes, which just so happened to ALL be in favor of Trump. There's a difference between making passing claims/opinions after an election & running with one single lie for 2 years straight. Had Republicans said Trump really won and then just moved on and accepted the facts, a lot of this shit wouldn't even be happening. It's glaringly obvious that your video and what the Trumplicans are doing have significant differences.

 

[TraderPatTX]

LOL! Twelve whopping minutes compared to a countless number of hours of stolen election bullshit from the Republicunts. Half of the shit is completely out of context and they also didn't start an insurrection at the Capitol over some brief comments. They also simply didn't go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on on and on for two years with the same "Stolen!!!!" bullshit involving a single candidate. I've never heard a single Democrat ever say that Trump wasn't actually the President when he won either. Maybe on tv or the internet. But in the real world I never came across anyone who denied he was President. Here we are, 2 years, people will still 100% insist that Biden is not actually the President even though there is zero amount of credible evidence to show there was enough voter fraud to overturn. Yeah, there were over 7 million fraudulent votes, which just so happened to ALL be in favor of Trump. There's a difference between making passing claims/opinions after an election & running with one single lie for 2 years straight. Had Republicans said Trump really won and then just moved on and accepted the facts, a lot of this shit wouldn't even be happening. It's glaringly obvious that your video and what the Trumplicans are doing have significant differences.

The argument wasn't the number of minutes, but that Democrats have never denied election results. The video proves that Democrats have indeed threatened our democracy and denied election results. You moving the goalposts does not change that.

I can say that nobody on the right has ever bombed the Capitol.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-black-lives-matter-leader-bomb-us-capitol-1983-1568372

 

[RedColoredStars]

The argument wasn't the number of minutes, but that Democrats have never denied election results. The video proves that Democrats have indeed threatened our democracy and denied election results. You moving the goalposts does not change that.

I can say that nobody on the right has ever bombed the Capitol.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-black-lives-matter-leader-bomb-us-capitol-1983-1568372

I never said it was about the minutes and I never moved the goalposts. Wtf are you on? You're just making shit up out of thin air now. If you want to talk about moving goals perhaps you shouldn't have posted the bombing story, as I never debated anything of the sort. I mean, what a stupid fucking comparison anyway. It's about as brilliant as "I didn't punch you, I hit you." I mean, ya''ll wanted to murder Pelosi and Pence. Others actually did die as a result of the events on Jan 6th. But hey, all's well. All of that doesn't matter, cuz, you know, at least ya didn't bomb it. Right? I mean. What in the fuck goes through your head to post such flat on stupidity?

 

[TraderPatTX]

I never said it was about the minutes and I never moved the goalposts. Wtf are you on? You're just making shit up out of thin air now. If you want to talk about moving goals perhaps you shouldn't have posted the bombing story, as I never debated anything of the sort. I mean, what a retard fucking comparison anyway. It's about as brilliant as "I didn't punch you, I hit you." I mean, ya''ll wanted to murder Pelosi and Pence. Others actually did die as a result of the events on Jan 6th. But hey, all's well. All of that doesn't matter, cuz, you know, at least ya didn't bomb it. Right? I mean. What in the fuck goes through your head to post such flat on retard?

LOL! Twelve whopping minutes compared to a countless number of hours of stolen election bullshit from the Republicunts.

Maybe if you would read what you write instead of trying to insult people like it's 2016, you wouldn't be so mad and dumb.

The only people who died on Jan 6 were Ashli Babbit and Rosanne Boyland. One was shot inside and one was mercilessly beaten outside.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Stacey Abrams denied losing her Georgia election and dodged questions regarding her lack of concession for years.

Didn't incite an insurrection about it tho yeah? Conceding isn't a duty in any way.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Didn't incite an insurrection about it tho yeah? Conceding isn't a duty in any way.

There were the Summer of Love riots that killed over 50 people, including police officers. They weren't caused by her, but she definitely supported all of the death and destruction.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

There were the Summer of Love riots that killed over 50 people, including police officers. They weren't caused by her, but she definitely supported all of the death and destruction.

Lol if you have some evidence that would be nice.

Oh and FYI: your terrorist pals who assaulted the capitol are definitely your right wing Republican pals. And the police behaved like a total coward. So if you expect me to cry for the terrorist Babbit, think again.

 

[tabzer]

People pushing the Trump caused a riot narrative are allergic to self-responsibility. Certainly, they live with their parents--because it's their fault they were born. They want to believe that people are mindless tools, that do whatever the tv says, because it makes them feel better in not having control in their own lives. Maybe addicts and junkies based on how that other thread went.

 

[Xzi]

They want to believe that people are mindless tools, that do whatever the tv says

People, no. MAGAts, yes. Trump told them to eat horse paste to prevent COVID, and some of the morons actually fucking did.

 

[tabzer]

People, no. MAGAts, yes. Trump told them to eat horse paste to prevent COVID, and some of the morons actually fucking did.

Zero self-awareness. Thanks for the demonstration.

 

[titan_tim]

Normally I would say that the FBI would handle this, but they seem to be preoccupied going after grandma and her memes on social media instead of actual illegal activity. It's not like they don't have a history of hiding laptops. We still haven't seen Anthony Wiener's laptop and they are actively trying to hide Seth Rich's laptop even after a judge told them to hand it over. Not to mention all of the video evidence they gathered from Jeffrey Epstein's estates in NYC, New Mexico and Pedo Island and the little black book that still have not seen the light of day.

Grandma's posting memes? Are you referring to that garbage article on fox talking about the FBI twitter account publicly telling Twitter that some people were violating twitter TOS? Clutch your pearls everyone!
Joahnathan1wade, fromMA, madandpissedoff, mault_thomas? Those "grandmas"? Out of those four it seems that fromMA is still active on twitter, and is quite liberal. Guess the FBI is bipartisan for who they report.

For Weiner, I'm guessing you're talking about the HILLARY EMAILS and not him getting fired for those idiot pics. God that was creepy, but at least he lost his job and wife. The HILLARY EMAILS I could give two rats asses about. The last two secretary of states before her had their personal emails (Powell and Rice). The right has just decided to blow THIS one out of proportion.

Seth Rich, no clue as to what they've found if they've found anything. Could be a mugging gone wrong, could be something more insidious.

For Epstein, I hope they're building up cases against anyone involved, since rich people are that much harder to pin down. But I'm as pessimistic as you on this one, in that I don't expect much any time soon. Just like the Pandora papers. Remember those? That was so huge for a week!

I will NOT be a tribalist and make excuses for people who obviously break the law. When it comes to Trump, it's open and shut. The evidence is overwhelming. If the right wants to nail the Clintons to the wall, they'll need to do a better job at laying out the facts. Instead, they had her being questioned for hours and she never plead the 5th.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Lol if you have some evidence that would be nice.

Oh and FYI: your terrorist pals who assaulted the capitol are definitely your right wing Republican pals. And the police behaved like a total coward. So if you expect me to cry for the terrorist Babbit, think again.

You must be a glutton for punishment. I prove you wrong every time you open your mouth and you are still dumb enough to HaHa all of my posts. It's almost like humiliation is part of the kink, right?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled

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Grandma's posting memes? Are you referring to that garbage article on fox talking about the FBI twitter account publicly telling Twitter that some people were violating twitter TOS? Clutch your pearls everyone!
Joahnathan1wade, fromMA, madandpissedoff, mault_thomas? Those "grandmas"? Out of those four it seems that fromMA is still active on twitter, and is quite liberal. Guess the FBI is bipartisan for who they report.

Actually, there are emails between the FBI and Twitter where the FBI was telling Twitter who to ban and censor. Then they paid Twitter millions of dollars. I mean, if you support fascism, then just say so.

For Weiner, I'm guessing you're talking about the HILLARY EMAILS and not him getting fired for those idiot pics. God that was creepy, but at least he lost his job and wife. The HILLARY EMAILS I could give two rats asses about. The last two secretary of states before her had their personal emails (Powell and Rice). The right has just decided to blow THIS one out of proportion.

Well, since other people did wrong, everybody afterward can do the same. Good kindergarten logic you got there.

Seth Rich, no clue as to what they've found if they've found anything. Could be a mugging gone wrong, could be something more insidious.

A mugging where nothing was stolen off of him. He still had all of his money and jewelry. Explain why the FBI is fighting tooth and nail to keep his laptops hidden.

For Epstein, I hope they're building up cases against anyone involved, since rich people are that much harder to pin down. But I'm as pessimistic as you on this one, in that I don't expect much any time soon. Just like the Pandora papers. Remember those? That was so huge for a week!

I will NOT be a tribalist and make excuses for people who obviously break the law. When it comes to Trump, it's open and shut. The evidence is overwhelming. If the right wants to nail the Clintons to the wall, they'll need to do a better job at laying out the facts. Instead, they had her being questioned for hours and she never plead the 5th.

So for Trump, it's an open and shut case even though he's still playing golf any time he pleases, but when it comes to the Cllintons, it better be an airtight case. Yeah, you're not a tribalist at all, lol.

 

[Foxi4]

Didn't incite an insurrection about it tho yeah? Conceding isn't a duty in any way.

We weren’t talking about inciting insurrections, you’re changing the subject. You made a claim that Democrats don’t deny election results. I gave you a specific example of a Democrat denying election results, for years on end. In Abrams’ case her party colleagues were supporting her claims along the way, too. It led to a protracted 4-year legal battle. Abrams started a “non-profit” called Fair Fight, aiming to change the election laws in her state since losing to Kemp hurt her fee-fees. I’m not even joking, she spent nearly half of a decade denying that she lost.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna50287

I’m using inverted commas for “non-profit” since the objective here is to change the law so that she (and her ilk) would have a better chance of winning, so it’s entirely for her personal, and more broadly, the party’s benefit.

So, without moving goal posts this time, Democrats do deny election results when it suits them - this is just one example.