3DS is better than PSVita only because...

PSVita works like a smartphone with its higher resolution touchscreen. 3DS' dual screen is nothing more than a gimmick. Honestly speaking, the PSVita just outperform 3DS with its visuals and performance without the gimmicky 3D effect and the redundant second screen. Most people and the guys or gals here would just choose it over the 3DS isn't it? But only those popular games on the 3DS are released on PSVita... I am happy with my new Nintendo 3DS LL system for now anyway, as the game I wanted to play, Monster Hunter 4G is released on it. The game could be better in visuals though, only if it's being released on the PSVita. I would just ditch the 3DS if the game I hoped to play is released on the PSVita. And ditching PSVita in the future if Nintendo were to release another revision of 3DS with at least the same level of visuals the PSVita now can produce. It's really a shame that Nintendo weren't upgrading the resolution of its latest revision of the 3DS system. Games like Monster Hunter or 3D alike games certainly are deserving a more enjoyable user experience with better visuals. Games could just work out like those TV-based consoles, without a second screen to split your concentration on the game itself and even it's a touchscreen, heck, PSVIta already have it in one for touch-playing. The conclusion of this thread is that PSVita just lost out mainly to 3DS because of the library of games it ls lacking compared to the 3DS, and games just aren't receiving the level of visuals they deserve on a better hardware. Most notable example of such game is Monster Hunter. *Thinks how wonderful it would be if developers of popular/flagship games of Nintendo shift towards PSVita* *Sighs at Nintendo for having the 3DS visuals remained at the level of the old PSP still, even at their latest hardware revision.* Someone feel free to make a tl;dr for this cluttered post if desired.


TL;DR I'm not a graphics tart

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What I actually wanted to convey: Putting the past of Nintendo's and Sony's competition of handhelds aside and disregarding other external factors, I think handheld games of this generation are better off presented on the PSVita.

Why: PSVita's hardware outperforms 3DS' hardware and provided touch-based gameplay on a single screen rather than a redundant second screen. Tons of games work single-screened without issues in the past and present, dual screen is just a gimmicky Nintendo DS' trademark, games don't need it. 3D effect is also proven redundant as time goes by.

Imagine: PSVita at first own all the top rated titles of 3DS up until now, 3DS is in the current state of PSVita. What the 3DS would be boasting to attract consumers would be: 3D effect you don't use much, second screen, poorer resolution, poorer performance and these causes various limitations to the games produced on it, especially open world games.

Handheld games of this generation deserve to be produced at a higher quality in the form of a PSVita game than a chunky 3DS' one. I am not a fandude of either systems, I understand the very hard cold fact of the real world that 3DS is a better handheld in terms of popularity and sales than the PSVita with its awesome library of games. I will recommend 3DS to be purchased to anyone deciding on acquiring a handheld console for how well it is working now in real life, having more choice of games. The graphics of 3DS is not an issue for me when I am playing Monster Hunter 4G as it's already satisfactory and the gameplay is great. I only think that handheld games still have room for more enjoyment with improved visuals a PSVita can provide.

These are just my thoughts and I get on with what real life is going on with. Don't be blinded by the fact that your conscience actually agreed that PSVita in this case which do not have redundant 3D effect and second screen, outperformed 3DS in performance and visuals especially and mainly when you are a supporter of 3DS yourself, starts to think that I am bashing the 3DS because of graphics.

I am a "supporter" for the 3DS now for the fact of its choices of games and good gameplay. But the PSVita in my opinion is a better platform for the existing handheld games on the 3DS to strive towards higher quality gameplay experience. Currently, 3DS reigned the handheld console sector so I'll just get on with it and the games of a higher quality on a more powerful device such as the PSVita may only be a thought that I am sharing here.

Maybe this will clear up the misunderstanding people have for me regarding the posts I have made and someone may understand my point.

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Koldur
Why don't you just develop such a system yourself and the games as well! Problem solved!
 
sudeki300
if you wanted better graphics you should of bought a vita instead of buying a 3DS and wishing for better graphics, not really sure of the point of your thread.........................sudeki300
 
Z
I am not facing any problem with either of the portable consoles. I am stating that games of 3DS deserve to perform with better visuals provided by PSVita. Sadly, good games are released on the 3DS due to the fact that Nintendo markets the 3DS better than Sony's PSVita.
 
TecXero
This might be a video to spark a more interesting discussion:


For me, I haven't used a PS Vita as there aren't any exclusive games that have caught my interest. I can assume that it is a successor to the PSP in every sense. I really liked the design and feel of the PSP, but I rarely used it beyond homebrew. My main problem with it was the lack in variety of games. It had plenty of games, but mostly in a select few genres, ones that didn't interest me much (beyond a few exceptions, but even those struggled to keep my interest). Now I'm not saying those games are bad, I'm sure they're great for those that did enjoy them and I'm not one to limit myself to one console and handheld in a generation, but I mostly ended up using the PSP as an emulation handheld. It was a shame, too, the controls were great and felt like more of a spiritual successor to the GBA. Even a lot of the platformers (which I'm generally a sucker for) felt clunky and slow. I would have been fine with the games being sprite based, as long as they played well.

Overall, I like the handheld, just not the games. After I got a better handheld for homebrew, I sold both my Slim and Go. The PSP was the first console/handheld that I actually sold off. I still have my SNES and Genesis hooked up to my HDTV and a working Game Gear. I simply don't sell my stuff, with few exceptions and only if I have an extra. No matter how powerful or well designed a platform is, it's only as good as its games.

The 3DS could use improvements, but I don't think graphics is really a concern for the majority that enjoy the 3DS.
 
Z
TecXero said:
This might be a video to spark a more interesting discussion:


Overall, for me, I haven't used a PS Vita as there aren't any exclusive games that have caught my interest. I can assume that it is a successor to the PSP in every sense. I really liked the design and feel of the PSP, but I rarely used it beyond homebrew. My main problem with it was the lack in variety of games. It had plenty of games, but mostly in a select few genres, ones that didn't interest me much (beyond a few exceptions, but even those struggled to keep my interest). Now I'm not saying those games are bad, I'm sure they're great for those that did enjoy them and I'm not one to limit myself to one console and handheld in a generation, but I mostly ended up using the PSP as an emulation handheld. It was a shame, too, the controls were great and felt like more of a spiritual successor to the GBA. Even a lot of the platformers (which I'm generally a sucker for) felt clunky and slow. I would have been fine with the games being sprite based, as long as they played well.

Overall, I like the handheld, just not the games. After I got a better handheld for homebrew, I sold both my Slim and Go. The PSP was the first console/handheld that I actually sold off. I still have my SNES and Genesis hooked up to my HDTV and a working Game Gear. I simply don't sell my stuff, with few exceptions and only if I have an extra. No matter how powerful or well designed a platform is, it's only as good as its games.

The 3DS could use improvements, but I don't think graphics is really a concern for the majority that enjoy the 3DS.
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I am glad that you actually read the post. The title of this topic may be misleading for some people. But yeah, the PSVita lacked games. If only the PSVita come with the titles of the 3DS, I doubt the 3DS will be more popular than the PSVita now. I play for good gameplay experience, not entirely graphics. That's why I'm saying that I'm happy with my current 3DS as good games came out on it BUT, still have room for more enjoyment, aka better visuals for me. The system of choice for me is based on the games I play so whichever system have the games I wanted, that's it.

So basically, the PSVita have all ways on its own to have games work better on it than the 3DS especially the visuals it produce. It's just that developers have issues with the development cost for the games and poor sales of PSVita due to poor marketing strategy.
 
5
Why play 3ds games when you can play vita games with better graphics?
Why play vita games when you can play phone games with better graphics?
Why play phone games when you can play tablet games with better graphics?
Why play tablet games when you can play console games with better graphics?
Why play console games when you can play pc games with better graphics?

Also just a reminder, graphics by themselves do not make a game good.
 
Z
59672 said:
Why play 3ds games when you can play vita games with better graphics?
Why play vita games when you can play phone games with better graphics?
Why play phone games when you can play tablet games with better graphics?
Why play tablet games when you can play console games with better graphics?
Why play console games when you can play pc games with better graphics?

Also just a reminder, graphics by themselves do not make a game good.
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Did you read my post?

Making it simple, leave aside the developers of games and sales of 3DS and PSVita. If both of the systems were to have all the titles released up until now, 3DS' and PSVita's altogether, available on both of the systems, which would consumers more likely to choose? Obviously PSVita isn't it? Better visuals and performance. PSVita do not get the attention it deserved for games from good developers because of Sony's way of marketing.
 
Clydefrosch
yes, psvita has no games. also two screens are great if they're utilized right.
and no, people would still chose 3ds too. because two screens can be nice. the 3ds is cheaper i believe than the vita. the 3ds is easily the more portable console.
has the 3ds better battery life? i dunno but i would just go and assume it.

fact is, a few years ago, people choose the wii over both the360 and ps3. and it surely wasn't due to graphics.
 
TecXero
zerono0o said:
I am glad that you actually read the post. The title of this topic may be misleading for some people. But yeah, the PSVita lacked games. If only the PSVita come with the titles of the 3DS, I doubt the 3DS will be more popular than the PSVita now. I play for good gameplay experience, not entirely graphics. That's why I'm saying that I'm happy with my current 3DS as good games came out on it BUT, still have room for more enjoyment, aka better visuals for me. The system of choice for me is based on the games I play so whichever system have the games I wanted, that's it.

So basically, the PSVita have all ways on its own to have games work better on it than the 3DS especially the visuals it produce. It's just that developers have issues with the development cost for the games and poor sales of PSVita due to poor marketing strategy.
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Agreed. I tend to subscribe to the idea that the big misstep at the beginning was Sony treating it like a console, not a handheld. Not that that alone is its downfall, but that's where it seems to start.
 
cearp
3ds is better for me because it's hacked.
when vita is hacked i will start using mine again. :)
 
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FireGrey
The 3ds is more of a portable gaming system, that is why it is better.
Firstly it is more portable, you just close it and throw it in your bag without worrying about damage or a case.
Secondly it has games designed for portable.
Thirdly, there is more reason to bring it with you, the popular game for it are ones you can do local multiplayer with, chances are that if you see someone with a 3ds they have a game that you do that you can play together.
Also street pass is something you can share with others without actually approaching them, which is cool.
 
Z
Whatever the case, I am emphasizing that a gaming system's success depended on the games it have. The Wii have good amount of games, leading to good sales, on the other side, Wii U lacked games, poor sales. Currently, except for lacking support from game developers for the PSVita due to Sony's cause, it should be superior over the 3DS with its hardware to handle games better visually, such as better graphics, constant framerate, less stutters and smoother loading times etc. With PSVita's current aspects compared to 3DS, it should be competing more advantageously than the 3DS.
 
Clydefrosch
zerono0o said:
Whatever the case, I am emphasizing that a gaming system's success depended on the games it have. The Wii have good amount of games, leading to good sales, on the other side, Wii U lacked games, poor sales. Currently, except for lacking support from game developers for the PSVita due to Sony's cause, it should be superior over the 3DS with its hardware to handle games better visually, such as better graphics, constant framerate, less stutters and smoother loading times etc. With PSVita's current aspects compared to 3DS, it should be competing more advantageously than the 3DS.
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the wii certainly didnt have more good or exclusive games than the 360. being honest here, the wii had more crap than both ps3 and 360 combined.it still outsold both.
the number of games a system has at the start of its lifetime and a year after is decisive for any console. if it doesnt look like it will get many games, it will fail. like the wiiu. because 3rd parties actually went ahead and openly told people they wouldnt make games for it. thats what killed the wiiu. it might make a barely moderate comback if it sells better through new zeldas and smash bros. but if its not, then it will end up like the gamecube. which also had good games, many games, better looking games than the ps2 and was visually on par with the old xbox and had the best controller ever.

you literally keep saying that its all about the graphics and cpu power. which it isnt. the fact that the psp sucked against the old ds alone gave buyers the kind of brand awareness that lead to a failing psvita.and the psp was also clearly supperior to the ds. both had the same amount of piracy going on, the same amount of new versions coming out. still the ds outsold it. as did its games.
the vita would have sold greatly if the 3ds wasnt cheaper and had recovered from its games being canceled drought in time.

the vita could get better. if people would make games for it. but with its small user base, basically only first party would even consider doing it (because they still profit from both sold games and consoles) third party on the other hand only earns money through software sales. and even if they brought out a systemseller than sold a billion vitas, they wouldn't get any additional money for that miracle.


your general argument: if the vita had all the games, people would buy the vita is just nonsense. first of all, its not the way the world works. its a 'for the sake of argument' kinda deal where you propose a nonexistent reality in which everything is possible, but you can't prove it one way or another. chances are it wouldn't make any difference.
 
anhminh
So because 3DS was so success nobody care about Vita anymore, is that what you saying?
Then get what, when 3DS first come here there isn't game for it either, no third party support that worth mentioning and all first party triple AAA at launch wasn't good enough. Many have say it will gonna be a first handheld failure of big N. But get what, they finally get they ass together and make more first party game for it, they aren't give up on it or marketing it with they new console Wii U like what Sony did Vita.
And now you come here and ask why Vita doesn't have game?
 
TecXero
zerono0o said:
Whatever the case, I am emphasizing that a gaming system's success depended on the games it have. The Wii have good amount of games, leading to good sales, on the other side, Wii U lacked games, poor sales. Currently, except for lacking support from game developers for the PSVita due to Sony's cause, it should be superior over the 3DS with its hardware to handle games better visually, such as better graphics, constant framerate, less stutters and smoother loading times etc. With PSVita's current aspects compared to 3DS, it should be competing more advantageously than the 3DS.
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Well, that contributes to it, but wouldn't guarantee it would do well. It also depends on catching the interest of the consumers and keeping it affordable. Like you said earlier, how they marketed it also didn't help. The Dreamcast, while it had plenty of great games, ended up failing due to the interest in the PS2. Many different people bought into the PS2 even though they weren't "gamers", simply because it was a cheap DVD Player. Then a lot of those people did start buying games for it simply because they already had a PS2 and children or people willing to play it.

I'm not disagreeing, just emphasizing that there's more than simply having good games. I think price point is also a large issue, alongside the games and marketing. Nintendo has a long history of balancing those well. The Game Boy, while much weaker than its competition, was marketed well, had great games, and a low price point. Sony designs great high end systems (for consoles), but they've had problems with complicated hardware (that developers have had problems developing for), expensive systems, and marketing centered around pushing new technology (PS1 with CDs, PS2 with DVDs, PS3 with Blu-ray, and PSP with UMD). That works well for their consoles but hasn't proven well for their handhelds. Having a large variety of games is a great start, but Sony will have to do a lot more to have something that competes on Nintendo's handhelds' level.

anhminh said:
So because 3DS was so success nobody care about Vita anymore, is that what you saying?
Then get what, when 3DS first come here there isn't game for it either, no third party support that worth mentioning and all first party triple AAA at launch wasn't good enough. Many have say it will gonna be a first handheld failure of big N. But get what, they finally get they ass together and make more first party game for it, they aren't give up on it or marketing it with they new console Wii U like what Sony did Vita.

And now you come here and ask why Vita doesn't have game?
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I don't think this topic is about the Vita being a bad handheld, as it's obviously not, but rather what could have been done differently to make it more competitive with the 3DS. I rather like the design of the Vita, I like it far more than the 3DS's hand-cramping design, it just simply doesn't have enough exclusive games to get me to invest in it. These kinds of discussions crop up a lot about various platforms, nothing harmful about it and could lead to an intelligent discussion.
 
MyJoyConRunsHot
Rofl! The Vita hardly has better graphics than 3DS, have you played RE:R? Ironfall? The New 3DS? Trolls will be trolls I guess.
 
Duo8
Here we fucking go again.
At least post it in general gaming discussion.
 
yusuo
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that although on paper vita is better the lack of support for it from sony themselves as well as developers makes it a pretty expensive yet redundant purchase.
On top of that it uses proprietary peripherals.

I can't think of one valid reason to buy a vita until it's hacked
 

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