"Xbox One S" image leaks surface

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    Other than a couple faulty units there is no epidemy of overheating PS4's. I've dabbled in PC builds since the original Pentium - I'd wager I know a little more than you do. For instance, I know that organized airflow is far more important and more efficient than having a bunch of free space in your tower for no reason. Space that'll fill up with hot air that you have to vent out anyways.
    I'm okay with that. A lot of people do need a hole in their head.
    What is it with people and loud PS4 fans? I have a launch system, I play on it every single day, and it's rarely audible. Clean the vents, guys.
     
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    Not a vent issue. Has done it since day one - and the PS4 isn't faulty. I have several friends with a PS4 and they have the exact same thing with loud fans. All purchased at different times. I purchased mine 13 month ago and the loud fan was always existent (not always loud but gets loud often enough to be extremely annoying and off putting) - just like the PS3. Never had the same issue with the xbox 360 or xbox one

    Neither PS3 or PS4 have ever been as quiet as the XBOX ONE or XBOX 360 in my experience

    http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/...-expansion-4tb-portable-hard-drive-sgexphh4tb and http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/...rtable-hard-drive-black-sgbkpp4tb?cm_vc=pdrp1 - they do exist and this is only an example of two - just not cheap (this is AUD) and they have been out for some time.

    Not saying a 4Tb drive is needed but just showing they do exist
     
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    @Fun_Zephyr That's interesting. I seem to have the opposite experience - my fiancee's 360 Slim sounds like a space shuttle taking off in comparison to the PS4, not that either bothers me.

    As for the drives, I would rather have 500GB-1TB of even the slowest SSD than a 4TB HDD - f*ck load times, they're killing me.
     
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    My PS4 was also loud when I played more intensive games like Infamous Second Son, and eventually as more games started to use more power I gave up and traded it for an Xbox One because they're so much more silent and cooler.

    That being said, the newest model of the PS4 (CUH-1200 & 1215) is supposed to be significantly quieter than my launch model was, but even then the Xbox One interface is just so much better that I don't think I could ever go back to the PS4, even if I began console gaming again.
     
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    Looks quite sleek.
    Hope they really improved the heat displacement system, 4k for such a small box...
     
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    You'll find there are two in that. Same to the other person.

    A single 2.5 inch internal 4tb hdd is not yet available. My point stands.

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    Those contain 2x 2tb separate drives internally. You're welcome to check the many reviews. My argument stands.

    A single internal 4tb 2.5 inch drive is not yet available.
     
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    Lol you know more then i do. Sure ! That's why you're also saying that problem is non existent with the ps4. A psu in a small place is asking for problems. A bigger space does make the difference since you can manipulate the airflow and pull in a bigger stream of cold air that cools the system down. You're saying it doesn't make a difference wich it does ! So don't spout bullshit claiming like a little kid '' i know much more then you'll ever do ! '3 Because that's just childish. Plus don't go changing what i said. I never said anywhere free space without reason.
     
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    Having more free space doesn't increase air flow - having an unobstructed air stream and efficient fans does. The PS4 draws 150W of power at peak, 90 on average - the PSU doesn't generate a lot of heat at values that low and is the least of your worries.
     
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    I forgot to add to my post.

    You GOD DAMN PEOPLE COULDN'T WAIT ONE FUCKING DAY.
     
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    Now you're changing again what i said. for the 3th time already i said : "A bigger space does make the difference since you can manipulate the airflow and pull in a bigger stream of cold air that cools the system down. I never said anything about increasing the airflow and if you think the psu inside the console isn't a factor to overheating then that's your right but my opinion about that isn't gonna change either way.
     
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    You certainly said things. Having "more free space" allows you to "manipulate air flow" in a PC case by the virtue of allowing you to pick where the intake/exhaust fans are (thus changing the direction of the air stream) and what size they are (changing the number of blades or the diameter of the fans can increase or decrease the speed of the air flow, using fans of differing sizes can alter the air pressure inside the case as well) - that's irrelevant in a console since the cooling profile is pre-determined. There is no need to alter the air flow as the position of the components is standardized on all boards, unlike on PC with varied motherboard layouts and form factors. The PSU being inside the case is a factor - a small, insignificant factor, because it's not the primary heat source in the case and never reaches temperatures higher than the APU. In fact, if the air stream reaches the APU first and the PSU is situated near the exhaust, it has virtually no effect on core temps as the fan blows ambient temperature air from the outside of the case directly at the APU, whatever's at the other end of the board is irrelevant as the heat exchange is already complete. You don't necessarily need more space on the inside of the case to make the air stream "bigger" - you can just implement a bigger intake - the air will find its way to the exhaust anyways and you'll pump more air into the case.
     
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    Like i said previously you have your opinion on that and i have mine and that's isn't gonna waver at any time so it's quite pointless to even further discuss this.
     
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    It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of physics. A kettle will boil water that's just standing in it doing nothing, but it won't boil it if it's pouring in on one end and pouring out on the other because the hot water (heat exchanged) is actively replaced with cool water (ambient temperature air intake). The faster it pours through the cooler it will be. The more empty space you have the more power you need to introduce to pump it out. You don't *want* a bunch of standing air inside the case, you want a stream.

    To be fair, the truth is a little bit in-between - there's a lot of math that goes into heat exchange and effective cooling. Point is, having too much space is not beneficial, neither is having too little. Engineers spend plenty of time designing effective cooling, there are no "easy solutions" here.
     
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    and there you go again. Like i said a couple of times before. I never said anything about increasing airflow, i never said anything about a bigger free space with no reason at all. I never see myself telling something different then what you're stating exept that a console generates more heat then a console does because it's packed tightly together and an internal psu is a factor in that. Like i already said before my opinion about that isn't gonna waver so it's utterly useless to even discuss this. And also stop making it sound like i said differently just like you did with your last comments. I'm not even responding to anything you're saying so stop making it sound so. But i guess that's what all you dweebs do just to make it sound you're winning a discussion even when the other person isn't even discussing anything anymore.
     
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    There's no need to be upset, I'm just pointing out some discrepancies. You're free to have your opinion, I'm free to have mine. You're right in saying that an internal PSU is a factor as it does increase the case temperature, I was merely explaining how depending on the design of the cooling system that impact can be negligible, even if the system is tightly packed. By the way, I'm also not twisting what you've said - a system that's tightly packed has little free space by definition, so it's natural for me to assume that you think having more space would be beneficial - it's simple logical progression based on what you've said. On a console that's tightly packed as you say, your biggest worry is the surface area of the radiator as that's the element that exchanges heat between the processor and the air, the PSU is just sitting out the back getting whatever scraps of cold air it can get. You seem to be under the impression that we're IM'ing - we're not. This is a forum - your willingness to respond has no bearing on my replies as I might as well clarify things for other users. You said something I disagreed with (although there was a kernel of truth in it), so I responded with my own opinion. Besides, you're the one who attacked me by saying that I don't know what I'm talking about - I do, I just have a different opinion.
     
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    I attacked you ? Let me copy paste the first reaction i got from you on my comment that wasn't directed at you. "I've dabbled in PC builds since the original Pentium - I'd wager I know a little more than you do." That's what you said to me. So clearly i wasn't the one that started attacking.
     
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    Whoops! ;)
     
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    Okay well i missed that part. Touché lol
     
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    Don't get me wrong, I get your point. You don't want to stack heat sources on top of each other, I get it. I was just saying that there are ways around that. No need to get upset, I wasn't going out of my way to rustle your jimmies. Truce, and cheers, boy scout! :P
     
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