The Chromebook / Chromebox Thread

[LightyKD]

Lacius, do you use Chrome OS for your personal computing?

 

[weatMod]

Stop watching so much porn and maybe your computer wont be riddled with viruses. That and dont click on every ad you see online, and while you're at it, dont open emails from people you dont know.

Then your computer will run decently. Everything you've stated points at one thing, viruses.

Learn how to safely use your computer online and stop blaming others for your problems..

i dont do any of those things, except the porn of course but i only go to trusted sites
it's not a virus problem i thought it was too but when i got a brand new machine and it still does it right out of the box when i never went to any porn sites
it still does it, it's just a fact that these new OS and new machines have serious problems and dont perform as well as even older legacy stuff from previous generations
not sure if its because these new OS's are loaded with spyware and are just memory and resource hogs in general or if the processors are just shit or a little bit of both

and googles web based services are just crap, google drive is crap

also no viruses or malware are ever detected

 

[Lacius]

Lacius, do you use Chrome OS for your personal computing?

No, I use Windows.

 

[weatMod]

It is possible to teach computer literacy using Google or something else as a launching point. In fact, that's how it works, but I guess you wouldn't know. Also, telling me I'm too lazy to teach computer literacy is just idiotic, considering that it's a significant part of my day job. What you said just doesn't make sense.


Ignoring the fact that much of the world is going the way of email and becoming web-based, which is still real computing (whatever that's supposed to mean), we have Windows computers, and we reference other items that aren't Google Apps.


If you don't like it, either don't use it or encrypt your data.


We wouldn't be using Google if it weren't highly functional and user-friendly, not to mention highly convenient and cheap. If they piss us off, we'll move on; that's how the market works. I also genuinely laughed at your comment about data mining. Ignoring that there's no real evidence for this child exploitation as you describe it, my students are sending "hi" email messages to each other and typing research papers on Ebola. I'm not sure what Google has to be gained or what my students have to be lost. I'm probably doing more data mining on them than Google.

"It would take the whole school year to adequately say, "Here's how Windows works. Here's how Mac OS works. Here's how Android works. Here's how iOS works. Here's how Google works. Here's how Microsoft Word works. Here's how LibreOffice works. Here's how Outlook works."

you just admit that the schools are too lazy to teach how to use an actual OS and too cheap to provide real computer, you are teaching them how to use inferior ssytems
out of laziness and because the school is too cheap to provide proper machines

and you are very naive if you think that these companies are not data mining the children
i can assure that they most certainly are all their data is being sold to the government the corporations, potential future employers
and i can bet your schools is signed on to common core as well

 

[LightyKD]

No, I use Windows.

Cool beans. Also, you will want to check Google's End of Life Policy to see if this applies to the Chromebooks purchased for your school:

https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/eol.html

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

i dont do any of those things, except the porn of course but i only go to trusted sites
it's not a virus problem i thought it was too but when i got a brand new machine and it still does it right out of the box when i never went to any porn sites
it still does it, it's just a fact that these new OS and new machines have serious problems and dont perform as well as even older legacy stuff from previous generations
not sure if its because these new OS's are loaded with spyware and are just memory and resource hogs in general or if the processors are just shit or a little bit of both

and googles web based services are just crap, google drive is crap

also no viruses or malware are ever detected

Sorry for being snappy, I don't know what got into me to be honest. Realistically when using Windows 8/8.1 yes those particular OS's are super bloated. That's why I refuse to "upgrade" (more like downgrade). I dual boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu on my desktop and my laptop. Both are several years old and they run beautifully. Desktop only has a dual core pentium and 4gb of ram, i'm not really a pc gamer obviously, given my specs. The only pc game I ever play is WOW which you can run on any windows machine made in the past 10 years XD. Laptop is a tri-core AMD (can't remember which processor off hand) 4gb of ram also. Runs great for what I'm doing.

I also have a chromebox (not my primary pc of course) but its lightning fast despite the fact that it also has a dual core pentium and only 2gb of ram. With how lightweight ChromeOS is and the fact that it runs off an SSD makes up for the minimal specs. The only slow down I notice is a result of adding Ubuntu to it (through the developer's backdoor) using crouton. The way I have it set up, essentially ChromeOS and Ubuntu pretty much run side by side. The linux kernel that Chrome is based off of is used for both ChromeOS and Ubuntu at the same time and you can switch between interfaces/software compatibility. This is where the computer bottlenecks. I need to set it up as dual boot instead of how I have it set up now and performance should be comparable to what I had before (at least under ChromeOS, it should be identical to before I added Ubuntu).

I'm a huge fan of linux and lightweight OS's in general. Throw a lightweight linux distro on a 10 year old XP machine and it will run like nobody's business. But try to upgrade to a later version of windows and fuggedaboutit. Only reason I keep windows is because I'm forced to in order to run certain software. I could set up a VM but I prefer to dual boot as my hardware is older and for a VM I would need to allocate a good chunk of my resources to the VM which would inhibit performance both inside and outside the VM.

 

[weatMod]

Sorry for being snappy, I don't know what got into me to be honest. Realistically when using Windows 8/8.1 yes those particular OS's are super bloated. That's why I refuse to "upgrade" (more like downgrade). I dual boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu on my desktop and my laptop. Both are several years old and they run beautifully. Desktop only has a dual core pentium and 4gb of ram, i'm not really a pc gamer obviously, given my specs. The only pc game I ever play is WOW which you can run on any windows machine made in the past 10 years XD. Laptop is a tri-core AMD (can't remember which processor off hand) 4gb of ram also. Runs great for what I'm doing.

I also have a chromebox (not my primary pc of course) but its lightning fast despite the fact that it also has a dual core pentium and only 2gb of ram. With how lightweight ChromeOS is and the fact that it runs off an SSD makes up for the minimal specs. The only slow down I notice is a result of adding Ubuntu to it (through the developer's backdoor) using crouton. The way I have it set up, essentially ChromeOS and Ubuntu pretty much run side by side. The linux kernel that Chrome is based off of is used for both ChromeOS and Ubuntu at the same time and you can switch between interfaces/software compatibility. This is where the computer bottlenecks. I need to set it up as dual boot instead of how I have it set up now and performance should be comparable to what I had before (at least under ChromeOS, it should be identical to before I added Ubuntu).

I'm a huge fan of linux and lightweight OS's in general. Throw a lightweight linux distro on a 10 year old XP machine and it will run like nobody's business. But try to upgrade to a later version of windows and fuggedaboutit. Only reason I keep windows is because I'm forced to in order to run certain software. I could set up a VM but I prefer to dual boot as my hardware is older and for a VM I would need to allocate a good chunk of my resources to the VM which would inhibit performance both inside and outside the VM.

yeah only thing is that win7 is probably going to have major driver issues on a new machine with touch ,it's ok for desktops but i idont think you can really do it on laptops/ultrabooks that were designes specifically for 8 or 8.1, ubuntu supports touch but i never used it but im sure there will be driver issues with that too

what i dont understand is that now MS got rid of RT completely and are running full 8.1 on their tablets
they must run like complete shit
i only glanced at them in the MS store and saw metro on it, but i bet if you sat down with it and tried to do anything on it it would be an excercize in futility unless they are running a lighter version or something ,how can they run full 8.1 on tablets when it barely works on a full laptop/ultrabook with top specs

 

[RevPokemon]

yeah only thing is that win7 is probably going to have major driver issues on a new machine with touch ,it's ok for desktops but i idont think you can really do it on laptops/ultrabooks that were designes specifically for 8 or 8.1, ubuntu supports touch but i never used it but im sure there will be driver issues with that too

what i dont understand is that now MS got rid of RT completely and are running full 8.1 on their tablets
they must run like complete shit
i only glanced at them in the MS store and saw metro on it, but i bet if you sat down with it and tried to do anything on it it would be an excercize in futility unless they are running a lighter version or something ,how can they run full 8.1 on tablets when it barely works on a full laptop/ultrabook with top specs

Because to simply put it, Windows 8 may not work great on tablets due to specs but it is better than the faster RT because RT has always been mediocre due to lack of support.

 

[weatMod]

Because to simply put it, Windows 8 may not work great on tablets due to specs but it is better than the faster RT because RT has always been mediocre due to lack of support.

oh yeah we know MS is doomed to fail with their crAPP store, there are what 6 apps in the whole thing?
you are right RT ws useless because MS are retarded they waited waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long to decide to get intot he tablet OS, and app store game
they are just way too far behind to ever catch up
now that RT is finally gone they should just kill off metro an their doomed app store as well put it out of its misery once and for all
i just feel bad for anyone who was actually dumb enough to buy one these devices like an RT tab or windows phone
all though there is a way to get android apps running on RT im sure it's not very good even though i never tried it

im just saying that there is no way full windows can run anywhere near decent on a tablet because it dont even run decent on high end ultrabooks
so how can run anywhere near decent on these tabts that haveintel atom processors, they all have atom processors except for the surface 3 and that is like 2 grand for the i7

 

[RevPokemon]

oh yeah we know MS is doomed to fail with their crAPP store, there are what 6 apps in the whole thing?
you are right RT ws useless because MS are retarded they waited waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long to decide to get intot he tablet OS, and app store game
they are just way too far behind to ever catch up
now that RT is finally gone they should just kill off metro an their doomed app store as well put it out of its misery once and for all
i just feel bad for anyone who was actually dumb enough to buy one these devices like an RT tab or windows phone
all though there is a way to get android apps running on RT im sure it's not very good even though i never tried it

im just saying that there is no way full windows can run anywhere near decent on a tablet because it dont even run decent on high end ultrabooks
so how can run anywhere near decent on these tabts that haveintel atom processors, they all have atom processors except for the surface 3 and that is like 2 grand for the i7

Remember also the i3 and i5 are much weaker in tablets and laptops due to energy.

Also you are wrong about the android on windows tablet part as since they use x86 it won't run many android os apps since they are for arm

But yeah windows will never run great on a tablet since it isn't made for tablets. Rather it needs a unique os that actually has apps,programs and what not

 

[weatMod]

Remember also the i3 and i5 are much weaker in tablets and laptops due to energy.

Also you are wrong about the android on windows tablet part as since they use x86 it won't run many android os apps since they are for arm

But yeah windows will never run great on a tablet since it isn't made for tablets. Rather it needs a unique os that actually has apps,programs and what not

yeahs that what i said android apps probably wont run good, you need to use a program like bluestack to do it but i have no idea on performance or compatibility
also i was talking about the old RT windows tablets that have RT which i think are arm the regular windows tablets that run full windows are x86

 

[PityOnU]

Wow, lots of MS hate in this thread.

Mind you, that's to be expected. It is a ChromeOS thread after all.

The new Pixel sounds pretty awesome, btw.

 

[weatMod]

Wow, lots of MS hate in this thread.

Mind you, that's to be expected. It is a ChromeOS thread after all.

The new Pixel sounds pretty awesome, btw.

well to be fair i still use MS windows but i HATE 8.1 and it runs like shit

i never used chrome OS and no interest in doing so i hate google even more than MS
i will never use cloud based anything i don't trust it and i never will
i don't like the idea of MS trying to copy apple and google with this cloud stuff ,metro and other things the only good thing they have copied from apple is the implementation of actual brick and mortar stores where you can actually get free support, it's the only thing this company has done right
probably since win7

and google chrome runs like shit on win8.1, but google probably runs like shit on 7 now too i bet,

i noticed when i was running it on win7 that it had gotten significantly worse and slower before i switched to brand new 8.1 machine and not just chrome but pretty much all browsers since about 2011 2012 have gotten much much slower and much worse performance with each"update" seems like performance continues to significantly decline with each new version update that is forcefully updated automatically i cant even use FF anymore ,

i dont what they are doig but i suspect they are putting in more and more spyware to the point it is really seriously affecting performance firefox is the worst one and chrome has been declining really bad now as well though
i remember being able to have 5 windows open with 60 tabs in each window open and multiple browsers
open at once and having no problems no slowdown nothing
now i have like 20 to 30 tabs open in one window and its crashing slowing down and all kinds of problems
FF is slow its not even useable for me and chrome is not what it used to be

 

[LightyKD]

Wow, lots of MS hate in this thread.

Mind you, that's to be expected. It is a ChromeOS thread after all.

The new Pixel sounds pretty awesome, btw.

Pixels are always awesome but they're damned expensive (at least for me).

 

[RevPokemon]

well to be fair i still use MS, i never used chrome OS and no interest in doing so i hate google even more than MS
i will never use cloud based anything i don't trust it and i never will
i don't like the idea of MS trying to copy apple and google with this cloud stuff ,metro and other things the only good thing they have copied from apple is the implementation of actual brick and mortar stores where you can actually get free support, it's the only thing this company has done right
probably since win7

Well I love android is and don't hate google (use gmail) but for me just because its Google doesn't mean I like it or hate it as it depends on the product.

Ms I do hate because of the way the company is but I still use vista a lot

Cloud computing? I love the idea but it sucks due to the fact most companies steal privacy (except mega) and it just isn't practical

 

[LightyKD]

Well I love android is and don't hate google (use gmail) but for me just because its Google doesn't mean I like it or hate it as it depends on the product.

Ms I do hate because of the way the company is but I still use vista a lot

Cloud computing? I love the idea but it sucks due to the fact most companies steal privacy (except mega) and it just isn't practical

Why T.F. are you still using Vista? Also, how is cloud computing not practical (for you)?

 

[BORTZ]

Love my Acer Chromebook. Reason? I didnt want a laggy as balls android Tablet. I wanted the internet cause I havent used a computer for anything else since college. Google has everything I need. Docs, Drive for space, and the internet.

Why T.F. are you still using Vista? Also, how is cloud computing not practical (for you)?

 

[RevPokemon]

Why T.F. are you still using Vista? Also, how is cloud computing not practical (for you)?

Vista? Simple my laptop is damn old and my mom didn't want to update to 7

Also cloud is practical since generally I did most of my files on the system to use rather than on could although I still is mega a lot

Love my Acer Chromebook. Reason? I didnt want a laggy as balls android Tablet. I wanted the internet cause I havent used a computer for anything else since college. Google has everything I need. Docs, Drive for space, and the internet.

Personally for me my tablet runs very fast but I can see why you'd use it since it fits your needs

 

[weatMod]

Well I love android is and don't hate google (use gmail) but for me just because its Google doesn't mean I like it or hate it as it depends on the product.

Ms I do hate because of the way the company is but I still use vista a lot

Cloud computing? I love the idea but it sucks due to the fact most companies steal privacy (except mega) and it just isn't practical

VISTA!
masochist confirmed!
no wonder you hate it
google has ruined everything they have touched
they ruined youtube with linking it to plus
they ruined maps with a huge fucking piece of shit search box obstructing half the screen that you cant even get rid of and changing street view
drive just sucks period you cant browse it with thumbs because it' it's so fucking unuseably slow
chrome has all sorts of problems it never had before with crashing and shockwave flash crashing all the time and scrolling not working right and being slowed to a crawl all the time
they made changes to image search results that suck too
they are always changing shit without warning most of the time for the worse with no warning or explanation
and they have NO support for ANY of their products ZERO!

they constantly delete videos and terminate YT channels on bogus complaints
they delete comments and lock and delete accounts all the time
i had my accounts deleted been locked out of gmail and all serivces multiple times
no contact, no recourse , fuck this company serious fuck them they are NOT to be trusted
and you cant ever contact them EVER

 

[RevPokemon]

VISTA!
masochist confirmed!
no wonder you hate it
google has ruined everything they have touched
they ruined youtube with linking it to plus
they ruined maps with a huge fucking piece of shit search box obstructing half the screen that you cant even get rid of and changing street view
drive just sucks period you cant browse it with thumbs because it' it's so fucking unuseably slow
chrome has all sorts of problems it never had before with crashing and shockwave flash crashing all the time and scrolling not working right and being slowed to a crawl all the time
they made changes to image search results that suck too
they are always changing shit without warning most of the time for the worse with no warning or explanation
and they have NO support for ANY of their products ZERO!

they constantly delete videos and terminate YT channels on bogus complaints
they delete comments and lock and delete accounts all the time
i had my accounts deleted been locked out of gmail and all serivces multiple times
no contact, no recourse , fuck this company serious fuck them they are NOT to be trusted
and you cant ever contact them EVER

To clarify, Vista isn't the issue I've also used XP a lot and have used PCs on 7 &8

I do agree I hate how google has done to certain services and have consider going to hide my ass email. As for search I use duckduck go