Hacking Super Smash Bros 3DS - 9.2.0-17U Update

[HtheB]

The 2ds would like to have a word with you young man.

ah yes the 2DS....
Never thought people actually use them

 

[Darklinkreturns]

ah yes the 2DS....
Never thought people actually use them

Pretty sure the N3DS can't be downgraded either.

 

[HtheB]

Pretty sure the N3DS can't be downgraded either.

What is the minimum fw that you have to be to gain access to the browser exploit?

If you really need 9.X, then it could still be usefull for N3DS owners that are on 8.X

So in other words:
Get Sky3DS and use the SSB3DSv1.1 rom -> Upgrade FW to 9.2 -> Use Gateway on FW9.2 -> Profit!

 

[TehCheez]

Pretty sure the N3DS can't be downgraded either.

From my understanding it can be with the newest Gateway update. When I was dumping the ROM it gave me the option to downgrade.

 

[DjoeN]

This should be frontpage news

 

[HtheB]

From my understanding it can be with the newest Gateway update. When I was dumping the ROM it gave me the option to downgrade.

There is no lower fw for N3DS then 8.X
So you CAN'T downgrade to 4.X

Also: Gateway doesn't support the N3DS yet.... !

 

[TehCheez]

There is no lower fw for N3DS then 8.X
So you CAN'T downgrade to 4.X

Also: Gateway doesn't support the N3DS yet.... !

I read his post wrong. Didn't catch the N before N3DS.

 

[zoogie]

There's more to this rom than meets the eye (new3ds specific partition added):
http://www.3dbrew.org/wiki/System_Update_CFA#New3DS
(yellows8 just committed that)

*look at #6

 

[Oishikatta]

If you only want this to update emunand, why not just update emunand to 9.5 online?

a) I prefer to keep emunand offline
b) Nice to have a known working update that's recent and with themes, the last version that supports all of the recently published exploits (e.g. say Nintendo releases 9.6 and gateway disappears)

 

[gamesquest1]

There's more to this rom than meets the eye (new3ds specific partition added):
http://www.3dbrew.org/wiki/System_Update_CFA#New3DS
(yellows8 just committed that)

*look at #6
View attachment 15725

i was actually thinking about that earlier, like how would they manage the n3ds cart updates, guess the new3ds will use both partition 6 & 7, taking the shared assets from 7, and the n3ds specific titles from #6 as #6 is only 1MB

 

[apoptygma]

a) I prefer to keep emunand offline
b) Nice to have a known working update that's recent and with themes, the last version that supports all of the recently published exploits (e.g. say Nintendo releases 9.6 and gateway disappears)

B) is a very very valid point. For the same reason I have images of my emunand SD cards but that won't save me if I need to get a new console for example. Good call.

 

[zoogie]

i was actually thinking about that earlier, like how would they manage the n3ds cart updates, guess the new3ds will use both partition 6 & 7, taking the shared assets from 7, and the n3ds specific titles from #6 as #6 is only 1MB

I would think that actually the new3ds would only look at it's own partition given it starts out at a much higher base firmware (9.0) that the old3ds. The old3ds partition, on the other hand, potentially needs to upgrade a 1.0 system, hence the much bigger partition size from all the changed titles.

 

[gamesquest1]

I would think that actually the new3ds would only look at it's own partition given it starts out at a much higher base firmware (9.0) that the old3ds. The old3ds partition, on the other hand, potentially needs to upgrade a 1.0 system, hence the much bigger partition size from all the changed titles.

possibly i suppose on cart updates only update the essentials, but still 1MB seems awfully small ......actually i suppose its a US rom so it would only be the update from 9.0->9.2 ....so yeah 1MB is probably right, if it was JPN i suppose it would be bigger to cater for the changes from 8.1->9.2

 

[bache]

I vaguely remember someone telling me that updating your SysNAND with a ROM would lead to a brick. Is that the case, or would we be able to update our SysNAND to 9.2.0 using this?

 

[gamesquest1]

I vaguely remember someone telling me that updating your SysNAND with a ROM would lead to a brick. Is that the case, or would we be able to update our SysNAND to 9.2.0 using this?

if you had the cart sure, but if your using a rom, be prepared for a brick.....not saying it will, but several people where bricked updating to 8.1+ while in gateway mode

 

[zoogie]

Here's the file listing of the decrypted update cfa's for SSB 3ds 9.2 for those curious...

Spoiler

--new3ds--
Saving romfs\SNAKE\0004013820000002.cia... (new3ds NATIVE_FIRM)
Saving romfs\SNAKE\cup_list...
 
--old3ds--
Saving romfs\0004001000021000.cia...
Saving romfs\0004001000021100.cia...
Saving romfs\0004001000021f00.cia...
Saving romfs\0004001b00010702.cia...
Saving romfs\0004001b00010802.cia...
Saving romfs\0004003000008a02.cia...
Saving romfs\0004003000008f02.cia...
Saving romfs\0004003000009002.cia...
Saving romfs\0004003000009202.cia...
Saving romfs\0004003000009302.cia...
Saving romfs\0004003000009602.cia...
Saving romfs\0004003000009702.cia...
Saving romfs\000400300000c502.cia...
Saving romfs\000400300000c802.cia...
Saving romfs\000400300000c902.cia...
Saving romfs\000400300000cb02.cia...
Saving romfs\000400300000cc02.cia...
Saving romfs\000400300000cd02.cia...
Saving romfs\000400300000ce02.cia...
Saving romfs\0004009b00010402.cia...
Saving romfs\0004009b00010602.cia...
Saving romfs\0004009b00012302.cia...
Saving romfs\0004009b00013302.cia...
Saving romfs\000400db00010302.cia...
Saving romfs\000400db00010502.cia...
Saving romfs\000400db00017302.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000001502.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000001602.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000001702.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000001802.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000001a02.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000001b02.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000001c02.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000001d02.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000001e02.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000001f02.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000002002.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000002102.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000002202.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000002302.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000002402.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000002602.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000002702.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000002802.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000002902.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000002a02.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000002b02.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000002c02.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000002d02.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000002d03.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000002e02.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000002f02.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000003102.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000003202.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000003302.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000003402.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000003502.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000003702.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000003802.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013000008002.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013800000002.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013800000003.cia...
Saving romfs\0004013800000102.cia...
Saving romfs\0004800f484e4841.cia...
Saving romfs\cup_list...

 

[TehCheez]

Case.

 

[drfsupercenter]

Yeah, it's very curious how they are using the same stock number (83565A) even though there's an update built in.

Mario Kart 7 changed from A to B when they re-issued it with the 1.1 update preinstalled. I've seen other "B" versions as well, like Tomodachi Life and Pokémon X/Y (Does anybody own either of those and could tell me if they include updates?)

 

[tony_2018]

So what it seems here is that SSB is using additional space for updates?
3DSXL is only updated to 8.1 with this same card/rom?
N3DSXL/LL gets update to 9.2 with this same card/rom?

If all of the above is true than that might mean the additional features of the N3DSXL/LL might be able to be implemented into a 4.5 firmware. Kinda like rebuilding a windows 7 installation disk but with additional drivers to support new hardware

 

[Oishikatta]

So what it seems here is that SSB is using additional space for updates?
3DSXL is only updated to 8.1 with this same card/rom?
N3DSXL/LL gets update to 9.2 with this same card/rom?

If all of the above is true than that might mean the additional features of the N3DSXL/LL might be able to be implemented into a 4.5 firmware. Kinda like rebuilding a windows 7 installation disk but with additional drivers to support new hardware

No, that's not at all what is here.

This cart updates both the 3DS and N3DS to 9.2. It has an additional partition with N3DS specific files. That is all.