[Release] Monster Hunter Double Cross English UI Patch

Discussion in '3DS - ROM Hacking, Translations and Utilities' started by dasding, Mar 21, 2017.

  1. Kuro Kairaku

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    I don't think using assets from one game to another is much of a problem. I'd respect bounderies when it gets less gray area like adding One franchise character into another, but quite frankly it also depends on the nature of the mod. Plus its a modification. Modding in general is already Minefield legal step, so why only avoid one mine, but cross the others? I support the idea of utilizing MHG as reference, and honestly, its the most efficient way to get with it. We need to strike while the iron is hot, MHXX has only just been released in May 26 or somewhere close to that date. Its still June, middle of June but still June, not month later just yet.

    I'd love to help out with translations, but I'd also want to do it in the most efficient way possible, and that is using MHG as a reference to speed up work exponentially. Though that is what I want. I'd prefer to work as a team, rather than alone and against others.
     
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  2. Coder_Oak

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    Well said! No need to argue and split up, we're all Monster Hunter fans right? :D
     
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  3. clancy94

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    Will the same method used for luma in https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-monster-hunter-stories-translation.468306/ work for double cross?

    *EDIT*
    Works like a charm, here is how I did it:

     
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  4. DarkSynopsis

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    Hope it turns out well :) I just had a quick look at the first NPC file between MHG and MHXX and after a certain point the lines don't line up so not a simple copy/paste :(

    Would be nice to say to friends who haven't really played Gen to pick up MHXX and English Patch it and at least be able to get through the Gen content in English.
     
  5. Theroid

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    Hey there, i really love u guys for working on a english patch <3.
    But somehow i get an error with the first and second methods (didnt tried the third one)
    My 3ds runs the newest Firmware with b9s and luma 8. I donwload the patch, installed it and started NTR Selector. But everytime i start the game these two things happen
    0d608f94-a770-4ace-88d5-8809feecdd3b.jpg c8974e9d-5615-4178-b2e0-5a862df6f1ea.jpg
     
  6. Noroxus

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    It does look like Capcom pulled a Dai Gyakuten Saiban on us.
    Just wanna express my support for a full translation here :)
     
  7. Coder_Oak

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    Which file/line were you looking at? I was just looking at the files too and I noticed MHXX has extra lines at the end (presumably due to new content), but I thought the ones before that did line up.
     
  8. mattskiiau

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    Are you on patch 1.1.0?

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    I was looking at "npc_001_td_jpn" file, I believe around the following is where it starts to stop lining up.

    I had already guessed the extra lines was the MHXX only content but shame to see not all the stuff before lines up, might work out better with different NPCs, I didn't look at any other files.
     
  10. Coder_Oak

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    Damn, yeah you're right, so to use the Generations text as a starting point, someone would have to go through each line manually to match them up. That's a lot of work!
     
  11. DarkSynopsis

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    Yup, the text might line up again later on but only tool that edits the MH GMD files is RE Remaster Text Loader Tool? which is kinda a nightmare to do anything quick, would be nice if could get it all into Notepad++ for editing/reimporting.
     
  12. Coder_Oak

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    I used gmdDump.exe and a python script to batch convert them all to txt.
     
  13. DarkSynopsis

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    Ah Yes, I have gmdDump, seems I already dumped the MHXX files to txt before, still a matter of injecting those back in though.
     
  14. Kuro Kairaku

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    Regardless of what tool to use, to be able to just paste in an already existing translation, and fixing the rest sounds like an easier job than having to make the story translation from scratch. Using generation's as a reference, I wanted to use existing translations in the files (not just copy paste) to then fix up the story, then work on translating the rest. It would of took a while, but I wanted to do it.
     
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  15. DarkSynopsis

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    That is 100% the way to go, was just pointing out its not quite as effortless as people seem to think it would be to take everything from Gen into MHXX.

    Just for fun I threw together some PHP to preview the MHXX/MHG text side-by-side, does every file, thought it might make it a bit easier to match-up lines, though not something I actually plan on doing...
    Warning: Spoilers inside!
     
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  16. Kuro Kairaku

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    Wow, that's pretty amazing. If you know how to manage translation and put them into the game, I would love to work with you in completing the story translations. Out of curiosity, are the dialog files ordered via NPC? If it is, it sounds like it wont be that difficult, just go by NPC each time, and what not. All one needs to do is cross compare, then translate whats ever is missing and move onto the next.

    To be honest, I reached out to the original team, and mqk9999, whom brought the prospect if using existing resources, to offer my help. I feel better off offering my time and resources to get something done faster. Unfortunately, I have yet to hear from them. The problem is, I'm pretty new to all the tools and what not, all I have to offer IS my time. I'd do it all my self if I could. (though that would be stupid, much faster to work as a team)
     
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  17. Coder_Oak

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    I can offer code help too if any is needed. I agree it'd be great if dasding and his team decided to work on full story localization, then we could all work together.
     
  18. Kuro Kairaku

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    All I need is the files to translate, a little lesson on how the dialog works, and the Gens Files for reference. Of course the more to help the merrier. Dasding and their team, im unsure what they think, but probably view using Gen's translation, even as a reference, as an issue for copywrite, and believe it would bring attention the lawyers, and give the translation a CnD. (I'm unsure if that's true though). I personally believe its a risk regardless. No matter how you go about doing it, with factors such as popularity, playing a roll as well.
     
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    HELP !!! I didn't update my game from Freeshop. Now i'm stuck because i can't delete the game. Please help me fast !!
     
  20. Dionicio3

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    What does this have to do with this thread? Anyways, have you deleted Via system settings? FBI?