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THIS

As a Libertarian Party Supporter I am constantly told by either Democrats or Republicans that I support one side or the other just because I hate both of them. Same with Bush and Obama. I just do not get why people think that dislike of one means you like the other.
We've been conditioned to partisanship by the system. If you're not on my team, you're on "the other" team.
Well said! Here are some shining examples:

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...socks_the_cat_hits_kickstarter#comment3670799

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...socks_the_cat_hits_kickstarter#comment3670982

And here are my replies to that misinformed person:

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...socks_the_cat_hits_kickstarter#comment3670976

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...socks_the_cat_hits_kickstarter#comment3670990
 

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podesta's twitter was hacked via 4chan /pol/
tweet that was since removed
http://archive.is/OJjlI

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So what's the best defence of eyeing up ten year olds?
I suppose the best defense is the "my opponent is no better" line.
At the end of the day it is the only thing I am listening from both parties.
Kind of sucks the only defense these blockheads have is just digging up some shit from the other's side. But sure there is a lot to dig anyway.
 

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another day another 2000 fake russian propaganda emails released

(hillarys complete debate prepbook - see attachments)
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8009

(tin foil hat-ish, but this email was sent 3 days before Antonin Scalia's untimely death, "wet works" is a military term for assassination)
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6008

("the Clintons won't forget what their friends have done for them")
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7252

(Bill's 1 million dollar birthday check from qatar)
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8396#efmAAGABSAEOAETAEaAGWAGaAHZAJBAJd

(Clinton staff conspiring to fake Wallstreet speeches)
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8086

(talks about controlling her public speaking events, to make sure they dont seem low energy to the public)
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5240

("Foreign govt donors: all the money is in")
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7452

(collusion with CNBC and the hillary campaign on what to ask trump during on air interviews and even sending them graphs to show)
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7710

(the woman who accused trump of rape is linked to the clinton campaign)
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Forgive me if I haven't responded to the tinfoil hat email garbage that's been posted here recently. Given the lack of substance in the emails, in addition to the meltdown of the Trump campaign and Clinton's +6 (and rising) aggregate polling, I haven't seen much of a point in responding at all.
 

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Forgive me if I haven't responded to the tinfoil hat email garbage that's been posted here recently. Given the lack of substance in the emails, in addition to the meltdown of the Trump campaign and Clinton's +6 (and rising) aggregate polling, I haven't seen much of a point in responding at all.
I have to say I agree. It honestly would be better to focus on the key issues at hand which is why I am not voting for either of the big 2. Plus before the debates it was a semi bit of a stretch to say Trump would win but now it is semi impossible as

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If she wins only one of the gray states then she gets the 270 to win.


Any way off topic, any thoughts on how well McMullen is doing? I mean he is doing pretty well in Utah and according to 538 is more likely to get an electoral college vote than Johnson
 

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There's a great article on how McMullin is the third most likely candidate to win and has a reasonable path to victory.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features...utah-and-the-presidency/?ex_cid=2016-forecast
Yeah I saw it but a few issues I had are of course that to happen than Trump would have to do better in order to beat Hillary in enough states for the votes plus McMullin would have to still keep Utah. Plus we all know that congress would never let him or Johnson (who theoretically has a shot at NM) win and neither would the supreme court if it came down to it.

Edit: Also could just be me but I do think he + maybe castle could be much more of a "spoiler" (I hate that term) than Stein
 
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If podesta's apple login info in one of the emails wasnt proof enough, he even used the same exact password on multiple sites (gmail, twitter)
https://worldwide.vote/hillary-vs-trump/#/

Go and vote! It's kinda neat to see who which countries voted for. I'm surprised in Canada :O
People started running bots to vote though so that ruined it
 
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another day another 2000 fake russian propaganda emails released
This always confuses me, because it seems like there's a huge need to dismiss these sorts of things for some reason. For those who dismiss such things out of hand, or "zomg da russianz", do they not know how politics work? And why the assumption the republican's don't do the exact same thing? Is the fact that a politician works behind the scenes differently than how they present themselves THAT much of a shocker that you need to dismiss common-place events? Really, I have no doubt they just throw things at the wall sometimes to see what sticks, or at least all they can get away with, while still being able to present a believable persona of a morally driven human.

If there's a loophole that allows for an advantage, always assume they're going to take it until you have evidence to the contrary. Email the host to ask for special stuff? sure, why not. worse they can say is no. See if there's a loophole for accepting of foreign money? just don't piss off whoever would take you down and you're good. Hire folks to investigate charges and dig up as much dirt as possible on your opponent? Well that seems like something that you could morally justify to yourself after a few drinks. It's all about winning; the means always justify the ends in politics. That's the game.

Those few who have morals as their guiding force, like Bernie, are pushed to the side if they don't "play ball". There are a few republicans who are driven by their morals, and even though I disagree with many of their positions, I definitely respect them for that. Politics, as a general rule of thumb, are amoral in the US. Morals are a bonus, not a driving force, for many politicians.

On a related note, Wikileaks has yet to been shown to be factually wrong, and have a perfect track record with the veracity of their leaks. Until I see evidence to the contrary, I will give their leaks the weight they have earned.
 
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more juicy emails released, another 1000 (40,000+ emails yet to be released)

(clinton campaign discussing how to coverup the Benghazi emails)
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9272

(state dept. covering up emails deleted by hillary)
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9272#efmBI2BOJ

(talks about withholding emails that were sent and received from obama about the email subpoena, implies obama was involved with the email scandal)
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9545

(talks about trying to get small doners to counteract big donors to make it seems like more everyday people support her, possible creating fake names as donators)
https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9193

(Gonzalo Curiel who is a judge for a trump trial and who attacked trump, his wife has connections to the clinton campaign)
https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/10205

(some states were already claimed for hillary and rigged against other candidates way before primary voting took place)
https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9846

(Julie Pace a journalist in contact asking for something from podesta to paint hillary in a good light)
https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7489

and nothing to see here, just msm bias
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