But if you think about it, they would have never bought the games anyways, since they wouldn't have bothered to buy a 3DS. But now that they have one, there is atleast some potential for them to buy a game or two. I'm of the belief that the majority of people who pirate, are people who don't generally have the money to spend on games for one reason or another, while the people who do, can't be bothered with things like this and often like to have physical cards for each of their games. Of course there are some who pirate for the hell of it, but I think that group is very small and is greatly made up for by the increased exposure the rest of the pirates bring to a game.Team Jungle and Team Executer has some internal integration. But good on them for making products with excellent support, and like you said Quicksilver88, we all spend money on the systems, software, accesories, and hacking/modding, Im pretty sure there was a sudden spike in 3DS sales from gateway, definately in NZ there has been, with them selling more at some shops since june, than for the previous financial year (apart from the xmas Rush, they didnt count december sales), so piracy would definately help the actual console developers with sales, just the fallout is the developers miss out, as its the games which are pirated