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The OP has a point with RXtools being dead, but he's completely wrong into thinking that rxtools still exists because nintendo is stupid with updating. This could be said about any cfw. Luma3ds could be patched, reinand could be patched whatever you can think of can be patched. People are deadwrong into thinking that 'just because rxtools still works that it's the only one that won't work with the next update. Now it is true that luma3ds is sooner to get an update that might fix it, but no one says it's possible by next patch. At one point we could be stuck at a certain update like with the ps3 and psvita.
If Luma gets patched, it will get updated. If rxTools gets patched, it won't be.
 

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The OP has a point with RXtools being dead, but he's completely wrong into thinking that rxtools still exists because nintendo is stupid with updating. This could be said about any cfw. Luma3ds could be patched, reinand could be patched whatever you can think of can be patched.

OP is not wrong. rxTools works because the guys at Nintendo haven't flipped a "switch" in the firmware that will make some basic system apps (like the Home Menu) require the 11.x NATIVE_FIRM. Once they do, rxTools is done, since it's still using a very old NATIVE_FIRM version (the one from 9.6 I think). It won't boot at all.

Luma3DS, for example, is not outdated in this regard.
 

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The OP has a point with RXtools being dead, but he's completely wrong into thinking that rxtools still exists because nintendo is stupid with updating. This could be said about any cfw. Luma3ds could be patched, reinand could be patched whatever you can think of can be patched. People are deadwrong into thinking that 'just because rxtools still works that it's the only one that won't work with the next update. Now it is true that luma3ds is sooner to get an update that might fix it, but no one says it's possible by next patch. At one point we could be stuck at a certain update like with the ps3 and psvita.
Nope. RXTools is dead, nobody will update it to make it support a new firmware. Luma, on the other hand, is very much alive and will be fixed if needed.

Also, Crystal's a she afaik :D

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The thing rxTools will never understand is if it supposedly takes 5 minutes now to switch to Luma now, it'll take 5 minutes to switch to Luma in the future. If rxTools is truly axed in some future firmware update, it's not going to brick the 3DS, and it'll be easy to switch to Luma.
 

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The thing rxTools will never understand is if it supposedly takes 5 minutes now to switch to Luma now, it'll take 5 minutes to switch to Luma in the future. If rxTools is truly axed in some future firmware update, it's not going to brick the 3DS, and it'll be easy to switch to Luma.
It won't take just 5 minutes in the future for everyone to switch. There are still noobs who use rxtools on their consoles and blindly update. There may be an update in the future that breaks rxtools, produces an emunand "brick". They will be sitting there for several hours trying to figure out whats wrong, and spam create new threads on here asking what is wrong instead of googling.
 

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The OP has a point with RXtools being dead, but he's completely wrong into thinking that rxtools still exists because nintendo is stupid with updating. This could be said about any cfw. Luma3ds could be patched, reinand could be patched whatever you can think of can be patched. People are deadwrong into thinking that 'just because rxtools still works that it's the only one that won't work with the next update. Now it is true that luma3ds is sooner to get an update that might fix it, but no one says it's possible by next patch. At one point we could be stuck at a certain update like with the ps3 and psvita.
First, I am a girl :P
And I am not wrong. RXTools still uses 9.6 NATIVE_FIRM to function and currently the homemenu still seems to allow this NATIVE_FIRM to function, even on their latest OFW. The reason this is the case is literally because Nintendo is stupid in their updates. They can easily kill hardmod, DSI Downgrade, and RXTools, as well stale CFW's from working by simply updating the homemenu to only allow new NATIVE_FIRM for it to work. But for some reason Nintendo has not done that (yet.)
I am still correct, just because it works now, doesn't mean people should be still using it. They are only one smart update away from being forced to upgrade. It's better to have updated their CFWs now instead of waiting to be forced later. If anything, Nintendo is more than likely to either kill NATIVE_FIRM support for 9.6 and or 10.4, which would mean CFW's like Luma3DS and Corbenik will be up just fine because they can easily support newer NATIVE_FIRM and have active devs behind them.
 

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There are still noobs who use rxtools

Noob really ? It isn't a little pejorative ?
When RxTools will be patched all emunant will be even those lima / luma ...

A9HL can be patched also don't forget it, then can detect is you have modded your bootloader then ... soft brick and enjoy your useless 3DS so don't tell us what to do ppl will do what will be needed when it will be
 

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Noob really ? It isn't a little pejorative ?
When RxTools will be patched all emunant will be even those lima / luma ...

A9HL can be patched also don't forget it, then can detect is you have modded your bootloader then ... soft brick and enjoy your useless 3DS so don't tell us what to do ppl will do what will be needed when it will be
You do not seem knowledgeable enough. I will have you know - RXTools WILL be patched (even if not intentional - patching Hardmod/DSiWare downgrades will, as a consequence, kill RXTols as it relies on an old FIRM).
Even if using Luma on an EmuNAND, Luma supports 11.1 FIRM just fine, unlike RX.
A9LH is less likely to be hit.
 
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Noob really ? It isn't a little pejorative ?
The specific group that I am talking about are the noobs who are known to struggle with most things cfw. These are the people who are not too active in the community.
When RxTools will be patched all emunant will be even those lima / luma ...
read the post above you...
A9HL can be patched also don't forget it, then can detect is you have modded your bootloader then ... soft brick and enjoy your useless 3DS so don't tell us what to do ppl will do what will be needed when it will be
I will enjoy my softbrick because I have plenty of nand backups, I rarely actually update my sysnand (because I still happily use a region swapped emunand as my base nand), and most people with a9lh actually wait to get confirmation from people who know what they are doing, or have hardmods for stuff like this. Nintendo can also detect that you are using a 9.6 nfirm over 11.x or above.
 

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The specific group that I am talking about are the noobs who are known to struggle with most things cfw. These are the people who are not too active in the community.

read the post above you...

I will enjoy my softbrick because I have plenty of nand backups, I rarely actually update my sysnand (because I still happily use a region swapped emunand as my base nand), and most people with a9lh actually wait to get confirmation from people who know what they are doing, or have hardmods for stuff like this. Nintendo can also detect that you are using a 9.6 nfirm over 11.x or above.
Don't forget about CTRTransfers :D those are cool too

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Here's my plan,wait for sun and moon and pirate it on rxmode,beat single player then risk bricking during the switch to a9lh,if I brick,no sweat,sun and moon will be the last Pokemon game on the 3ds so I will play showdown for then on until Nintendo make there next handheld.

All I'm asking here is for 2 more months before I switch.​
 
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Noob really ? It isn't a little pejorative ?
When RxTools will be patched all emunant will be even those lima / luma ...

A9HL can be patched also don't forget it, then can detect is you have modded your bootloader then ... soft brick and enjoy your useless 3DS so don't tell us what to do ppl will do what will be needed when it will be
Coming in with some knowledge! first, yes, they can be patched, but since they have active devs behind them, it won't take long for them updated to work with whatever NATIVE_FIRM Nintendo adds. But it would be more than likely Nintendo will just patch out support for ≤10.4 for homemenu support. Why? Because looking at Nintendo's history for updates, that just seems like the most likely approach Nintendo will go with. Which would mean Luma3DS and Corbenik would be safe as they can use 11.1 NATIVE_FIRM and or are swiftly updated to for whatever Nintendo pumps out.
RXTools does not have this luxury. Any and all NATIVE_FIRM updates will result in losing RXTools.
Second, Nintendo will not create a targeted update to remove A9LH. Simply because code used by A9LH is tethered to each system, this means to do a targeted removal, will require the same code from the OTP. This kind of update would brick A9LH and most likely brick non-hacked users. It's too risky an update for Nintendo to do. If you need proof, just look what happened when people upgrade with Gateway on their A9LH system. Their system bricked because the update changed the FIRM0/1 and bricked the system. Nintendo would never intentionally do this.
As well the FIRM0/1 protection does work at protecting your FIRM0/1 from being targeted. I have personally proven this by downgrading my own system to 9.0, then upgrading to 11.0 (at the time) to see what would happen. My FIRM0/1 were left unaffected by this update.
 

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Here's my plan,wait for sun and moon and pirate it on rxmode,beat single player then risk bricking during the switch to a9lh,if I brick,no sweat,sun and moon will be the last Pokemon game on the 3ds so I will play showdown for then on until Nintendo make there next handheld.​
Or, you might just use Luma with Menuhax instead of RX.

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I'll give that a try then if I don't have to unlink anything during the process.
You don't, it doesn't change much besides being Luma instead of RX taking care if stuffs. It's easy to change, and is very worth it to make it future proof.

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I'll give that a try then if I don't have to unlink anything during the process.
Change CFW's is a painless process and effect nothing more than the means of reading the information off your NAND. So all you need to is change your current set up to another CFW and you will still be able to keep using the same setup, just being read with a different CFW.
 

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@Crystal the Glaceon I am willing to change it on my 2DS (have Rei/AnotherRei/Luma on my New since it appeared) but I am playing GBA encapsulated roms and DSi games on the system NAND patched with the "sysNAND mode" (I also used its XORpads and other generation options, but I know it can be done with D9).
What is the best custom firmware for me since Luma doesn't seem to start the sysNAND with the patches for the DS system?
 
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@Crystal the Glaceon I am willing to change it on my 2DS (have Rei/AnotherRei/Luma on my New since it appeared) but I am playing GBA encapsulated roms and DSi games on the system NAND patched with the "sysNAND mode" (I also used its XORpads and other generation options, but I know it can be done with D9).
What is the best custom firmware for me since Luma doesn't seem to start the sysNAND with the patches for the DS system?

Luma DOES have TWL patches, however it fails if the 3DS system has a TWL patched/modified.
 
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