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I wonder how Microsoft knows if you pirated or know if your Windows is not genuine if you are using KMS or VLC Key? Microsoft publishes these keys on their website. You could use a pre-made activation servers that you can activate your VLC Licensed Windows offline on your own Network. So in theory Microsoft probably does not know if Windows has been illegitimately activated or not. I am wondering if the free upgrade is not available for VLC users.
 
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Yay RTM Win 10 for me UMPC soon!
I won't upgrade me lappy just yet, slowly moving it towards win 10, might get a new lappy n move everything over slowly.
 
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also M$ is finally not trolling us and giving us the REAL start menu that we were promised with 8.1 that turned out to be a glorified MetroUI shortcut

LOL adding "desktops". something Ubuntu has been doing for years
It's actually not much different other than that the programs list is now on a scroll down menu on the same screen as the big metro icons instead of it's own separate screen on 8.1. I actually like it this way cos on 8.1 it was hard to find what program I wanted amongst a screen of like 100 icons. Though I don't like what the latest build has done and made it so you have to open up the metro icons menu, then click another button to bring up the programs list and power off button.

IMO I don't really see what the whole big deal about start menu is in the first place. Just pin non metro programs you use often to the metro screen, or use the search charm to find them. It's actually easier than using the 7 start menu and you essentially get a 2 in 1 OS that opens up a whole new realm of compatible software

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I also wonder: if someone has pirated Windows that they've, uh, "fixed" to be read as genuine, will the Windows 10 upgrade result in a legitimate license? I'm guessing they'll have checks in place to look for certain files and such to verify just how genuine the installation actually is, but I'm still curious.

Edit: Eh, on second thought, most pirate activation methods rely on deleting a specific update, so all they'd really have to do is have a check for that one file.
Do you mean activated with a genuine key some time later? It should just detect the genuine key and give you a genuine W10

Basically it detects your OS and upgrades to W10. if you have a legit key it will be used for W10, if you have a non legit key, it will be used to give you non legit W10
 
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Damn, and there's no way I can avoid going into safe mode or using a system restore? Bleh. Dammit, maybe I'll just get it via my college DreamSpark program instead. Figs.
No need for safe mode or system restore. if your pc freezes at the logon screen after the update. just reboot, press F8 at boot and select this:
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you'll be good with that ;).
 
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wow what a bunch of fucking useless garbage what the fuck are these assholes thinking?
first off metro, let it fucking go, let it die already nobody likes it
same for your shitty apps and app store

search searches on PC and web at the same time, no just fucking no, if im trying to find a photo of my cat on my PC named cat22, i don't want 50 trillion results from the web mixed in with my PC search results, GTFO with that shit

snap, snap your ass this shit has always been fucking annoying since 7 , snap snaps windows when you are just trying to move them and you have to disable it

these new snap features are even more retarded,
suggest windows to snap ,what? why?
completely fucking useless

snap 4 windows, oh no here we go again snap is fucking useless garbage even with 2 windows having to scroll around vertically and horizontally is fucking obnoxious and makes it useless with 2 windows, now you want to add 4? holy shit do they actually pay them to think up this garbage?

task view, again totally fucking useless that is what the task bar is for are they fucking serious? how about just fixing god damn task bar which never fucking works right, auto hide NEVER works on ANY version of windows, always either won't appear or wont hide, always breaks and malfunctions and does the exact opposite of what you want,gets stuck up and blocks things like google chrome DL bar or gets stuck hidden when you are trying to switch programs, fucking thing is unpredictable and never worked right

another bloated piece shit that will further cripple already lame performance i'm sure
who in their right mind would want to download and test this garbage based on this preview?

will probably make new forthcoming skylake ultamobiles run even worse than haswell ultramobiles run now with 8.1
no thanks

installing this shit on legacy hardware is suicide
create desktops is the only useful thing mentined in the preview besides return of start menu

how about adding some new useful features for once?
hey i got one, it's called windows cat mode
it would disable the keyboard and touch screen when you make a gesture on the touch screen,like spelling out c a t
then a button combo to re enable them
would be really useful for me my cat is constantly trying to type on my keyboard and rubbing against my laptop lid and closing my browser all the time

maybe it could go into some eye control when activated
 
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No need for safe mode or system restore. if your pc freezes at the logon screen after the update. just reboot, press F8 at boot and select this:
J26lA1B.jpg


you'll be good with that ;).

Well, I updated the OS and simply skipped that KB3033929 or whatever the offending one, what I haven't done is rebooted, but hopefully now I'll get the blood Window 10 prompt for reservation :P I also turned on "keep me updated on Microsoft product updates" or something like that, so maybe that'll kick in.
 
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wow what a bunch of fucking useless garbage what the fuck are these assholes thinking?
first off metro, let it fucking go, let it die already nobody likes it
same for your shitty apps and app store

search searches on PC and web at the same time, no just fucking no, if im trying to find a photo of my cat on my PC named cat22, i don't want 50 trillion results from the web mixed in with my PC search results, GTFO with that shit

snap, snap your ass this shit has always been fucking annoying since 7 , snap snaps windows when you are just trying to move them and you have to disable it

these new snap features are even more retarded,
suggest windows to snap ,what? why?
completely fucking useless

snap 4 windows, oh no here we go again snap is fucking useless garbage even with 2 windows having to scroll around vertically and horizontally is fucking obnoxious and makes it useless with 2 windows, now you want to add 4? holy shit do they actually pay them to think up this garbage?

task view, again totally fucking useless that is what the task bar is for are they fucking serious? how about just fixing god damn task bar which never fucking works right, auto hide NEVER works on ANY version of windows, always either won't appear or wont hide, always breaks and malfunctions and does the exact opposite of what you want,gets stuck up and blocks things like google chrome DL bar or gets stuck hidden when you are trying to switch programs, fucking thing is unpredictable and never worked right

another bloated piece shit that will further cripple already lame performance i'm sure
who in their right mind would want to download and test this garbage based on this preview?

will probably make new forthcoming skylake ultamobiles run even worse than haswell ultramobiles run now with 8.1
no thanks

installing this shit on legacy hardware is suicide
create desktops is the only useful thing mentined in the preview besides return of start menu
Noone's forcing you to use Metro. A lot of people like it. Infact, pinning applications you often go into the W7 start menu for to the Metro screen actually makes them easier to find than on W7 start menu. The mail app is pretty good too
As for the search apps and internet at the same time, I haven't given it much testing on W10 yet but if it's like the W8 search charm it shows you PC results first and lets you choose to look at web and store results.
 
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Noone's forcing you to use Metro. A lot of people like it. Infact, pinning applications you often go into the W7 start menu for to the Metro screen actually makes them easier to find than on W7 start menu. The mail app is pretty good too
As for the search apps and internet at the same time, I haven't given it much testing on W10 yet but if it's like the W8 search charm it shows you PC results first and lets you choose to look at web and store results.
what do mean? w7 start menu? you mean you added a non MS plugin one? there is no start menu, metro is on 8 and 8.1 not win 7 unless you added it with a non official plugin?

i never use apps and i have a convertible still don't use that shit, the only ones i use are ones that came built in and can only access certain OEM features like the camera and some OEM apps



they failed, their store has like no apps, the ones they do have are pretty much useless, metro on 8 /8.1 just fractures the whole thing,the whole OS experience

they should have just killed metro and their apps store when they killed RT
and gave the customers they ripped off and who were dumb enough to buy a surface and surface 2 or other RT product a refund credit to get a new x86 system

they waited far too long to get into the game IOS and android had too long of a head start they should just give up fucking bury that shit already along with
RT and zune
and stop wasting time and resources on something that is NEVER going to pan out
 
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what do mean? w7 start menu? you mean you added a non MS plugin one? there is no start menu, metro is on 8 and 8.1 not win 7 unless you added it with a non official plugin?

i never use apps and i have a convertible still don't use that shit, the only ones i use are ones that came built in and can only access certain OEM features like the camera and some OEM apps



they failed, their store has like no apps, the ones they do have are pretty much useless, metro on 8 /8.1 just fractures the whole thing,the whole OS experience

they should have just killed metro and their apps store when they killed RT
and gave the customers they ripped off and who were dumb enough to buy a surface and surface 2 or other RT product a refund credit to get a new x86 system

they waited far too long to get into the game IOS and android had too long of a head start they should just give up fucking bury that shit already along with
RT and zune
and stop wasting time and resources on something that is NEVER going to pan out

I like if you used the Windows 7 start menu to access Steam.exe or whatever, on Windows 8 you can pin it to the Metro screen and find it faster than you would've on Windows 7
And if you used an app that frequently you would put it on Desktop anyway.
Desktop's identical to Windows 7, so if you don't like the extra features just don't use them. It bugs me and other Windows 8 users on the preview that things such as the charms bar are removed in 10 because 7fanboys bitch about things they could always just disable and ignore. If disabling features you don't like isn't good enough then you're obviously just a troll who wants to ruin things other people like.
 

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I like if you used the Windows 7 start menu to access Steam.exe or whatever, on Windows 8 you can pin it to the Metro screen and find it faster than you would've on Windows 7
And if you used an app that frequently you would put it on Desktop anyway.
Desktop's identical to Windows 7, so if you don't like the extra features just don't use them. It bugs me and other Windows 8 users on the preview that things such as the charms bar are removed in 10 because 7fanboys bitch about things they could always just disable and ignore. If disabling features you don't like isn't good enough then you're obviously just a troll who wants to ruin things other people like.
there is no windows start menu, and you can't disable metro that is the problem
obviously you are using an non MS add on to get a win 7 start menu
 

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I am on wondows 10 since a month & everything runs fine . The "spartant" explorer is not ready if you want my opinion but all runs smooth . Of course I'm on a technical preview so I get a lot of updates... But I like what I see so far & suggest you guys to try it out ! + update free from mocrosoft !
 
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there is no windows start menu, and you can't disable metro that is the problem
obviously you are using an non MS add on to get a win 7 start menu
I use the Windows 8.1 Start "screen" which has all my metro apps plus an arrow I can click that brings up a menu with the same functionality but a different layout as the Windows 7 and 10 start menus.
But what I'm actually trying to tell you is that you can pin programs to the metro screen and find them MORE CONVIENIENTLY THAN the start menu. Somehow my description of the 8.1 metro app screen has registered twice to your 8phobia as a 3rd party start menu?

And as I said, if you really want to conveniently access something just make a desktop shortcut cos desktop is the same, if it's not something you use often then pin it to the start screen, look for it in the other menu I described or search it which has always been more convenient than looking through a long list of programs on start menu.

As for other 8 features such as charms bar, news app, mail app, xbox games etc if you don't like it just don't use it or disable it, you can even set it to go straight to desktop when you log in instead of the start screen.
 
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So, how do you reserve a digital copy of Windows 10? I can't seem to be able to do it. :(
 

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So, how do you reserve a digital copy of Windows 10? I can't seem to be able to do it. :(
You have to wait for the little windows icon to appear in the taskbar, then you can click it to reserve the digital copy. It appears via an update, although it's rolling out a little slowly, so I dunno when it might show up for you. It might be a minute from now, it might be tomorrow. If you Google, there is a way you could force the icon. It doesn't work for everybody, but it seems at least 80% effective.
 
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I use the Windows 8.1 Start "screen" which has all my metro apps plus an arrow I can click that brings up a menu with the same functionality but a different layout as the Windows 7 and 10 start menus.
But what I'm actually trying to tell you is that you can pin programs to the metro screen and find them MORE CONVIENIENTLY THAN the start menu. Somehow my description of the 8.1 metro app screen has registered twice to your 8phobia as a 3rd party start menu?

And as I said, if you really want to conveniently access something just make a desktop shortcut cos desktop is the same, if it's not something you use often then pin it to the start screen, look for it in the other menu I described or search it which has always been more convenient than looking through a long list of programs on start menu.

As for other 8 features such as charms bar, news app, mail app, xbox games etc if you don't like it just don't use it or disable it, you can even set it to go straight to desktop when you log in instead of the start screen.
ok i see , it was because you said start menu instead of apps by name
and i do create desktop shortcuts , but that is a another ass backward retarded thing about 8/8.1
when you go to apps by name you cant just right click and get a "create desktop shortcut" option in the menu you have to right click it and then go to open file location first and then right click it from there to create a shortcut, MS is fucking retarded why wouldn't they just put the option to create shortcut in the right click menu on the apps by name menu? these people have zero common sense and this proves it
 

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installing this shit on legacy hardware is suicide
Only if your PC is from 1999. Seriously though, relax a bit. If you have a Microsoft account, sign up for the preview builds. Anyone can. Just install it to a seperate partition on your drive or repurpose a spare hard drive to try it.

@the_randomizer I believe there was someone who pointed this out earlier on, but you can actually go the the Microsoft support website and request your Win10 upgrade there.
 

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I wonder how Microsoft knows if you pirated or know if your Windows is not genuine if you are using KMS or VLC Key? Microsoft publishes these keys on their website. You could use a pre-made activation servers that you can activate your VLC Licensed Windows offline on your own Network. So in theory Microsoft probably does not know if Windows has been illegitimately activated or not. I am wondering if the free upgrade is not available for VLC users.

The issue is that it's a forced activation. They may be cross referencing the activation keys. Since it will force you to connect to their servers, I'm betting there will be a check in place to see if the activation was, in fact, genuine.

The only reason I think this is true is because the KMS/Activator I used on Windows 8.1 cut me out from updates.

Yes, my key is now valid.

Really? Odd, I needed extra software to make it work on 8 and 8.1.

@Arecaidian Fox, if you right click on the iso, it'll give you a mount option.
 

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