Gaming Nintendo has explained why Splatoon has no voice chat.

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Lets be real, online voice chat basically boils down to teens screaming "Faggot" or "n****" at people.

So I can understand blocking voice chat publicly with randoms.

Though I don't see why voice chat shouldn't be allowed with registered friends at least.
I've played CoD, FIFA, GRID and other online games with voice chat and hadn't had this issue.

You people always bring up the negativity of voice chat as if that's what it's all about. It's like saying that PC gamers only pirate games and never buy them.
 
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It's like saying that PC gamers only pirate games and never buy them.
it's called TRY before you BUY!

i'll give you an example. i downloaded (yeah pirated) cities skylines at 1st. played it for about 1 week than bought it on steam. now i'm happily filling it with mods and play it every single day. :P

that motto that piracy is killing the industry is 100% BULLSHIT!!
 
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I've played CoD, FIFA, GRID and other online games with voice chat and hadn't had this issue.

You people always bring up the negativity of voice chat as if that's what it's all about. It's like saying that PC gamers only pirate games and never buy them.

You haven't had the issue but millions have. Im 99% sure that's the reason ninty never have voice chat.

Also I literally have only ever pirated PC games.
 

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it's called TRY before you BUY!

i'll give you an example. i downloaded (yeah pirated) cities skylines at 1st. played it for about 1 week than bought it on steam. now i'm happily filling it with mods and play it every single day. :P

that motto that piracy is killing the industry is 100% BULLSHIT!!

Two things, bud:

1) Read Wiicube's post again. The "as if" in the sentence you don't mention means that he's refering to something that is considered a truth but not actually is one. Just like another certain example. So before you start convincing him of the opposite, please realise he is NOT saying that PC gamers only pirate. Rather the opposite.
2) nice going with the generalisation, there. So you bought one game after pirating it, and that's supposed to completely prove that piracy doesn't harm the industry? Erm...no. By that same logic, I can prove that bank robbers don't exist because I never robbed one. Or countless other things, for that matter. :P
 

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I get the sentiment, and I'm definitely not the type of person that cares deeply about voice chat. But they should make it an option for those that do like it, just have two servers you can access when you start online, one with voice chat, one without, let the user decide what kind of experience they want online.

Having said that, this is far from a deal breaker for me personally, I'm still very excited For this game and online play.
 

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Sure, voice chat would have been nice, but when you consider this is an E-rated game and how kids these days actually act online, having online chat for this game in any form would put Nintendo in a very uncomfortable position, a position the media would have no problem jumping on to take down. If it were rated T or M, the addition of voice chat would be non-consequential because then the blame of how people act online wouldn't fall onto Nintendo by default.
 
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Sure, voice chat would have been nice, but when you consider this is an E-rated game and how kids these days actually act online, having online chat for this game in any form would put Nintendo in a very uncomfortable position, a position the media would have no problem jumping on to take down. If it were rated T or M, the addition of voice chat would be non-consequential because then the blame of how people act online wouldn't fall onto Nintendo by default.
Nintendo's a gaming company not god damn parents of brats, plus in that regard there's the fucking Parental Control feature to block them from accessing other content/features.

As long as Nintendo keeps this backwards mentality they'll never be looked as more than a kiddy console with crappy games and a ton of yearly Mario games.

2012
  1. New Super Mario Bros. U
  2. New Super Luigi U (reskinned NSMBU as if it were a Luigi game)
2013
  1. Super Mario 3D World
2014
  1. Mario Kart 8
2015
  1. Mario Party 10
  2. Mario Vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars
  3. Mario Maker
Wouldn't be surprised if they were yet to reveal another Mario game on the Wii U for this year.
 

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On that note though...

...if DeviantArt and the Splatoon's Fan service in general have taught me something, then that would be that there's a lot of weird people focusing on this franchise... believe me.

So I can imagine the things that could happen on this in game chats ...some scary old guys talking things to random young players that could make stuff like "Haaa! Feel my heavy paint load!" sound like it's Rated for Everyone content...


That makes me ~kinda understand Nintendo's point :P


still doesn't justify not having voice chat only for added friends though...
I did not want to believe it - until I saw some female inklings with boobs like Dolly Buster :wtf:

Why can't they just leave these innocent things alone?
 
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Let's be real here and imagine this from a legal standpoint:

What happens if parents don't know about parental controls (you scoff, but this happens with probably at least 75% of the parents of this generation of children)? They see that this is an "E-for-Everyone" title, and they're "little angel who wouldn't do anything wrong" has been begging for it for months, so the parents get it for him/her. The kid pops in the disk, goes online, and the parents walk in and hear a very racist/sexual conversation going on in voice chat. Now, the parents won't do anything to the child, because, you know, he/she OBVIOUSLY would NEVER engage in such scarring activities, so they go straight to the top and sue Nintendo for the ability to use the chat feature with total strangers (or at the very least not making the cover art "USE PARENTAL CONTROLS" in bold block letters)

Now I know that this definitely isn't the main reason that it was axed/not included in the first place, but I guarantee it was at least a key factor in the decision. Yes, it could have been handled better, but really, I don't blame them for wanting legal amnesty in this situation
 

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Let's be real here and imagine this from a legal standpoint:

What happens if parents don't know about parental controls (you scoff, but this happens with probably at least 75% of the parents of this generation of children)? They see that this is an "E-for-Everyone" title, and they're "little angel who wouldn't do anything wrong" has been begging for it for months, so the parents get it for him/her. The kid pops in the disk, goes online, and the parents walk in and hear a very racist/sexual conversation going on in voice chat. Now, the parents won't do anything to the child, because, you know, he/she OBVIOUSLY would NEVER engage in such scarring activities, so they go straight to the top and sue Nintendo for the ability to use the chat feature with total strangers (or at the very least not making the cover art "USE PARENTAL CONTROLS" in bold block letters)

Now I know that this definitely isn't the main reason that it was axed/not included in the first place, but I guarantee it was at least a key factor in the decision. Yes, it could have been handled better, but really, I don't blame them for wanting legal amnesty in this situation

Then what about the kids who play online on PlayStation and Xbox? I guess the parents of those have a better idea of what the Parental Control feature does and what kind of talks happen online.

If the next Nintendo home console keeps being that console that barely anyone looks up to then Nintendo won't stand a chance against PlayStation and Xbox.. again.
 

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Then what about the kids who play online on PlayStation and Xbox? I guess the parents of those have a better idea of what the Parental Control feature does and what kind of talks happen online.

If the next Nintendo home console keeps being that console that barely anyone looks up to then Nintendo won't stand a chance against PlayStation and Xbox.. again.

It's something entirely different on the PS and XBox because the games are clearly labeled "T for Teen" or "M for Mature", meaning that all legal responsibility falls upon the parents of the games for buying them for the kid (or the employee/store who sold it if they were underaged, but that isn't the developer's problem). And really, parental controls is an under-used feature even on the "mature" systems
 

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Let's be real here and imagine this from a legal standpoint:

What happens if parents don't know about parental controls (you scoff, but this happens with probably at least 75% of the parents of this generation of children)? They see that this is an "E-for-Everyone" title, and they're "little angel who wouldn't do anything wrong" has been begging for it for months, so the parents get it for him/her. The kid pops in the disk, goes online, and the parents walk in and hear a very racist/sexual conversation going on in voice chat. Now, the parents won't do anything to the child, because, you know, he/she OBVIOUSLY would NEVER engage in such scarring activities, so they go straight to the top and sue Nintendo for the ability to use the chat feature with total strangers (or at the very least not making the cover art "USE PARENTAL CONTROLS" in bold block letters)

Now I know that this definitely isn't the main reason that it was axed/not included in the first place, but I guarantee it was at least a key factor in the decision. Yes, it could have been handled better, but really, I don't blame them for wanting legal amnesty in this situation
Well children can use Google to search porn. Better sue Google for violating... what exactly?

Nobody can sue Nintendo and even reach a settlement because their 8 year old heard the word "n****."
 

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Nintendo's a gaming company not god damn parents of brats, plus in that regard there's the fucking Parental Control feature to block them from accessing other content/features.

I'm not talking about Nintendo taking on "parenthood" for the parents. I'm talking about how Nintendo would be put on display for having a game accessible by children (by law and regulation) that would contain the same toxic atmosphere as any online T/M-rated game from voice chat, whether or not things like Parental Controls or Mute button exist, and the media would be first on the scene.
 

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Look. None of this applies to voice chat with friends. I mean, sure people could exchange friend codes with kids and cuss them out, but they could also go on Wii U video chat an swap dick pics. If Nintendo wants to stop us from chatting with randoms in an E rated game, fine, but I want to be able to hop on with my friends and use the microphone BUILT INTO THE GAMEPAD ANYWAY to talk to them. Sitting next to a laptop to work together with my friends is unacceptable.
 

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Doesn't sound like a problem to me. Then again, I generally only do multiplayer offline. Sometimes I'll go online, but only with friends and we have our own Ventrilo server we use for voice.
 

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Well children can use Google to search porn. Better sue Google for violating... what exactly?

Nobody can sue Nintendo and even reach a settlement because their 8 year old heard the word "n****."

Once again, Google IS NOT RESPONSIBLE because to view pornographic images through Google, you have to verify that you are 18 when you turn off SafeSearch, and you have to verify that you are 18 upon entering most pornographic websites. If they were to not take such measures and a child accessed their website, the owners of the sites would be totally liable and could face either a lawsuit or a minimum of 5 years in prison for knowingly distributing pornography to minors.

As for the other, you wouldn't think so, but it's a weird world out there
 
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