Hacking Zelda Majora's Mask romc Compression

[kaepora]

I posted this in Jurai's romc thread, but realised it would be unlikely to be seen, as it's not very active...

I've been trying to inject the Collector's Edition of Majora's Mask into the official MM VC WAD, and the rom needs to be compressed form its full 32MB size to around 27MB (MM VC romc size).
But when I use the compression tool it reduces the rom to a tenth of it's size (32MB to about 3.3MB) - obviously this is too much (or little, you know what I mean). Any idea why?

Reason for doing this: I prefer the CE edition of MM to the original, and I don't want to use the GC disc if I don't have to. Obvious;y if anyone has tried this or has any other thoughts other than the actual problem above, do pipe up.
I've seen Master Quest injection WADs around - presumably ppl managed to pack the GC disc rom into the OoT WAD - was compression involved in that?

Advice on the compression issue would be handy though.

TIA and respect.

 

[funnystory]

Whats the difference?

 

[Bladexdsl]

exactly?

 

[KiiWii]

The only differences are the colors of the action buttons due to the GameCube's green A button and red B button and the pause screen's use and depiction of the L button as the left page scroller, as opposed to Z. Also, the manual states that due to the emulation some of the sounds have been altered from the originals. Aside from these, because it is only emulated (rather than altered for the new console), there are some timing discrepancies between the two consoles; some of the music sounds inaccurate on the GameCube and the frame rate is lower. The game also has a habit of freezing, unlike the Ocarina of Time port, causing unsaved data to be lost (this occurs much less often if the Rumble feature is off).[41] Despite these problems, the GameCube version has a cleaner look because it runs at a higher resolution than its Nintendo 64 counterpart.[41] In addition, the GameCube version supports component video connections and progressive scan (480p), and in PAL territories, 60 Hz.[41]

thank you wikipedia

 

[ganons]

eh what ios do u need to play?

 

[Bladexdsl]

none it's a VC game

 

[tj_cool]

VC games need IOS too
and 'Majoras mask' uses IOS53

 

[kaepora]

Higher res graphics (640x480 vs 320x240), button colours+L-target text (I know that's just cosmetic).

I really would like to know the problem with the compression though. It could affect other roms and I have no idea why it is doing this. It does it on other Zelda roms I've extracted from the GC discs as well.

 

[Bladexdsl]

i didn't need to install ANY ios when i put it on my wii from wad. i'm running 4.0 too and it's running off sd card.

 

[kaepora]

@ KiiWii: Me too slooow...

 

[Screemer]

every 'program' that runs on your wii needs a ios to communicate with its hardware. doesn't matter if it's sm, game, vc, wiiware. i guess the ios used by your the games in your wad-files got patched with 4.0 update.

 

[yadster]

Would running the original gamecube disc be the best option as you still have the rumble feature?

 

[apcarr]

The Master Quest WAD probably uses the N64 rom not the GC version.

 

[harryk]

I still don't understand ... WHY? The "official" Majora's WAD runs PERFECT and looks better than on N64, so why would you cry about button colors?

 

[JumpMan3]

You can try the "new vc injector" that lets u inject a rom no matter the size. I don't know if there is another injector that lets you do this.

http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=92049

You can try leaving the rom as is (32mb) and inject it in the the VC wad. Or if you pm me the file I could try it out for you.

 

[kaepora]

Jumpman3: Cheers, I'll try that.

apcarr: Was the Master Quest released other than on the Zelda Bonus disc? I thought that was the only release and so imagined it would be in the 'same' (similar) format as the Collectors Edition disc roms (inc. Maj Mask).

To others: it's just something I want to try. I don't understand why others want to do certain things, I let them be. If this can't be done or it plays like crap, fine, but i want to try.

 

[kaepora]

Both links are dead from 'NEW VC INJECTOR' thread, MegaUpload 'not found' (in German) and Mediafire doesn't get beyond 'Processing download'
Is it available anywhere else? (I have searched)

 

[JumpMan3]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KTNP9RLH

 

[Supertag]

It is my understanding that a .WAD file that uses a compressed ROM will require a compressed rom.

I was assuming before I read the entire topic that the problem was the ROM was a few KB too large and some subpar injector claimed it was too large.

Obviously, the issue here is the ROMC compressor is, for some reason, not functioning correctly. (as I assume 3.3MB is NOT a valid compressed ROM size for this game)


Ocarina of time did not use a compressed rom. You just replace the OOT rom with the OOT:MQ rom extracted from the "special promotion" GCN disk. No compression.

There is no such thing as "too large" for a N64 rom injection. The issue is nintendo's emulators are just abysmal at running other games.

For instance, I tried all of the WAD files out there and could not get Superman 64 to run on any of them .

 

[JumpMan3]

It is my understanding that a .WAD file that uses a compressed ROM will require a compressed rom.

I was assuming before I read the entire topic that the problem was the ROM was a few KB too large and some subpar injector claimed it was too large.

Obviously, the issue here is the ROMC compressor is, for some reason, not functioning correctly. (as I assume 3.3MB is NOT a valid compressed ROM size for this game)


Ocarina of time did not use a compressed rom. You just replace the OOT rom with the OOT:MQ rom extracted from the "special promotion" GCN disk. No compression.

There is no such thing as "too large" for a N64 rom injection. The issue is nintendo's emulators are just abysmal at running other games.

For instance, I tried all of the WAD files out there and could not get Superman 64 to run on any of them .

lol superman 64

anyway if thats the case, idk what to tell you tc. don't know much about romc compressor