Would this work to run "backups" using HANS? If not, why wouldn't it?

Discussion in '3DS - Homebrew Development and Emulators' started by flarn2006, Oct 26, 2015.

  1. flarn2006

    flarn2006 GBAtemp Fan

    Apr 6, 2014
    United States
    First of all, I'm not just asking this because I'm looking for a way to run roms. I have <9.2, so I can use CFW anyway. But I thought of two methods in which it might be possible to run "backups".

    I noticed that HANS is capable of redirecting both the code and the romfs for a game to the SD card. So what if you tell HANS to load one game in this way, but have the code and romfs for a different game on the SD card? Wouldn't it just overwrite the whole thing with the new game, letting you play it?

    The second way depends on when exactly the system checks signatures. Basically, since HANS bypasses the normal process of launching a game (which enables region free, among other things) I'm thinking it might let you run installed CIA's without needing a signature patch. As for actually installing the CIA's, we already know it's possible to load the eShop through HANS, and obviously that has the necessary access to install CIA's. So you could replace it with modified code that can load CIA's from the SD card, maybe even a completely different program, like FBI or DevMenu.

    Would either of these work? I'm assuming I'm probably wrong about something, considering if it worked, someone would probably have already figured it out. But there's always the chance that I'm the first to think of it, and even if it doesn't work, I'm still curious why it wouldn't, so I thought I'd post it here anyway.
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  2. XeR ッ

    XeR ッ Not sure if i still wanna be here.

    Aug 6, 2015
    It still needs the exefs , correct me if i'm wrong.
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  3. hippy dave

    hippy dave BBMB

    Apr 30, 2012
    United Kingdom
    The exefs contains the code (which you're trying to replace anyway), the icon (contains flags which may be relevant & might need to vaguely match), the banner (should be irrelevant) and the logo (should be irrelevant).

    Try it & report back I guess.
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  4. Pikasack

    Pikasack What is a title

    Apr 27, 2015
    If this works, then all we need to do is use braindump and we can play "backups"...
    This is gettin' scary!
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  5. neobrain

    neobrain -

    Apr 25, 2014
    Different games reserve different sizes for exefs and romfs. For instance, if game A reserves 1 MB for exefs and 2 MB for romfs, but game B needs 2 MB for exefs and only 1 MB for romfs, starting game A with B's data won't work since not enough exefs space is reserved. In reality, it's even more complicated than that because ExeFS is subdivided in subsections. There are more issues like this if you consider that each game has a particular set of service access privileges, etc.
  6. Acryt

    Acryt GBAtemp Fan

    Aug 22, 2015
    United States
    Might be, who knows. Smea 10000% didn't design for it to be used for such though, so it's unlikely he'll support it if it's used off his tool.
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  7. 101239

    101239 GBATemp Irregular

    Oct 25, 2015
    United States
    Maybe Somewhere near you? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
    Theres always one...
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  8. The Minish LAN

    The Minish LAN hi

    Sep 9, 2015
    If this works then we don't even need a Kernel
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