Windows 10

[filfat]

Because downloading it is a waste of my bandwidth and time.

bandwidth is infinit. so that isn't a problem

 

[Foxi4]

bandwidth is infinit. so that isn't a problem

Here's the thing - downloading Windows 10 will slow down my Internet speed for everything else for about 2-10 hours depending on the amount of seeds. I'm unwilling to go through that, I need that bandwidth for things I care about.

 

[the_randomizer]

Here's the thing - downloading Windows 10 will slow down my Internet speed for everything else for about 2-10 hours depending on the amount of seeds. I'm unwilling to go through that, I need that bandwidth for things I care about.

There are better things to use said bandwidth for sure

 

[Foxi4]

There are better things to use said bandwidth for sure

Dude, I'm playing Destiny right now. The servers are already packed to the point that you can get randomly disconnected, I don't need bandwidth problems on my end on top of that.

 

[the_randomizer]

Dude, I'm playing Destiny right now. The servers are already packed to the point that you can get randomly disconnected, I don't need bandwidth problems on my end on top of that.

No kidding, Ethernet or wireless?

 

[Foxi4]

No kidding, Ethernet or wireless?

Wireless, but it might as well be wired since my PS3 is about 2 meters away from my router.

 

[the_randomizer]

Wireless, but it might as well be wired since my PS3 is about 2 meters away from my router.

I've always had shit experience with wireless, so I went with Ethernet (much like my desktop and Wii U), I get 50 mbps upload and download thanks to Google, heh heh heh....

 

[Foxi4]

I've always had shit experience with wireless, so I went with Ethernet (much like my desktop and Wii U), I get 50 mbps upload and download thanks to Google, heh heh heh....

My PS3 is often moved around the house so I keep it set to wireless. I either use the telly in the living room (which is far from the router and I don't have an ethernet cable long enough) or the one in my room depending on whether or not my family is watching television. Ethernet is obviously better in terms of speed and stability since contrary to popular opinion, wireless protocols still suck.

 

[the_randomizer]

My PS3 is often moved around the house so I keep it set to wireless. I either use the telly in the living room (which is far from the router and I don't have an ethernet cable long enough) or the one in my room depending on whether or not my family watches television. Ethernet is obviously better in terms of speed and stability since contrary to popular opinion, wireless protocols still suck.

Yeah, the nature of wireless is that it will always be less reliable then using an Ethernet/CAT5 (or CAT6/RJ-45) cable, I can't trust wireless where I live, given that no one knows how to connect or set up a router properly at all, so they all interfere and screw with each other, making it a real PITA to deal with. Ethernet is much better for my purposes.

 

[loco365]

Why not trying it in a virtual machine?

I tried it in a VM and found it really laggy. I decided to install it on my potato of a secondary laptop (A Lenovo X61) and it runs half decently, actually, considering the limited resources (1GB ram, Intel Centrino vPro dual-core, and a 160GB hard drive that's partitioned three ways for 3 different operating systems) it has. At least it has full Wacom support right out of the box, though (The screen takes Wacom digitisers, which makes writing notes and shit in class a breeze!).

 

[FAST6191]

Yeah, the nature of wireless is that it will always be less reliable then using an Ethernet/CAT5 (or CAT6/RJ-45) cable, I can't trust wireless where I live, given that no one knows how to connect or set up a router properly at all, so they all interfere and screw with each other, making it a real PITA to deal with. Ethernet is much better for my purposes.

If you actually have enough of them within range to trouble each other (an impressive feat in a lot of the US, doubly so if you also have 5Ghz) and feel like living dangerously you might consider the extra two channels that not so many people use in the US (they are available I believe, just most say don't use them unless you potentially (depending upon power) want trouble with a passing FCC type) -- it is also why you might be asked where you are in the world when downloading/installing wifi drivers.

Mind you wired, or on occasion ethernet over powerline, is the way I like to roll. Really do need to get some proper gigabit switches though.

 

[the_randomizer]

If you actually have enough of them within range to trouble each other (an impressive feat in a lot of the US, doubly so if you also have 5Ghz) and feel like living dangerously you might consider the extra two channels that not so many people use in the US (they are available I believe, just most say don't use them unless you potentially (depending upon power) want trouble with a passing FCC type) -- it is also why you might be asked where you are in the world when downloading/installing wifi drivers.

Mind you wired, or on occasion ethernet over powerline, is the way I like to roll. Really do need to get some proper gigabit switches though.

Not gonna mess with the settings on the Google router, not my problem really, Ethernet works fine for me. 50 mbps up and down is what I get on wired.

 

[FAST6191]

Then don't mess with the settings on the google router (I am usually not inclined to have such toys without seeing all the settings menus and some hidden ones besides, with modern stuff it is even quite hard to break things), wire in an extra wireless router and fiddle with that.

 

[the_randomizer]

Then don't mess with the settings on the google router (I am usually not inclined to have such toys without seeing all the settings menus and some hidden ones besides, with modern stuff it is even quite hard to break things), wire in an extra wireless router and fiddle with that.

No need, already set up for my needs on my desktop and Wii U, all using Ethernet D

 

[FireEmblemGuy]

So just for shits and giggles I installed the TP over my Windows 7 SP1 installation on my school laptop. Spent an hour trying to get it set up for WiMAX again (since the school network isn't loaded into the default network list for Intel's connection manager) before I realized that all my program files had just been moved to Windows.old and not deleted.

It's good to see that they're taking feedback, because while I do like this, there're some really bizarre design choices. Sleep/hibernate/shutdown/restart are in one menu, while lock and sign out are in another entirely. Sleep wasn't even an option in the initial build, and for whatever reason, despite copying from better operating systems and desktop environments, I still can't set it to lock the screen if I close my laptop. Still have to go through the Test Mode bullshit before you can run unsigned drivers, which was the one thing that bugged me the most about Windows 8, other than the menu that popped up if you moved your mouse to the right side of the screen.

Other than that, all I can really complain about is the fact that CoreTemp basically locks up the computer after a minute or so of trying to run it, even though obscure and likely problematic stuff runs fine (particularly tools for interfacing with Chinese Android phones with MTK processors). Everything's fluid, it's lighter on RAM than the Win7 installation was by a good deal (although the lack of university-branded bloatware and Kaspersky AV might have something to do with that, I'm still running a gig or two lighter on average), boots even quicker than Win8 did on a better machine than this, and from what I've tried, windowed Metro apps are pretty smooth.

 

[Jayro]

If it has the Metro UI at the start up, then, no, and only when I'm forced to update, will I update.

If Metro is default, then I will be editing the .wim files so that it auto-boots into the desktop and I'll release it publicly. It's not piracy either, since you need to purchase a license for it to work past the time period it gives you.

 

[nl255]

If Metro is default, then I will be editing the .wim files so that it auto-boots into the desktop and I'll release it publicly. It's not piracy either, since you need to purchase a license for it to work past the time period it gives you.

On a new install the default is to boot into the desktop with the new start menu which is similar to Windows 7 but slightly different as there is no run command or shutdown on it (you have to right click to get the shut down computer options and presumably there is a way to get a run command on the menu).

So far the only big problem I have had is that the virtualbox additions don't work (and will cause the VM to lock up if you install them in Windows 8 compatibility mode) but it shouldn't take too long for those to be updated. Note that I had to disable EFI to get it to install and boot properly.

 

[FireEmblemGuy]

On a new install the default is to boot into the desktop with the new start menu which is similar to Windows 7 but slightly different as there is no run command or shutdown on it (you have to right click to get the shut down computer options and presumably there is a way to get a run command on the menu).

You can right-click on the Start icon for Run or the power menu; alternatively, you can search for the Run command and pin it to the Start Menu, and the power options are still available in the Start menu - they're just consolidated into a power icon at the top rather than the classic menu near the bottom.

As for Metro: not only does it boot to the standard desktop at start, I can't even figure out how to enter Metro mode - all Win8 apps start fullscreen with a window control bar on top; the closest I can find to the ugly tile interface is being able to pin said tiles onto the start menu.

 

[nl255]

You can right-click on the Start icon for Run or the power menu; alternatively, you can search for the Run command and pin it to the Start Menu, and the power options are still available in the Start menu - they're just consolidated into a power icon at the top rather than the classic menu near the bottom.

As for Metro: not only does it boot to the standard desktop at start, I can't even figure out how to enter Metro mode - all Win8 apps start fullscreen with a window control bar on top; the closest I can find to the ugly tile interface is being able to pin said tiles onto the start menu.

Try right clicking on the taskbar, going to the start menu tab, and unchecking the "use the start menu instead of the start screen" option.

 

[FireEmblemGuy]

So the newest build doesn't seem to have changed a whole lot, but it seems to rip even more from other popular desktops and window managers - new maximizing/minimizing/closing animations, plus an obviously-beta notification tray/pop-up system that doesn't completely blow and acts very similar to the type most GNOME-based desktops seem to be using.

But I still can't get my screen to lock when I close the lid. Get your shit together, Microsoft.

A couple examples of the revamped notification system, for anyone interested. These are from Elpis, which hasn't updated in close to two years, so I guess anything that supports traditional Windows notifications will pop these up? It's pretty neat, anyways, compared to the annoying tray 'bubble' system that's been a pain in the ass forever.