Gaming Wii Zapper is ridiculous

[Bob Loblaw]

The new wii zapper looks ridiculous to me. It is just a piece of plastic so that you can hold the wii remote and nunchuk in the shape of a gun. You could hold them in that position without the "zapper" if you really wanted. The whole thing with nintendo wii is that the wiimote itself IS a "wii zapper"

anyone else agree? or is anyone actualy looking forward to it? anyone actually going to spend money on it? what are your thoughts


edit: i also just realized you won't even be able to use for it many games because the motions they require you to do. red steel for example a game where you do shoot a lot but then you would have to take it all apart to do some of the sword moves that require you to crisscross the controllers

 

[shaunj66]

I completely agree with what you said. It's just for novelty purposes... Doesn't serve any real use at all. Like you said, you can just hold them in the same position for the same "effect."

One of the main reasons the Wii was so exciting is because of how the Wiimote can act like a gun in your hand.. Now this Zapper thing is just taking it 10 steps backwards.

 

[Icarus]

And other thing is, when you use the zapper, you'll only have access to 3 buttons[B, C and Z] and the analog stick. How exactly are you going to play games with 3 buttons ? You can only play games like Resident Evil: UC and other rail-on shooters, but otherwise, it's pretty useless. Besides I can aim just fine with one hand, without the need of a zapper.

 

[squeakypants]

You don't get it... the point is to make it feel like you're pointing and shooting a gun, versus just rotating your wrist. All it needs to be is a piece of plastic

That said, the zapper is really fucked up ergonomically. I complained about it on another forum awhile ago:

That thing is pretty horrible.

I don't know first hand, but it looks uncomfortable as hell. Why? Look at a normal submachine gun:

Notice anything? That's right, the trigger is on the back hand! That's because with a long-gun, you have your main hand in the back on the trigger, off hand in the front for aim and support. Instead, both aim and trigger is handled by your front hand, meaning both tasks are using your primary hand. Then your offhand is on the analog stick, most likely your left even if you're left-handed because movement is always handed with your left hand on game controllers.

So pretty much, they have you holding the gun left-handedly and you shoot with the wrong hand. Who designed that contraption?

Oh yea and why not at least add at least some kind of actual functionality, like a shotgun pump or something? I think reloading by moving the entire piece back in the air wouldn't be immersive.

There are 2 ways they could have done it:
a) back hand has trigger, front hand has analog stick (instead of just being a shell, you just wouldn't use the nunchuka)
b) 1-handed gun, use nunchuka like normal

What happened, Nintendo?

http://theboard.zogdog.com/index.php?showtopic=20001

Personally, I'll get one of the knockoff pistols for the same price (but without Zelda Duck Hunt) as long as it's still compatible with RE:UC and MoHH2.

 

[Pigwooly]

Seeing as it's only 20 bucks for the Wii Zapper and it comes with the Zelda Crossbow game, not only am I getting it, but I'm really looking forward to it. Why? I love Zelda and I love on rails shooters. (I know most people hate them, but most people are idiots)

Note: It does look shitty compared to the prototype, but it's dirt cheap so whatever. Personally, I don't wanna judge it till I tried it. Tons of people said the wiimote wouldn't work well and the DS was gonna be gimmicky crap, but they turned out awesome.

 

[Killian]

I was hoping they'd come up with an all new Wiimote for shooters......... instead of having to connect the current one as no matter how cost effective it may be it kind of limits the games.......... why can't they just bring out a normal gun so I can play the shoot em ups like the good ol time crisis and house of the dead.

The wiimote works but it hardly feels like holding a gun now does it!

And with that wiizapper, your gonna have to shoot from just above the hip unless you want arm ache after the first half hour......... come on nintendo.........!!!!!!

 

[webjedi]

The new wii zapper looks ridiculous to me.

I'll probably get one cause I got all the other Wii crap... but you know what looks like the worst part. Hooking up the pieces!!! Ok the Wii remote snaps on the top, but then it looks like you hook the Nunchuka on the back and have to thread the wire through the back, and store the extra wire in the middle storage area and plug it in. So not something to do quickly but a few minute project to set it up for each use. PITA!!!

 

[Pigwooly]

And with that wiizapper, your gonna have to shoot from just above the hip unless you want arm ache after the first half hour......... come on nintendo.........!!!!!!

My couch and TV are set up perfect so I can sit on it and aim the Wiimote at a perfect level comfortably. I won't have any problems

I can even rest my elbows on my knees.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

yeah it would be ok for on-rail shooters (and umbrella chronicles is a game i'm very much looking forward to) but i'm not going to spend an extra 20 dollars to play it ,like shaunj said its a back step for nintendo

they should have just made a whole new gun like killian said

 

[amptor]

finally an official one.. I thought the 3rd party ones were fine, this one looks kinda weird..reminds me of the super scope 6 which didn't do too well..but at least this time it's only 20 bucks, that's close to nothing especially with the current value of a $20 in the usa. our money is nearly matching canadain money which means my bank account is totally worthless.

 

[Pigwooly]

You don't get it... the point is to make it feel like you're pointing and shooting a gun, versus just rotating your wrist. All it needs to be is a piece of plastic

That said, the zapper is really fucked up ergonomically. I complained about it on another forum awhile ago:

That thing is pretty horrible.

I don't know first hand, but it looks uncomfortable as hell. Why? Look at a normal submachine gun:

Notice anything? That's right, the trigger is on the back hand! That's because with a long-gun, you have your main hand in the back on the trigger, off hand in the front for aim and support. Instead, both aim and trigger is handled by your front hand, meaning both tasks are using your primary hand. Then your offhand is on the analog stick, most likely your left even if you're left-handed because movement is always handed with your left hand on game controllers.

So pretty much, they have you holding the gun left-handedly and you shoot with the wrong hand. Who designed that contraption?

Oh yea and why not at least add at least some kind of actual functionality, like a shotgun pump or something? I think reloading by moving the entire piece back in the air wouldn't be immersive.

There are 2 ways they could have done it:
a) back hand has trigger, front hand has analog stick (instead of just being a shell, you just wouldn't use the nunchuka)
b) 1-handed gun, use nunchuka like normal

What happened, Nintendo?
http://theboard.zogdog.com/index.php?showtopic=20001

Personally, I'll get one of the knockoff pistols for the same price (but without Zelda Duck Hunt) as long as it's still compatible with RE:UC and MoHH2.

I think you need to think of it more like a pistol. Just don't hold it firmly with the left hand. Aim and shoot with the right hand, like a handgun (if you're right handed) and use your left hand on the nunchuck, but I wouldn't firmly grip the damn thing with my left hand. Just sort of rest it there. Think of it like a messed up pistol with extra crap on the back. The nunchuck is the Hammer and the part with the grip and trigger is the part with the grip and trigger on a normal gun. It's far from an ideal design I agree, but I think it'll be better than nothing. At least for on rails shooters. We'll see though, Nintendo has about a 50/50 track record of brilliance to pure crap.

Also, their prototype shotgun looked way better. Guess I'm the only one looking forward to this (although mainly for the free game that comes with it.)

 

[Upperleft]

i use a deferent version of it ..
and it's not from nintendo

it's better cuz the nunchuck is much closer and you can press
any button you want

well,, i'm using it for MP3 =P

lol, kinda weird and disturbing
but cool i think =D

 

[superrob]

And other thing is, when you use the zapper, you'll only have access to 3 buttons[B, C and Z] and the analog stick. How exactly are you going to play games with 3 buttons ? You can only play games like Resident Evil: UC and other rail-on shooters, but otherwise, it's pretty useless. Besides I can aim just fine with one hand, without the need of a zapper.

Well Call Of Duty 3 has would work

 

[Da Foxx]

No one is going to make you buy it. You don't want to buy it fine. You don't have to. Its great that Nintendo is putting out stuff like these. For one I'm looking to buy this even though its just a piece of plastic. The overall experience changes if you ever have played shooter games at an arcade you would understand.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

i have a dreamcast with a light gun and time crisis and dynamite cop and house of the dead 2

the wii zapper is silly compared to that one i think, i think they rushed the design

 

[cubin']

yeah it's pretty stupid but I'll end up buying it for zelda crossbow training.


DS light gun-like games don't feel anything like the real thing and the cursor lags a bit

 

[T-hug]

lol what an absolute PoS! Got to be the worst video game peripheral ever, even worse than that flimsy Zelda Sword Shield PoS. Seems were not the only ones who think so either, hope to see something on this on penny arcade lol.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

LOL @ piece of shit alert do not buy this if you value your sanity! haha that's the best

 

[WK416]

The sad part is that it isn't ridiculous enough for some people.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/cold-dead-hands/n...pper-300046.php