Thoughts on Proto stealth server?

[AATHENINJA206]

Hey everyone.
Has anyone ever used Proto stealth server? If you have, what were your experiences with it?
I've heard that not many consoles have been banned using this stealth server but I still think its a risk considering it's free.
What are your thoughts on this subject?

 

[godreborn]

heard there was some stealth server that you had to compile, but you need the xdk to do so. there's a torrent with every xdk leaked, and it's around 80GBs supposedly. I don't have it though. not sure if there's a homebrew xdk or not.

 

[godreborn]

btw, I heard that it's easy to unban yourself anyway as clean kv's are cheap as hell now. I think that's the way the stealth servers work. you connect to them through a plugin and dashlaunch, then it sends a clean kv to microsoft's servers. it's unlikely you'll be banned unless your kv is connected directly to microsoft. that's not how these stealth servers are supposed to work unless that one is pure shit.

 

[AATHENINJA206]

btw, I heard that it's easy to unban yourself anyway as clean kv's are cheap as hell now. I think that's the way the stealth servers work. you connect to them through a plugin and dashlaunch, then it sends a clean kv to microsoft's servers. it's unlikely you'll be banned unless your kv is connected directly to microsoft. that's not how these stealth servers are supposed to work unless that one is pure shit.

I did test it for 2 days, no bans, but I was scared as hell!

 

[godreborn]

I don't know if there's a way to check if a kv is banned beyond signing in, so it would be difficult for those banned users to tell if their kv got banned or the stealth server's. and, if they signed in just to check, ban most likely.

 

[AATHENINJA206]

I don't know if there's a way to check if a kv is banned beyond signing in, so it would be difficult for those banned users to tell if their kv got banned or the stealth server's. and, if they signed in just to check, ban most likely.

How likely is it to get banned if you sign in with your profile on the Xbox Dashboard?

 

[godreborn]

I've heard that it can take anywhere from a few minutes up to five hours after sign in. I think it will be the moment you sign in that you're pretty much banned, unless microsoft no longer cares about the 360. I wouldn't risk it if I were you.

 

[AATHENINJA206]

I've heard that it can take anywhere from a few minutes up to five hours after sign in. I think it will be the moment you sign in that you're pretty much banned, unless microsoft no longer cares about the 360. I wouldn't risk it if I were you.

What if you try with a stealth server? Same outcome?

 

[godreborn]

your kv isn't supposed to reach microsoft's servers with a stealth server. it uses a clean kv, so you shouldn't be banned. even if that kv is banned somehow, it won't affect your system.

 

[godreborn]

you can get your kv with jrunner (possibly xebuild gui) or kv modder. you need the cpu key as the kv is encrypted, once you decrypt it, you don't need the cpu key anymore. in both cases, it requires a backup of your nand.

 

[AATHENINJA206]

your kv isn't supposed to reach microsoft's servers with a stealth server. it uses a clean kv, so you shouldn't be banned. even if that kv is banned somehow, it won't affect your system

I could try with an unused Xbox Live account that I made a few years ago, just sync some cloud saves, download some title updates and see how it goes. Even if I get banned I can unban the console using another kV, right?

 

[godreborn]

yes, but I don't know the instructions on injecting a new kv. I just know that you can.

 

[AATHENINJA206]

yes, but I don't know the instructions on injecting a new kv. I just know that you can.

Well, I cant find out if this stealth server is good or not until I try it. Let me give it a go and see.

 

[AATHENINJA206]

Well, I cant find out if this stealth server is good or not until I try it. Let me give it a go and see.

Just one more thing I forgot to ask, could your account get banned by using a stealth server? Could Microsoft detect that?

 

[godreborn]

I don't know. I don't know if they ban accounts or not.

 

[godreborn]

I think the account is based on the xuid, so that they could ban. you can get your xuid from grabbing the profile file (forgot the exact location, but it's in the content folder somewhere).

 

[CompSciOrBust]

btw, I heard that it's easy to unban yourself anyway as clean kv's are cheap as hell now. I think that's the way the stealth servers work. you connect to them through a plugin and dashlaunch, then it sends a clean kv to microsoft's servers. it's unlikely you'll be banned unless your kv is connected directly to microsoft. that's not how these stealth servers are supposed to work unless that one is pure shit.

Idk how they work now but I heard in the early days of xbls they would have rooms filled with modded 360s running special firmwares modified just enough to grab stuff from memory but not enough to cause a ban. A system would connect to XBL to generate an auth token, send it back to the client requesting access, then reboot itself asap to generate another token for the next guy. I'm not sure if your KV was ever actually used or if the stealth people would use the KVs on their machines so there was no need to use your own KV.

 

[godreborn]

Idk how they work now but I heard in the early days of xbls they would have rooms filled with modded 360s running special firmwares modified just enough to grab stuff from memory but not enough to cause a ban. A system would connect to XBL to generate an auth token, send it back to the client requesting access, then reboot itself asap to generate another token for the next guy. I'm not sure if your KV was ever actually used or if the stealth people would use the KVs on their machines so there was no need to use your own KV.

afaik, they've always been used. though, I don't know about the early days of stealth servers. perhaps @brickmii82 or @DinohScene know for sure.

 

[godreborn]

I'll tag @CoolMe as well. he's knowledgeable about the 360 too.

 

[brickmii82]

I've used Ninja for the past few years when I went online for research and had good KV life and relatively trouble free connecting.

If it's free I guess I'll look it up, for research...

Edit: Yes if you get a console ban it's likely the account will get banned also. Doesn't always happen but when it doesn't it's the exception, not the rule. Most people make burner accounts and also get Gold live codes for games that can't be spoofed.