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Let's not talk about whether it is a mental disorder or not, but for the sake of this argument, let's assume it is.

So what? Those people still exist. It doesn't matter why. And they didn't choose this. Can you really judge them for something they have no control of?

Well the difference is people with mental disorders are treated, whereas gender confusion is being embraced. I think that's primarily the argument of people who call it a mental disorder. It should be "treated" not "embraced".
 

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what monstrosity have you created.

My opinion: There are TWO genders. I don't believe the shit about "needing support because I don't feel comfortable". Deal with what God gave you. You have no other choice. Those people just want to be different. Being lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender/sexual, queer, asexual, ansexual, pansexual, a different gender besides the existing TWO, all of that is a mental disorder that we should stop in its tracks. The bible tells stories about a man who offered up his daughter to any man who would take her and have sex with her as long as they stopped fucking other men. Then that city was destroyed. Our world and petty existence will soon be over. We are headed down the same track.

You asked for my thoughts, you got em. Not don't bitch about them not meeting your requirements to be correct. Get over it and start maturing.
The Bible isn't evidence to use against gender nor sexuality. Not everyone believes nor cares what the Bible thinks of them
 

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In my opinion- I don't care what you are, as long as your go to the washrooms intended for your respective reproductive systems. And not come in my way, in the name of your 'rights'.
 
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I fell like so much people in this post just don't get it. We are not talking about biological genders but about how a person feels. And no, you cannot say something about how people feel.

In other hand and answering to the post, in Spanish we have a problem about this topic. You see I have a genderfluid friend and I talked about this with this one.
In spanish we have three genders, just like in any romance language: male, female, and neutral. The thing is the male and the neutral are mostly the same.

I'll illustrate it with examples: If a want to talk about a male alumn, i'd say "alumno", and if it's a female alumn, i'd say "alumna".
As you can see, the las sufix, the vocal "o " or "a" stands for the genere. The thing is that if I'm going to talk about multiple alumns of both generes, I'd still say "alumnos", and the same if they are enterly male alumns, but I'd say "alumnas" if they are all female.

What I wanna say is my friend claims that this plural is not really non-binary (or neutral) because is just the same as the male one. My friend said (as many people try to), it's better to use "elle", that doesn't really exists in this lenguage. So that way, we should say "alumnes". I don't feel like it's really necessary since we already have a neutral gender, but the problem is most of people asume that it's male.

I don't know, maybe it's a question of how the sintax is learnt in the school, and maybe it has to be teached in other way in order to use it and understand it in the proper way.

Or at least that's what I think about it. But I still feel like they have more right to decide how to call them, even if we share the same language. In some way, this topic pisses me off.
 
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I fell like so much people in this post just don't get it. We are not talking about biological genders but about how a person feels. And no, you cannot say something about how people feel.

In other hand and answering to the post, in Spanish we have a problem about this topic. You see I have a genderfluid friend and I talked about this with this one.
In spanish we have three genders, just like in any romance language: male, female, and neutral. The thing is the male and the neutral are mostly the same.

I'll illustrate it with examples: If a want to talk about a male alumn, i'd say "alumno", and if it's a female alumn, i'd say "alumna".
As you can see, the las sufix, the vocal "o " or "a" stands for the genere. The thing is that if I'm going to talk about multiple alumns of both generes, I'd still say "alumnos", and the same if they are enterly male alumns, but I'd say "alumnas" if they are all female.

What I wanna say is my friend claims that this plural is not really non-binary (or neutral) because is just the same as the male one. My friend said (as many people try to), it's better to use "elle", that doesn't really exists in this lenguage. So that way, we should say "alumnes". I don't feel like it's really necessary since we already have a neutral gender, but the problem is most of people asume that it's male.

I don't know, maybe it's a question of how the sintax is learnt in the school, and maybe it has to be teached in other way in order to use it and understand it in the proper way.

Or at least that's what I think about it. But I still feel like they have more right to decide how to call them, even if we share the same language. In some way, this topic pisses me off.
Trust me, I know what you mean. The Czech language literally does not have a way of staying gender neutral. We don't have neutral pronouns. So, you pretty much have to assume a gender if you don't know who you are talking about.

Example: This is a student. This is HIS bag.

Yes, you have to say it that way. because we don't have a "they" pronoun or anything like that. (They is exclusive to plural in this language. Now, you might think you can just say the sentence in plural form, but you really can't. It won't make sense if you do.)

So... yeah. It's difficult.
 

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Trust me, I know what you mean. The Czech language literally does not have a way of staying gender neutral. We don't have neutral pronouns. So, you pretty much have to assume a gender if you don't know who you are talking about.

Example: This is a student. This is HIS bag.

Yes, you have to say it that way. because we don't have a "they" pronoun or anything like that. (They is exclusive to plural in this language. Now, you might think you can just say the sentence in plural form, but you really can't. It won't make sense if you do.)

So... yeah. It's difficult.
French is worse than what you describe. The plural pronoun that translates to "they" is gendered too (comes in masculine and feminine forms) :P
 

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Trust me, I know what you mean. The Czech language literally does not have a way of staying gender neutral. We don't have neutral pronouns. So, you pretty much have to assume a gender if you don't know who you are talking about.

Example: This is a student. This is HIS bag.

Yes, you have to say it that way. because we don't have a "they" pronoun or anything like that. (They is exclusive to plural in this language. Now, you might think you can just say the sentence in plural form, but you really can't. It won't make sense if you do.)

So... yeah. It's difficult.
Wow it's a lit diferent because we do have neutral (it's the same as the male, but still neutral), but it makes it even more dificult.
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French is worse than what you describe. The plural pronoun that translates to "they" is gendered too (comes in masculine and feminine forms) :P
I think it does works like in spanish. Oh mean I feel so bad. I think it's just a matter of education so people can understand this prural is not gendered even if it looks like it's, but it's just so dificult.
 
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Why the fuck do humans have to put labels on everything?? The only label that counts is that we are all human beings. I don't give a flying fuck if you are a man/woman/trans/black/white/straight/gay/bi and all the other labels we put on people if you are nice to me I will be nice to you its as simple as that.
 

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Why the fuck do humans have to put labels on everything?? The only label that counts is that we are all human beings. I don't give a flying fuck if you are a man/woman/trans/black/white/straight/gay/bi and all the other labels we put on people if you are nice to me I will be nice to you its as simple as that.
Well I do use labels when I'm programming an UI (pun intended).
 

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French is worse than what you describe. The plural pronoun that translates to "they" is gendered too (comes in masculine and feminine forms) :P
Wow it's a lit diferent because we do have neutral (it's the same as the male, but still neutral), but it makes it even more dificult.
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I think it does works like in spanish. Oh mean I feel so bad. I think it's just a matter of education so people can understand this prural is not gendered even if it looks like it's, but it's just so dificult.


Are we comparing languages now? OK, my turn again.

Every single noun is gendered. (Table is male, chair is female.)

Verbs change their last letter based of the gender of the subject in the sentence.

"I" and "me" are gendered as well. (Male and female forms)
 
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I love that. People don't realize that in France for example, saying things like @blujay did can be worth of a €40k fee and prison sentence. Murica can really be a land of jerks (yeah, the "land of liberty" who elected Trump and teach kids that evolution is "only a theory"). In France, you can get fired from your school from having any religious sign or politically-connoted T-Shirt or whatever.

Also about that, I hate that complicated mess about people who wanna invent categories to whioch nobody understand anything. I mean, there are homosexuel or heterosexual people, as well as bisexual people. That's for sexual orientation. There are also transgender people, whose "brain-gender" and "body-gender" are different. OK then. But when I hear about LGBTQ++DZEGEFZBVZ--+&Knuckles, I just don't get it. Let's just keep simple categories, which are of course not perfect, instead of wanting to create a category for every single person's nature/preference. There will always be some exceptions, but we don't want such bullshit. To answer OP, no, I find these to be utterly bullshit. And don't get me wrong, I hate homophobia. But when I hear some who want to shove their sexual orientation (which is private btw) down my throat, I hate that.

Also, there's something I'd like to ask: why does everyone seem to associate being gay/bi with being transgender or cross-dressing?
 
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Hate to say this because of all the sand/salt I'll be getting, but for me there's only two genders.
I can understand that you can feel as a female or male or an attack helicopter even if you have a dick or vag, but don't hate me for being and consider me as a male and try to rub your gender on mah stupid face
I've seen some people say "My gender is pansexual". Really? so my "gender" is straight and not male? K thn thx m8
You can start hating on me
 
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Are we comparing languages now? OK, my turn again.

Every single noun is gendered. (Table is male, chair is female.)

Verbs change their last letter based of the gender of the subject in the sentence.

"I" and "me" are gendered as well. (Male and female forms)
Well no, not really. Latin had 3 genders, and latin-evolved languages mostly still have them. This does includes Frech and Spanish.
 
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Are we comparing languages now? OK, my turn again.

Every single noun is gendered. (Table is male, chair is female.)

Verbs change their last letter based of the gender of the subject in the sentence.

"I" and "me" are gendered as well. (Male and female forms)

Actually, it's the same in France. But chair and table are both female :P Verbs only get gendered (besides he/she, and 'it' doesnt exist) in some weird circumstances. French is really one of the most bullshit languages on earth.

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Hate to say this because of all the sand/salt I'll be getting, but for me there's only two genders.
I can understand that you can feel as a female or male or an attack helicopter even if you have a dick or vag, but don't hate me for being and consider me as a male and try to rub your gender on mah stupid face
I've seen some people say "My gender is pansexual". Really? so my "gender" is straight and not male? K thn thx m8
You can start hating on me
Actually, it depends on your def' of gender.
 

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Hate to say this because of all the sand/salt I'll be getting, but for me there's only two genders.
I can understand that you can feel as a female or male or an attack helicopter even if you have a dick or vag, but don't hate me for being and consider me as a male and try to rub your gender on mah stupid face
I've seen some people say "My gender is pansexual". Really? so my "gender" is straight and not male? K thn thx m8
You can start hating on me
But oh well, you know we are talking about how people feel, not what you are biologically, right? I mean, we are talking about what a person is, not what it looks like. Or at least that's what I understood from the OP.

I like women and shemales and eventually suck some dicks.

In which gender do I fit?
I don't know, what you said doesn't even have anything to do about your gender lmao
 
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