Gaming Thinking of installing Origin for BF3?

[prowler]

If you read the End User License Agreement for Origin it states that by installing Origin you're giving EA the right to monitor your PC and to make a profile of you, including what programs you have installed (and whether you have any illegally downloaded material), what websites you use, etc., and that EA reserves the right to share or sell this information to third parties.

Source

Origin EULAYou agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol 37683v1 Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware, that may be gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software updates, dynamically served content, product support and other services to you, including online services. EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you. IF YOU DO NOT WANT EA TO COLLECT, USE, STORE, TRANSMIT OR DISPLAY THE DATA DESCRIBED IN THIS SECTION, PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THE APPLICATION.[/p]Source

Spoiler: Also Steams EULA if you want to pull this card

"User Generated Information" means any information made available to other users through your use of multi-user features of Steam or to Valve through your use of the Software. User Generated Information may include, but is not limited to, chat, forum posts, screen names, game selections, player performances, usage data, suggestions about Valve products or services, and error notifications. Subject to the Valve privacy policy referenced in Section 1 above, as applicable, you expressly grant Valve the complete and irrevocable right to use, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, distribute, transmit, broadcast, and otherwise communicate, and publicly display and perform the User Generated Information and derivative works thereof in any form, anywhere, with or without attribution to you, and without any notice or compensation to you of any kind.[/p]Source

Another reason why Steam > Origin.

 

[machomuu]

I already have Origin. Not that I want it, but The Sims 3 demands it.

Anyway, WTF? They can sell the information? That sounds illegal, even when apart of a contract.

 

[Zetta_x]

And what information are they selling? It clearly says in a form that does not personally identify you. I suspect they are just building usage statistics.

 

[prowler]

And what information are they selling? It clearly says in a form that does not personally identify you. I suspect they are just building usage statistics.

Still doesn't give them the right to spy and collect data outside of Origin.

 

[machomuu]

And what information are they selling? It clearly says in a form that does not personally identify you. I suspect they are just building usage statistics.
QUOTEincluding what programs you have installed (and whether you have any illegally downloaded material), what websites you use, etc., and that EA reserves the right to share or sell this information to third parties.

Personally or not, I don't like it.

 

[Zetta_x]

So many programs collect usage statistics. The first paragraph in this article is just an interpretation of the EULA (it's not what it actually says and they are just speculating).

 

[PettingZoo]

Origin EULAYou agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol 37683v1 Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware, that may be gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software updates, dynamically served content, product support and other services to you, including online services. EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services.We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you. IF YOU DO NOT WANT EA TO COLLECT, USE, STORE, TRANSMIT OR DISPLAY THE DATA DESCRIBED IN THIS SECTION, PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THE APPLICATION.[/p]

"User Generated Information" means any information made available to other users through your use of multi-user features of Steam or to Valve through your use of the Software. User Generated Information may include, but is not limited to, chat, forum posts, screen names, game selections, player performances, usage data, suggestions about Valve products or services, and error notifications. Subject to the Valve privacy policy referenced in Section 1 above, as applicable, you expressly grant Valve the complete and irrevocable right to use, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, distribute, transmit, broadcast, and otherwise communicate, and publicly display and perform the User Generated Information and derivative works thereof in any form, anywhere, with or without attribution to you, and without any notice or compensation to you of any kind.

Another reason why Steam > Origin.

QUOTE(Zetta_x @ Aug 23 2011, 06:41 PM)

And what information are they selling? It clearly says in a form that does not personally identify you. I suspect they are just building usage statistics.

Still doesn't give them the right to spy and collect data outside of Origin.

Uhh, you do realize you're contradicting yourself right? Steam collects loads of data ranging from the specifications of peoples computers and networks to the programs people use, if you're saying that EA doesn't have the right to 'spy' and collect data outside of Origin, what gives Valve the right to do so with Steam? You've posted two EULA's from Valve and EA (in regards to Steam and Origin) which are pretty much identical, both stating that they will collect data, and both stating that they reserve the right to transmit and distribute said information with no personal identification.

I'm sorry, but this is perhaps the silliest thing I've seen all week, did you even read what you were posting? Take a little peek at the picture below.

Spoiler: Steam's data collection

 

[Deleted User]

Steam collects data all the time, how else would they have data on the player base with system specs.

 

[Armadillo]

*Grabs tinfoil hat*

 

[Minox]

Steam collects data all the time, how else would they have data on the player base with system specs.

They have a survey that pops up every now and again that collects your data, but they always ask for confirmation before they send the data and at that point you can just cancel it.

 

[prowler]

TL;DRSteam doesn't collect data outside the application except for that survey.
Steam EULA saysQUOTEUser Generated Information may include, but is not limited to, chat, forum posts, screen names, game selections, player performances, usage data, suggestions about Valve products or services, and error notifications.

So really, anything you do on their severs is collected which happens pretty much everywhere while Origin collects data outside of the application.

 

[Minox]

TL;DRSteam doesn't collect data outside the application.
Steam EULA saysQUOTEUser Generated Information may include, but is not limited to, chat, forum posts, screen names, game selections, player performances, usage data, suggestions about Valve products or services, and error notifications.

So really, anything you do on their severs is collected which happens pretty much everywhere while Origin collects data outside of the application.

Actually, Steam does collect information on what applications are installed through the above mentioned survey, but they do not force you to complete the survey and send the data to them.

 

[kevan]

Meh I dont care, aslong as I get to play BF3 (since I already preordered it).

Be crap if they passed certain info to my ISP though

 

[Deleted User]

Meh I dont care, aslong as I get to play BF3 (since I already preordered it).

Be crap if they passed certain info to my ISP though

I'm sure its more for hardware and software uses than porn, you're safe.