Tesla Cybertruck

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Funny, but it isn't like the ball went through.
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No its funny because for months Musk has being saying you could throw absolutely anything at this new glass and it would just bounce off without leaving a mark. That clearly never happened.
 
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No its funny because for months Musk has being saying you could throw absolutely anything at this new glass and it would just bounce off without leaving a mark. That clearly never happened.

Yeah, that was pretty funny. Though, normal bullet proof glass will shatter when you throw large objects at it. Something to do with the amount of area being impacted. It works just fine for small bullets. Not sure about why that is though.
 

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It looks pretty cool and all, but I gave up driving 20 years ago. It's one of the leading causes of death in the USA (far more than guns) and it pollutes the environment and cars are one of the leading factors to climate change. Anyone who claims they support cutting carbon and drive a car, especially when the world is supposed to end in 12 years is a fucking piece of shit hypocrite. Seeings as electric cars are created and use more resources in their creation thus polluting the environment even more than normal gas cars do I think you can see where I'm coming from. (Sorry to tell you, at the end of the day electric cars end up using more resources thus creating more carbon then driving a gas car). Plus, walking and using public transportation keeps you psychically active. So it looks cool and all, but I won't be buying one.
You do raise a good point about electric cars but i guess the environmental damage would vary from country to country. Here in Scotland last year 75% of our electricity was generated from renewable sources (mostly wind and wave powered) by the end of this year the figure should be over 80%. I have no idea what the figure is for America but i would not be surprised if the renewable figure was much lower.

https://www.power-technology.com/news/scotland-renewable-energy-record/
 
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You do raise a good point about electric cars but i guess the environmental damage would vary from country to country. Here in Scotland last year 75% of our electricity was generated from renewable sources (mostly wind and wave powered) by the end of this year the figure should be over 80%. I have no idea what the figure is for America but i would not be surprised if the renewable figure was much lower.

https://www.power-technology.com/news/scotland-renewable-energy-record/

Well, I was being more cynical then anything. The world's not going to end in 12 years (the date has been changing since we were brainwashed back in the 80's with scary videos in 3rd grade science class), but a s of right now the global carbon imprint from electric cars is worse then gas cars. Seeings as if you really believe our planet will be uninhabitable for human life in 12 years then I think driving something that is a leading cause of what you claim is 100% responsible for man mad climate change just shows what type of person you are and how much you care. I don't deny that our actions impact the environment, but there's things like the Sun, the moon, our galaxy, cosmic activity, natural disasters (thinking of volcano's, can we control volcano's yet?) and probably other factors we're just not aware of. Seeings as how academia will black list you for not stating "carbon bad everything else good" and asking questions they don't want you to ask (you won't get funding to research "other" causes of man made climate change) it just goes to show how ignorant society is.

Then there's the "cars are one of the leading causes of death" thing. Also in the USA the majority of the people are fat ugly obese lazy fuckers who should be walking to work every day. I'll really only get on a bus if the place is over blocks away. I've got no problem spending 14 minutes walking two city blocks. Must suck to get winded by simply moving from your computer chair to your bathroom. But hey, companies advertise on TV and the Internet and tell you that you need cars. Who am I to argue with people that simply want to take your money at all costs and could care less about the environment? I mean, would having to start asking questions you're not allowed to thus starting to think on your own be really that bad for you? Pfft .... the truck looks awesome, but it's an environmental destroying death trap. It's windows definitely aren't bulletproof (which makes me wonder if their target Demographic are the honest people stuck in illegal alien infested gang ridden USA Liberal dystopian cities - thinking LA, SF, Detroit and Chicago).
 
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Also in the USA the majority of the people are fat ugly obese lazy fuckers who should be walking to work every day. I'll really only get on a bus if the place is over 2 miles away. I've got no problem spending 14 minutes walking 2 miles. Must suck to get winded by simply moving from your computer chair to your bathroom. Morons.
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So much hatred.

Not really. It's more of an observation rooted in fact and logic. Obesity is a leading cause of death (fact) and fat people are ugly as fuck (majority opinion) and is usually caused by being lazy (fact). Sorry I don't support drawn out suicide, but I do encourage constructive fat shaming because it's a very effective way to make people wake up and realize they're going to die from being fat long before the world ends. Your feelings don't mean shit if you're dead. You do realize my end goal would be to see things go back to where they were in the 80's regarding this issue? You know, where you'd walk into a Grocery Store and you'd maybe run into 1 obese person. Now you walk into one and you're lucky to run into 2 or 3 people who aren't obese. So regardless if you don't like my personality the goal is to reduce obesity so people aren't dying left and right from the complications it causes. I'd also suggest not buying this truck if you value the environment and like to avoid being maimed or killed in a car accident.
 
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Not really. Obesity is a leading cause of death (fact) and fat people are ugly as fuck (majority opinion). Sorry I don't support drawn out suicide, but I do encourage constructive fat shaming because it's a very effective way to make people wake up and realize they're going to die from being fat long before the world ends. Your feelings don't mean shit if you're dead.
I mean the fact that you are raging against a faceless imagine you thought up, when this thread isn't anything about weight at all.
 
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I mean the fact that you are raging against a faceless imagine you thought up, when this thread isn't anything about weight at all.

You cherry picked the weight comment and didn't address the rest of the what I posted. Sorry bud, you don't get to back out of what you brought up. I mentioned weight because weight gain is a negative impact of cars and we are discussing cars are we not? How about you go back and address the rest of my points on why electric cars suck? They suck so I won't be supporting Musk's attempt to sell a new one. I was simply elaborating on why I won't be supporting this truck.
 
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Curved shapes are among the most strong (there is a reason arches were used in old buildings, and not because it looks cool, indeed car designers often hold back a bit lest your car look like a bunch of oil barrels going down the road, or they might kick such things to internal cavities), and aerodynamics also suffer a bit with flat surfaces like that. It might look like a stealth jet (I imagine that is what you are getting "futuristic" from) but they mostly only looked like that because computers weren't yet there to do better and that worked for then.
They might well have some whizz bang aerospace grade stainless steel superalloy (that is also somehow hung rather loosely on the vehicle -- rolling with the punches is a good plan) but that stuff is invariably expensive as anything and takes a whole bunch of extra tooling to create (it is also likely an absolute bastard to weld, and if they made easy to weld stainless then they have a rather large market they are not doing anything with) so I am not expecting that in the final build. Now things have been heading there for a while (carbon fibre and aluminium have only been headed off for conventional normal person cars thanks to some serious efforts on the part of steel makers, most of the really high end stuff has long since been abandoned to such materials). Likewise a direct impact on glass (as opposed to the usual glancing at an angle thing that otherwise bothers windscreens) does not show a great deal.

If they are making a destruction derby car then fantastic but I am not seeing much that will do for the common man.

This in addition to that guy chatting utter bollocks a lot of the time just to generate hype(rloop). Here they are seemingly exploiting a sketchy understanding of engineering, engineering failures and materials in people to try to puff themselves up which is why I am dubious.
for the amount of miles the car gets and the 0-60 speed it has... who cares about aerodynamics? thing is built like an APC and will survive fancy things like strong winds and tight turns. That said I'm holding off on an electric vehicle until solid state batteries are around (predicted to be in 5 years)

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You cherry picked the weight comment and didn't address the rest of the what I posted. Sorry bud, you don't get to back out of what you brought up. I mentioned weight because weight gain is a negative impact of cars and we are discussing cars are we not? How about you go back and address the rest of my points on why electric cars suck? They suck so I won't be supporting Musk's attempt to sell a new one. I was simply elaborating on why I won't be supporting this truck.
ya no. you are just pissing in the wind and getting mad when people get hit by it. it's stupid, has no impact on the discussion and is flavour text that sidelines the discussion. simply stating "most people won't even bother to walk 2 miles" is more apt here and BTW I call bullshit on 14 minutes for two miles while walking. average walking speed is 3.1 miles per hour. even if you were an athlete that means you are about twice as fast as everyone else and thus you are pushing the max speed seen. no way you are getting better than the 10 minute miles they are.
 

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for the amount of miles the car gets and the 0-60 speed it has... who cares about aerodynamics? thing is built like an APC and will survive fancy things like strong winds and tight turns. That said I'm holding off on an electric vehicle until solid state batteries are around (predicted to be in 5 years)

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ya no. you are just pissing in the wind and getting mad when people get hit by it. it's stupid, has no impact on the discussion and is flavour text that sidelines the discussion. simply stating "most people won't even bother to walk 2 miles" is more apt here and BTW I call bullshit on 14 minutes for two miles while walking. average walking speed is 3.1 miles per hour. even if you were an athlete that means you are about twice as fast as everyone else and thus you are pushing the max speed seen. no way you are getting better than the 10 minute miles they are.

Yeah, I fuged that up pretty bad. I meant two city blocks. Though, not related to walking, but in my youth I could run a mile in 5-6 minutes (my siblings were even faster than me). I can't do that anymore because up until recently I was obese and developed heart problems and my weight contributed to causing those problems. I'll go back and fix the error. I've never clocked myself walking a mile, but I walked 6 miles the other day to a park near a local hospital in less than an hour. I usually do walk past everyone else that's walking down the side walk. I'm pretty sure 3 mph is low for someone who's been walking everywhere for the last 20 years. I'm also not pissing into the wind. Electric cars and cars in general are environmental death traps. Seeings as the subject matter is about an electric truck I think my post was spot on the subject matter.
 
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You cherry picked the weight comment and didn't address the rest of the what I posted. Sorry bud, you don't get to back out of what you brought up. I mentioned weight because weight gain is a negative impact of cars and we are discussing cars are we not? How about you go back and address the rest of my points on why electric cars suck thus I don't support Musk's latest creation?
This thread is about the Cybertruck. Not the impact of cars in general, not about gas vs electric or about whether people should be even using cars. These are all different discussions.

Overall tho, it is not even what you said. It is how you said it. You could have simply said something like "I don't support cars because it makes it easier to gain weight." Instead you decided to talk down and belittle a faceless entity.

Didn't cherry pick. Just didn't feel like addressing the same points that been said multiple times in other threads and going off topic. Like somehow going from Cybertruck to illegal aliens.
Someone already said that you can built and fuel these cars with renewable resources. Also, it not like people are just stopping here. People all over the world are trying to figure out how to make each part of the process clean. Better than saying "not perfect" and then giving up.

So, are you going mention weight in every thread that talks about something that might increase people weight? I get it. You don't support any cars, not just electric, or anything that might increase someone's weight. They all suck, right?
 
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for the amount of miles the car gets and the 0-60 speed it has... who cares about aerodynamics?
0-60 is acceleration and little to do with anything here. Cruising speed on highways and the like means you sit at the top of that, if not more. Sharp edges causing a nice bit of turbulence or buffeting also speaks to the road noise of the thing (which given the angles might well only be a few mm from your head)

If it is going to be an electric vehicle that does not allow battery swapout then charge times are a thing.

Or if you prefer then during some sports event a few years back it became popular to put a couple of little flags on cars. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/5038310.stm was the result of that one. This is likely to be more than that.
 

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Better than saying "not perfect" and then giving up.

So, are you going mention weight in every thread that talks about something that might increase people weight? I get it. You don't support any cars, not just electric, or anything that might increase someone's weight. They all suck, right?

I get it. You don't agree or like what I had to say. Usually the truth is pretty inconvenient especially to people that seem to deny it in their lives on a daily basis. Yeah, I could have said "not perfect" like a 12 year old and not elaborated on what I meant and why I meant it or I could have refrained from saying that cars (including this electric truck, which is what I'm directly addressing) aren't expensive death traps that ruin the environment, but luckily you're not in any position to tell me how to conduct myself nor do I give a shit about what you think.
 
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I could have refrained from saying that cars (including this electric truck, which is what I'm directly addressing) aren't expensive death traps that ruin the environment
Do you mean "are"? At least you are being consistent about the use of cars, but that's really a separated issue from whether cars are becoming more environmentally friendly or not. Increasing relying less on unclean energy to built and fuel cars, yet somehow EVs are still worse. Also, self-driving is increasing becoming a thing. Quite frankly, I think it easier and more realistic to move to cleaner and safer technology than to expect for everyone to suddenly drop their cars. Technology that would still need to be developed, even if everyone stopped using cars, because people still need to travel far distances. Still, it is nice to see that you care about the environment so much. It is too bad that you are so angry at people that are worried about man-made issues and want to help the environment, but aren't perfect like you.


nor do I give a shit about what you think.
Yet you cared so much that you wanted me to address the rest of your post.
 

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Funny, but it isn't like the ball went through. Also, this.
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Matte Black confirmed.
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Can't find an actual imagine of it, but there is storage in the hood as well as under the bed.


Cameras.
Isn't there a law that says you have to have review view mirrors and side panel mirrors? What if the camera goes out? A cop would know if your mirror was damaged. But he wouldn't know if your camera malfunctioned, unless he pulled you over.
 

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Isn't there a law that says you have to have review view mirrors and side panel mirrors? What if the camera goes out? A cop would know if your mirror was damaged. But he wouldn't know if your camera malfunctioned, unless he pulled you over.
Probably varies by state but most of the ones I have read say things like if you must have either a working rear view mirror or working wing mirrors, some going a bit further and noting that if they came from the factory (so not most builder vans, though what the distinction between such things is I don't know) by virtue of metal back doors, or if we are doing the US thing then what if you have a decent load in your pickup truck, an idea about as novel from what I saw as BMW drivers indicating but let us not go there) then they had also ought to be working, or at least not having such things working would be a fail for whatever annual vehicle test you might have. Such things might change in the future but I don't particularly see a path to it like there are with other now mandatory safety features.
 

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Well it turns out that the videos floating around of the windows cracking forgot to include that footage of when the truck's windows were previously hit with a sledgehammer before the metal objects. It seems a crack formed after being hit with the sledgehammer, which was supposed to be used to hit the doors with. Musk stated after the fact that the next demo they will get it right and hit the doors with the sledgehammer and then the windows with the metal balls. This confirms my previous theory that hitting bulletproof glass with a large object will still destroy it (as this is what I've always read). So like normal, the media is leaving out critical information to float their own narrative. Though, seeings as this is just a demo of car tech it shouldn't cause ripples in the space time continuum, but just be aware that most of what the main stream media publishes is mis-characterized, slanted, twisted, spun and sold to you as a bulk package based on complete utter fabrications. "Let's spin this to make Musk look bad and let's just hope no one has the time to watch the entire presentation". This the same thing the main stream media is doing with the current USA presidential impeachment inquiry. Just learn to ask questions and if you're silenced or denied answers that's a sure fire bet you're being lied to.
 
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