Sucker Punch

[Kawo]

From the trailers I think this is when the shitstorm hit the ocean of piss.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I'm confused. The story make absolutely no sense to me.

The action completely bored me.

Someone I know said the story confused him but he's honestly fucking retarded. Here's an explanation of it (in spoilers, of course).

Spoiler

Baby Doll's mother dies. She gets super depressed and stuff. Her father is a complete ass and after learning that he won't receive the inheritance he gets a little mad. In a fit of rage or trying to protect herself, Baby Doll grabs her father's gun and accidentally shoots her sister. To not deal with the problem, her father puts her in the mental institution and just pays off the orderly (the main antagonist for the film) to make sure she's not an issue.

During the entire time the brothel fantasy is occuring, the same events are occurring in real life, in the mental institution. She gets the other patients to try to escape and has three days before she gets the lobotomy (which is represented by the "high roller" in the brothel). Just like in the fantasy she eventually gets all the items she needs to help Sweet Pea escape and essentially sacrifices herself to escape. The action sequences are just representations of how getting the item they need is going.

In the end, Baby Doll is captured, gets the lobotomy, but the orderly is eventually arrested for forging the psychiatrist's signature so she'll get the procedure. Sweet Pea gets on a bus and rides away into the sunset.

That's about it.

 

[KingdomBlade]

I'm confused. The story make absolutely no sense to me.

The action completely bored me.

Someone I know said the story confused him but he's honestly fucking retarded. Here's an explanation of it (in spoilers, of course).

Spoiler

Baby Doll's mother dies. She gets super depressed and stuff. Her father is a complete ass and after learning that he won't receive the inheritance he gets a little mad. In a fit of rage or trying to protect herself, Baby Doll grabs her father's gun and accidentally shoots her sister. To not deal with the problem, her father puts her in the mental institution and just pays off the orderly (the main antagonist for the film) to make sure she's not an issue.

During the entire time the brothel fantasy is occuring, the same events are occurring in real life, in the mental institution. She gets the other patients to try to escape and has three days before she gets the lobotomy (which is represented by the "high roller" in the brothel). Just like in the fantasy she eventually gets all the items she needs to help Sweet Pea escape and essentially sacrifices herself to escape. The action sequences are just representations of how getting the item they need is going.

In the end, Baby Doll is captured, gets the lobotomy, but the orderly is eventually arrested for forging the psychiatrist's signature so she'll get the procedure. Sweet Pea gets on a bus and rides away into the sunset.

That's about it.

Meh, I got the story but it was trying very hard to look like some sort of Alice (video game) thing. Actually, the movie reminds me of the game just a little bit, the still, I felt that the movie lacked substance and had a very derivative and trying-to-be-complex plot. Why else would the director call it "Alice in Wonderland with machine guns"?

 

[retKHAAAN]

It was okay I guess. Saw it opening day with the wife. She actually enjoyed it more than I did.

Hard to describe it really... I appreciate it for what it is (something more imaginative/less cookie cutter) but tbh I thought the acting from all of the girls was fairly poor. I understand that it's stylized but I just didn't believe them. Carla Gugino and Oscar Isaac were on a whole different level from the rest of the cast. I enjoyed the two of them.

 

[machomuu]

Well every comic book movie I've seen to date (excluding th OK Scott Pilgrim...hate the main character's actor in every film, though) have either been really mediocre or just plain bad. I don't think I'll chance this one.

 

[KingdomBlade]

Well every comic book movie I've seen to date (excluding th OK Scott Pilgrim...hate the main character's actor in every film, though) have either been really mediocre or just plain bad. I don't think I'll chance this one.

Isn't Scott Pilgrim a graphic novel? And also, Spiderman 2 and The Dark Knight were bad? Really? Or you haven't watched them yet?

 

[Guild McCommunist]

This isn't a comic book/graphic novel movie. Unlike Snyder's past films, this is completely original. Story is by him and the he co-wrote it as well. Watchmen, 300, Sin City, etc, were all based off graphic novels (I'm pretty sure).

And since when were comic book/graphic novel movies bad? Having seen quite a few of them, they're all really quite good. Iron Man was excellent and I think it's better than The Dark Knight in terms of comic book films. The Dark Knight is still great though, as goes for Batman Begins. Then there's Spiderman (the first one wasn't bad), Spiderman 2 (which was awesome, we just don't talk about the third one), The Incredible Hulk (the Ed Norton one), Hellboy (it kinda bored me but it was still pretty good), X-Men (the first two were pretty good), and some upcoming ones like Thor (although it looks pretty meh), Captain America (which is actually looking pretty decent), and The Avengers (which I'm dying to see).

Anyway, I saw Sucker Punch again yesterday (mainly since some of my friends still didn't see it and they wanted to go see it). Second time around I liked it even more as I knew what I was going into when I entered the theater. I was able to focus more on the plot and still enjoy the action. It's not all that confusing. If you can understand Inception you can understand this. But there's a lot of small details that I missed the first time that were nice to pick up the second time. It's kinda like The Matrix, where you can see it 20 times (like I have, I absolutely love The Matrix) and pick up something new every time.

It'll definitely be a cult classic. A majority of people will hate it but people, such as myself and my friends, will love this movie and defend it to the death. I think it's a good action movie with a surprising amount of complexity and interpretation and is a strong start for Snyder's entry into his own ideas.

 

[The Catboy]

And since when were comic book/graphic novel movies bad?

As much as I agree, I am going to be honest with you. You can never please comic book fans when it comes down to the movies. They will either complain that the movie is nothing like the comic or complain the movie follows the comic. Either way you will never be able to please them.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

And since when were comic book/graphic novel movies bad?

As much as I agree, I am going to be honest with you. You can never please comic book fans when it comes down to the movies. They will either complain that the movie is nothing like the comic or complain the movie follows the comic. Either way you will never be able to please them.

Die-hard fans will complain about anything that isn't the original. Like Sonic the Hedgehog fanboys. They will complain like hell about anything that isn't Sonic 1, 2, or 3. Yeah, there's a lot of bad Sonic games, but there's been plenty of good ones too. Comic book die-hards will likely complain about them not getting everything 100% right, when the fact is they have to cram a lot of content into an approximately 2 hour movie as well as probably update it a bit for modern times.

To a general audience though, the movies are still great.

 

[KingdomBlade]

And since when were comic book/graphic novel movies bad?
As much as I agree, I am going to be honest with you. You can never please comic book fans when it comes down to the movies. They will either complain that the movie is nothing like the comic or complain the movie follows the comic. Either way you will never be able to please them.


Agreed. They almost don't care about what the movie is itself anymore. Just because it's based on your comic doesn't mean that it doesn't work as an individual thing, so please stop damn comparing it.

QUOTE(Guild McCommunist @ Apr 2 2011, 10:30 PM)

To a general audience though, the movies are still great.

Even critics like them (most critics considered Dark Knight and Spiderman 2 to be one of the best of their specific years). Even my ten year old girl cousin liked them.