Sony Patents DNA Tracking

[Foxi4]

And why would you need to "change your password" if DNA is your password? There's only one you. If someone wanted to go through such extensive lengths to get your DNA and fingerprints just to crack your account on a video game console then they're trying way too hard.

...not to mention that even if they had the genetic data, they would still have to *physically grow* a piece of tissue according to the DNA schematic for their own reader to read in a lab, unless they find a magical way to hack the reader as well.

As said a thousand times already, I don't expect hackers to start living on Doctor Moreau's island anytime soon, so it's pretty damn secure.

 

[Janthran]

this sounds like a really good idea

Just going way out there...if this were to be used at the consumer level, and on new Sony Playstation hardware, Sony at this point would not only be able to lock one game to one console, but they would also be able to lock a console to one person, effectively and completely disabling the resale of (their) consoles. Anyone who wants to play the Playstation X would have to buy a brand new console.

I was joking.

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[air2004]

Also I find it funny that people are willing to put their credit card, username, address, password, everything else on a server but our DNA (which is practically useless to anyone who doesn't live in a mountain laboratory with a death ray)? THAT'S ONE BRIDGE TOO FAR.

Agreed. DNA sequences are useless to the average folk, I'm glad someone gets it.

This is big brother. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/18/science/18dna.html?_r=0 DNA Evidence Can Be Fabricated, Scientists Show

 

[Foxi4]

DNA Evidence Can Be Fabricated, Scientists Show

Scientists have these things... what-cha-ma-call-em... Laboratories.

Do you have a laboratory and are you entirely capable of producing tissue from a strain of DNA? Now, mind you, not a sample you can cultivate - merely digital information? No. Neither do I. Dare I say, neither does anyone on this entire forum.

 

[Tom Bombadildo]

Wow...I can't believe people are complaining about this when 1) It's not even a thing yet. It's a patent, an idea. We have no clue what this could be used for. 2) With our technology the way it is, there is absolutely nothing anyone can currently do with our DIGITAL DNA information. It's like you assume Sony is gonna generate a blood sample and just toss it in some abandoned warehouse.

Also I find it funny that people are willing to put their credit card, username, address, password, everything else on a server but our DNA (which is practically useless to anyone who doesn't live in a mountain laboratory with a death ray)? THAT'S ONE BRIDGE TOO FAR.

Agreed. DNA sequences are useless to the average folk, I'm glad someone gets it.

This is big brother. http://www.nytimes.c...18dna.html?_r=0 DNA Evidence Can Be Fabricated, Scientists Show

Too bad it can still be identified as fake

Nucleix’s test to tell if a sample has been fabricated relies on the fact that amplified DNA — which would be used in either deception — is not methylated, meaning it lacks certain molecules that are attached to the DNA at specific points, usually to inactivate genes.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Also I find it funny that people are willing to put their credit card, username, address, password, everything else on a server but our DNA (which is practically useless to anyone who doesn't live in a mountain laboratory with a death ray)? THAT'S ONE BRIDGE TOO FAR.

Agreed. DNA sequences are useless to the average folk, I'm glad someone gets it.

This is big brother. http://www.nytimes.c...18dna.html?_r=0 DNA Evidence Can Be Fabricated, Scientists Show

If some fat neckbeard hacker hacks my account, gets a digital record of my DNA, and can fabricate it, he deserves my stupid account.

 

[Foxi4]

I have a weird feeling that people aren't complaining about the technology itself - biometrics are important in the field of security and someone was bent to patent some concepts sooner or later. People are complaining because it's Sony who patented it, and I don't think they realize that, as Suprgamr said, it's not a "thing" yet - just an idea they might, but not necessarily will, develop at some time in the future.

Companies post hundreds of patents yearly to protect their ideas, this is no different than the rest.

 

[The Milkman]

Sony of all companies actually having record of my DNA, the basis of what makes me who I am, how I think and how I look.

Yeah, this couldnt go wrong at all.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Sony of all companies actually having record of my DNA, the basis of what makes me who I am, how I think and how I look.

Yeah, this couldnt go wrong at all.

They're not the fucking Umbrella Corporation.

Jesus Christ.

 

[Foxi4]

Sony of all companies actually having record of my DNA, the basis of what makes me who I am, how I think and how I look.

Yeah, this couldnt go wrong at all.

*facepalms*

>Sony has bad security.
>Complain.
>Sony does something to improve security.
>Complain.

I am willing to *bet* that if an organized hacking attack was aimed at Microsoft's XBox Live or at Nintendo's WFC, they would keel over as well, but fate decided that PSN was to be the victim. No system is perfect, every system is exploitable and all systems have weak spots. Admittedly, using plain text was completely stupid of Sony and the security team who came up with it should be fired, but this is an error that can be (and was) rectified. That, and what exactly was the fallout of these hackings, other than Sony's bad name? Did someone *actually* lose any money whatsoever from their accounts? The answer is "no", or I haven't heard of such a case. In fact, Sony even reimbursed users who had to change their credit cards.

 

[Dimensional]

Thinking this topic over, I see good and bad about it. Using DNA tracking, this would make it easier to log into your systems. If they allow multiple users to use the system, then it wouldn't make it a big problem for system resale, unless of course they become pricks and make it so there's a primary user on first activation and that user has to log in before anyone else can use it, and you can't change the primary user information. Then it would make it very difficult to resale it to someone else.

So depending on how far SONY goes with this patent, it could be good or bad for the community.

 

[Gahars]

So one patent is all that stands between us and 1984. Who'da thunk?

 

[The Milkman]

Sony of all companies actually having record of my DNA, the basis of what makes me who I am, how I think and how I look.

Yeah, this couldnt go wrong at all.

They're not the fucking Umbrella Corporation.

Jesus Christ.

Ofcourse not, they strike me more as the Skynet kind.

Sony of all companies actually having record of my DNA, the basis of what makes me who I am, how I think and how I look.

Yeah, this couldnt go wrong at all.

*facepalms*

>Sony has bad security.
>Complain.
>Sony does something to improve security.
>Complain.

I am willing to *bet* that if an organized hacking attack was aimed at Microsoft's XBox Live or at Nintendo's WFC, they would keel over as well, but fate decided that PSN was to be the victim. No system is perfect, every system is exploitable and all systems have weak spots. Admittedly, using plain text was completely stupid of Sony and the security team who came up with it should be fired, but this is an error that can be (and was) rectified. That, and what exactly was the fallout of these hackings, other than Sony's bad name? Did someone *actually* lose any money whatsoever from their accounts? The answer is "no", or I haven't heard of such a case. In fact, Sony even reimbursed users who had to change their credit cards.

What did I say about security, I just said Sony is the third to last company I would give something like that to (second is Nazi corp, and first is Apple)

 

[Gahars]

...And there we go, folks! It took five pages, but Godwin's Law has been proven true once more. Good show, good show!

Really, was it so necessary to Zanti-go there?

 

[The Milkman]

...And there we go, folks! It took five pages, but Godwin's Law has been proven true once more. Good show, good show!

Really, was it so necessary to Zanti-go there?

You made a pun of my name! I feel so honored oh wise Gahars

 

[Frank Cadena]

Interesting. If this ever becomes reality, I'm not talking about just DNA but the others too, and/or mandatory then I will forsake Sony. Until then I'm not going to be bothered.

 

[Gahars]

...And there we go, folks! It took five pages, but Godwin's Law has been proven true once more. Good show, good show!

Really, was it so necessary to Zanti-go there?

You made a pun of my name! I feel so honored oh wise Gahars

I'm flattered and all, but really. Nazi Corp?

We may be GBAtemp, but we can be classier than that (if only by a bit).

 

[The Milkman]

...And there we go, folks! It took five pages, but Godwin's Law has been proven true once more. Good show, good show!

Really, was it so necessary to Zanti-go there?

You made a pun of my name! I feel so honored oh wise Gahars

I'm flattered and all, but really. Nazi Corp?

We may be GBAtemp, but we can be classier than that (if only by a bit).

Ahem, Gahars my good man, I was simply mocking the sheer amount of butthurt flying in this topic, everyone knows that Nazi Corp is a family friendly company, which makes amazingly well built products, Sonys just flat out evil and trying to destroy western civilization.

 

[ferofax]

Now that that conspiracy theory is out of the way... fuck you, Sony. The day I want a fucking machine to identify me and single me out BY MY DNA is the day I cease to exist as human being. When I am but a drop of blood on a slide, sure, go ahead. Until then, you Sony geniuses can fuck off.

You're right - being identified by a set of characters, be it a nick or a password, or a set of digits, for example a PIN number is much, much better.

Umm... I can't really tell if that was a retort laced with sarcasm, or just a straight out reply. But I like my chosen "set of characters", or username/handle, and I like the layer of obscurity that it offers me. It's not about hiding behind something, but I'd rather they not be able to pinpoint me out of a crowd. If I wanted to be singled out and pinpointed, I'd have chosen a fame or notoriety path. I'd have posted all of my personal information everywhere. You'll find it's a common ground for people nowadays. There are times when personal identification is appropriate, like when money is involved, or personal health or security.

Gaming is not one of them. And most definitely not at the level they're suggesting. DNA identification is forensics-level. The only time that's appropriate is when identifying criminals, murderers, terrorists. Sony wanting to identify you on the forensics-level suggests "You are all suspects". You are all thieves. You are all cheaters, swindlers.

A paranoia exhibited only by insidious minds.

I am getting a totally "serious business" vibe off of this post. XD

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Umm... I can't really tell if that was a retort laced with sarcasm, or just a straight out reply. But I like my chosen "set of characters", or username/handle, and I like the layer of obscurity that it offers me. It's not about hiding behind something, but I'd rather they not be able to pinpoint me out of a crowd. If I wanted to be singled out and pinpointed, I'd have chosen a fame or notoriety path. I'd have posted all of my personal information everywhere. You'll find it's a common ground for people nowadays. There are times when personal identification is appropriate, like when money is involved, or personal health or security.

Gaming is not one of them. And most definitely not at the level they're suggesting. DNA identification is forensics-level. The only time that's appropriate is when identifying criminals, murderers, terrorists. Sony wanting to identify you on the forensics-level suggests "You are all suspects". You are all thieves. You are all cheaters, swindlers.

A paranoia exhibited only by insidious minds.

I am getting a totally "serious business" vibe off of this post. XD

You post your personal information everywhere. You keep passwords and usernames saved on forums. You register to sites with your e-mail. You upload pictures of yourself, friends, family, and more on Facebook. When you purchase something online, you give them your credit card number, your name, your address. People have no issues with posting this level of information but something generally useless to the general public that is far more unique than a password? That's an outrage!

Sony isn't wanting to identify everyone as a "suspect". You're putting your incredible spin on it. It doesn't say "Sony is using this to mark us all as potential cheaters, hackers, suspects, or thieves". You're saying that. If you're wondering what paranoia is, it's what you're saying right now.

DNA can be the ultimate password and it won't be usable in a digital form for most likely decades. It's just funny that people have no issues posting everything from their real life name to pictures of themselves on an open, public forum such as this, where any one can access it, but are apprehensive about a secured company (I know you're all going to go "HARR HARR SONY AREN'T SECURED THEIR SECURITY IS A JOKE LOL" in which case I say that it hasn't be hacked since then) keeping a record of data that's more secure and reliable than a password to help identify you. "Identify you" doesn't mean hounding you, trying to prove every Jack and Jill consumer is a cheater, but identify you as much as a password or username does.