Hacking Rominator for NDS

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Umm, you're more or less the same. Please, stop.
1) It's a background. Don't cry over it, your "intellectual points" sound more like trolling.
Er..eh?. I'm  sorry if you feel that way, but I was responding to a troll, not initiating one....
2) You're assuming the "age" of a "picture" of an "anime" girl.
3) Japanimation is only a "likeliness" of a human form.
4) Your post has no real relevance to the main topic. (Warcueid's post is also spam)
Neither does yours does it? I would've thought talking about your reasons for using a different app on this thread is more "spamming" than I was.
5) That "junk" you speak of: Works well, and perhaps faster than Rominator for trimming. (I use NDSTokyoTrim for trimming and Rominator for organizational purposes).
I don't care if you like it. No one asked you if you did. I'm not sure why you've added that info.
6) Brian hardcoded the background on because people like "you" were complaining about it in the first place.
People like "me"? I thought you weren't allowed to belittle others on here? Using phrases like "Don't cry over it" would also constitute flaming fom your definition.
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Who lied to whom? Again, I'm sorry if you didn't understand the gist of my reply. I was merely responding to the spam (Fair enough, I get your point, maybe I shouldn't have responded at all (in which case, again, I apologise - I'll shut up now, I shouldn't have risen to the bait in the first place) ......but in my defence there is a vast difference between defending something on it's own thread and attacking something on a different one. Plus, there was no need for you to add to it thus going even more off-topic was there?. I wasn't asking for reasons as to why other people like other tools - I personally think if you & Warcueid wish to discuss further, do so over there where it belongs (I'm not trying to argue, just rebutting your points ...and as I promised, to avoid further confrontation I'll shut up about it now
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@Hank. This is not a bug report. More a simple Q
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. Can you confirm that the database matches the data (for instance covers/icons) via the game 4 digit number? If so, do you happen to know who determines what game gets given what number?
It seems that all rom's, regardless of where they're downloaded from, have consistent numbering system, so someone somewhere must be allocating each game it's own digits? (Presumably, Nintendo themselves - or am I completely off-base here? - there is no digit field on the "edit internal information" pop-up, so can you tell us where the info is kept internally?).

Secondly, again, curiosity on my part, but how on Earth does safe trim know what to trim? It's managed to trim all of my roms that aren't even in the database 100% correctly so far
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. Does it simply scan the file and remove the blank spaces ? (in which case, could you do that separately in a hex editor if you wanted to?)

Finally, rZip as opposed to Zip....apart from keep the header information for use in this program, is it more "space efficient" than standard zip? Could it, for instance, be used to compress a normal file better than zip does?

Sorry for all the Q's and thanx for any info
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EDIT: If you use a mac, you're probably aware of osx.isuthis.com ? It's like macupdate or versiontracker. Well I've registered Rominator on there
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. As you're the dev, you just have to click the "claim" button to maintain it.
 

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This is more of a question than a bug report, so figured I'd ask here. If we add games to the manager, and "flash" them over to our cart with the trim settings on that we want, will it still trim it or can that potentially break something? I didn't want to try it out, so I tried dragging them to the trimmer you have in the toolbox, it didn't work. It worked however dragging it from where I have the rom stored onto it, but not from the manager to the trimmer. Forgot to mention I'm on Win Vista Home Prem.


Of course it will trim with the settings you've chosen, as long as trim is active
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The Rom Trimmer is not for Rominator database games, you take games from Windows and drop them onto the rom trimmer. Trimming from within Rominator happens on the fly, so if you have it set to trim, upon "flashing" it will only flash the trimmed game -- And no, it won't break your game
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[email protected] This is not a bug report. More a simple Q . Can you confirm that the database matches the data (for instance covers/icons) via the game 4 digit number? If so, do you happen to know who determines what game gets given what number?
It seems that all rom's, regardless of where they're downloaded from, have consistent numbering system, so someone somewhere must be allocating each game it's own digits? (Presumably, Nintendo themselves - or am I completely off-base here? - there is no digit field on the "edit internal information" pop-up, so can you tell us where the info is kept internally?).

Secondly, again, curiosity on my part, but how on Earth does safe trim know what to trim? It's managed to trim all of my roms that aren't even in the database 100% correctly so far . Does it simply scan the file and remove the blank spaces ? (in which case, could you do that separately in a hex editor if you wanted to?)

Finally, rZip as opposed to Zip....apart from keep the header information for use in this program, is it more "space efficient" than standard zip? Could it, for instance, be used to compress a normal file better than zip does?

Sorry for all the Q's and thanx for any infoÂ

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Just the game's 4 digit ID is not enough to determine which game it is in the database. There are 3 methods I use for determining the game:
• For regular NDS games, I pull 3 pieces of info: Game Code, Header and Rom Version. Every game has this data and it is what is used to gather the information, NOT CRC checks. CRC is no good for this type of thing because you can have a trimmed game and would not find a match since a trimmed game's CRC is different from the clean game.
• For rZipped games, I store the 3 pieces of info in the rZip Header, so it can be identified immediately.
• For Zipped games, it identifies by CRC.

Safe trim is, well, just a safe trim
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Basically there's a set number of bytes after the ROM data to preserve for WiFi data, and a safe trim just keeps the data. It does not scan the file and remove blank spaces, it scans the header and catches the Rom Size from there -- That is the main trim point.

Right now rZip and Zip are almost identical in size, since they're both based off zLib compression. rZip just allows me more manipulation as I can store my own metadata in the file (already in rZips is stored the header, game ID, and icon so Rominator recognizes it immediately). It's up to you what you want to use
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Yay! Thanks for listening to me. Going the CRC route on Zips was the smart thing to do.

Well of course it was; it's by far the fastest way for game recognition; however, if the game has a bad CRC because it's not clean or trimmed, then it'll have to be processed regardless, but still that won't happen too often
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Man, I'm working night shift right now at my job (I work a desk job) so there's like nothing to get done, so I just program Rominator
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Hello, I'm new to GBAtemp and Rominator. I'm planning on purchasing the M3 DS Real any day now, so I went looking for a ROM renamer and stumbled upon this, it looks like a great app.

I'm sure this has already been asked, but I do not see an option to thread search, so apologies. Rominator does not support GBA games correct? If not, could someone recommend a GBA renamer? Any help would be appreciated.
 

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This is more of a question than a bug report, so figured I'd ask here. If we add games to the manager, and "flash" them over to our cart with the trim settings on that we want, will it still trim it or can that potentially break something? I didn't want to try it out, so I tried dragging them to the trimmer you have in the toolbox, it didn't work. It worked however dragging it from where I have the rom stored onto it, but not from the manager to the trimmer. Forgot to mention I'm on Win Vista Home Prem.

Of course it will trim with the settings you've chosen, as long as trim is active
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The Rom Trimmer is not for Rominator database games, you take games from Windows and drop them onto the rom trimmer. Trimming from within Rominator happens on the fly, so if you have it set to trim, upon "flashing" it will only flash the trimmed game -- And no, it won't break your game
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Thanks for clarifying that up.
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Hello, I'm new to GBAtemp and Rominator. I'm planning on purchasing the M3 DS Real any day now, so I went looking for a ROM renamer and stumbled upon this, it looks like a great app.

I'm sure this has already been asked, but I do not see an option to thread search, so apologies. Rominator does not support GBA games correct? If not, could someone recommend a GBA renamer? Any help would be appreciated.

Hiya,

There is a program called OfflineList which I believe supports GBA Games too.

Currently, there are no plans for Rominator to support GBA. It was designed specifically for NDS. I've got enough work to do on the DS side of things that GBA support just isn't in the cards.

And there is an option to search the thread: If you go to the bottom of the window, and look in the bottom right corner you will see in small letters 'Enter Keywords:'. Just put the keywords you're looking for into the field beside it, and you can find what you are looking for
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EDIT: Just wanted to add: Guys, I'm having troubles recreating the Error 1117 when using the Rom Queue -- I am able to use it just fine. Maybe you guys should stop sniffing the glue. Haha just kidding, but really I can't duplicate the issue. Can anyone shed some light on exact steps they're taking to get this problem, because right now I have no problems with the queue.
 

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Woohoo, survived the first 12 hours of night shift, only 24 more to go
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I got lots done and fixed quite a few things, plus made some nice changes to the feedback and review system. I'll be doing more fixups and changes tomorrow, and the next day, and this weekend I will have v5.1 released
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Hello, I'm new to GBAtemp and Rominator. I'm planning on purchasing the M3 DS Real any day now, so I went looking for a ROM renamer and stumbled upon this, it looks like a great app.

I'm sure this has already been asked, but I do not see an option to thread search, so apologies. Rominator does not support GBA games correct? If not, could someone recommend a GBA renamer? Any help would be appreciated.


Hiya,

There is a program called OfflineList which I believe supports GBA Games too.

Currently, there are no plans for Rominator to support GBA. It was designed specifically for NDS. I've got enough work to do on the DS side of things that GBA support just isn't in the cards.

And there is an option to search the thread: If you go to the bottom of the window, and look in the bottom right corner you will see in small letters 'Enter Keywords:'. Just put the keywords you're looking for into the field beside it, and you can find what you are looking for
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EDIT: Just wanted to add: Guys, I'm having troubles recreating the Error 1117 when using the Rom Queue -- I am able to use it just fine. Maybe you guys should stop sniffing the glue. Haha just kidding, but really I can't duplicate the issue. Can anyone shed some light on exact steps they're taking to get this problem, because right now I have no problems with the queue.

Simply trying to use the rom queue gives me the error, or more precisely i drag and drop any numer of roms into the queue (even just one) select the flash card (only one anyway) and press flash, at this point the error pops up. Draggin and dropping the roms in the browser works fine, it's just the queue. Using xp sp2 with a DSlinker 16gb cart if it's any help! Thanks.
 

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ack...i just did the autoupdate to 1623 or thereabouts and now starting rominator instantly gives errors 1057, 1033 and 1034 in that order.
 

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Simply trying to use the rom queue gives me the error, or more precisely i drag and drop any numer of roms into the queue (even just one) select the flash card (only one anyway) and press flash, at this point the error pops up. Draggin and dropping the roms in the browser works fine, it's just the queue. Using xp sp2 with a DSlinker 16gb cart if it's any help! Thanks.

Can I have a Mac OS X user try to use the queue and see if they get the same problem? I'm trying to find out if the issue is platform specific.

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Call of duty 4 (U) shows up as Zoo Keeper

There's a problem that the rominator will get stuck in a minimized position and I can't unminimize it. If I reopen the program it will stay minimized and I can't see the program. But it fixes if I restart my computer.

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Call of duty 4 (U) shows up as Zoo Keeper

There's a problem that the rominator will get stuck in a minimized position and I can't unminimize it. If I reopen the program it will stay minimized and I can't see the program. But it fixes if I restart my computer.

Using XP

Use feedback system for crying out loud! Holy crap.
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It's been mentioned a HUNDRED times that if it gets stuck in a minimized position, HOLD SHIFT WHEN LAUNCHING ROMINATOR.

And you don't make sense saying 'Call of duty 4 (U) shows up as Zoo Keeper'. Box art wise? database wise? Tell me.

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Call of duty 4 (U) shows up as Zoo Keeper

There's a problem that the rominator will get stuck in a minimized position and I can't unminimize it. If I reopen the program it will stay minimized and I can't see the program. But it fixes if I restart my computer.

Using XP


Use feedback system for crying out loud! Holy crap.
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It's been mentioned a HUNDRED times that if it gets stuck in a minimized position, HOLD SHIFT WHEN LAUNCHING ROMINATOR.

And you don't make sense saying 'Call of duty 4 (U) shows up as Zoo Keeper'. Box art wise? database wise? Tell me.

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No wait. I mean Dementium - The Ward (U)

NVM, seemed to have fixed itself just now.
 

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No wait. I mean Dementium - The Ward (U)

NVM, seemed to have fixed itself just now.

You *think* it fixed itself, but really it was me who hacked into your machine using my 1337 ninja-skillz, and fixed up your Rominator for you
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@juggernaut911: There's no way the icons could be the wrong icons -- They are pulled directly from the game
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@juggernaut911: There's no way the icons could be the wrong icons -- They are pulled directly from the game
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Actually....

When I was having that Pac'nRoll problem, deleting a game caused all my icons past the deleted game to be shifted one up. I was able to fix it by restarting Rominator.
 

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I feel sorry for you Hank Chill and must be quite frustrating when people dont listen to you and still use this thread to post their problem. I feel for you man, have a cookie. *sends hank a cookie via teh intarweb*

On-topic.

Awesome program man, couldn't game without it, and thanks for all your time devoted to this great app.
 
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