Gaming Roleplaying games similar to fallout 2?

[BetterDuck]

I was watching a fallout 2 run and it made me wonder about other pc roleplaying games that are comparitively deep. The problem with newer roleplaying games is that a lot of them lack the depth of certain older games, fallout 2 being my main example. This game leaves me wanting a lot more in other rpgs I attempt to play. I'd appreciate if I could get help finding similar games, or at least games that'd help me scratch the itch that Fallout 2 leaves. I'd also appreciate if you'd avoid the generic ones, like what you'd find with a quick Google search. Thanks to anyone who can help.

 

[FAST6191]

Good luck. This would be one of those near dead genres like space sims, or worse still something you get a glimpse of in the intro quests to a game before it becomes the next edition of skeleton clicker -- the Divinity and Risen franchises could be worth a tiny look and I enjoyed much of the ones I had played but I also like the more mindless action. Kickstarter funded throwbacks like http://gbatemp.net/review/torment-tides-of-numenera.560/ being the main thing keeping the dream alive if you don't count the rereleases (and occasional bugfix/upscale release) of the Bauldur's gate games and things from the same dev (being as you said you are not after the usual suspects I will leave that).

You try some of the European stuff as it tends to skew a bit deeper (see something like Venetica), though that can also mean more linear. I am not sure what Russia is doing these days but they had some stuff back when, tended to be rather buggy and translation a bit thin on the ground though. Not to mention most Russian stuff tends to be either be abstract or first person shooter today (see the Metro and STALKER games, both of which have fantastic world building).

Many of the wants to be skyrim set will also have a mod or a baked in version that allows for a bit more role playing, tends to be called hardcore mode or something like that. Speaking of mods you might find some there but I am not terribly up to date with what goes there. https://sureai.net/games/nehrim/ being a start though.

I don't know if you are after role playing or just the more tactical aspect. If the latter then there are a few survival games out there which scratch something of the same itch for me, and also a bunch of roguelike games (thinking more FTL and convoy than Rogue Legacy).
Similarly a few people have attempted to turn some of the older pen and paper/adventure book sort of things into games. If you have a DS then the homebrew versions of Lone Wolf are great https://www.projectaon.org/staff/frederic/ and I think it is also on phones these days.

Coming completely the other way I will toss out "life sims". Academagia being one of the places I would start, though I would also then skew it immediately to King of Dragon Pass.

 

[Taleweaver]

I can think of 2, but I haven't played either:
-underrail: this looks exactly alike. Not sure whether it reminds more fallout 2 or tactics, though.
-wasteland 2: this actually IS fallout 3: it's by the same makers and in the same spirit... It's just that they couldn't use the name (so they got the name of the game that inspired the first fallout games)

 

[BetterDuck]

Thanks, I'll look into both of your suggestions. Honestly though, one of the biggest draws to me of Fallout 2 is the roleplaying. I really appreciate the tacticality as well, but most games today don't go as deep with character building, roleplaying, etc.(at least not in my experience) as the older fallout games. I enjoy oblivion and morrowind but I feel like games like that kind of ruined the genre.

 

[Zero72463]

Looking at pictures, Age of Empires looks similar, but as far as I know it doesn't have any in-depth character development. Also it's set in the medieval ages, not in a wasteland.

 

[Taleweaver]

Thanks, I'll look into both of your suggestions. Honestly though, one of the biggest draws to me of Fallout 2 is the roleplaying. I really appreciate the tacticality as well, but most games today don't go as deep with character building, roleplaying, etc.(at least not in my experience) as the older fallout games. I enjoy oblivion and morrowind but I feel like games like that kind of ruined the genre.

I'm not sure if I understand what you're saying here. For me, there was a long time fallout was the only turn based RPG I could stand because I perceived the other ones as having stats for the sake of having stats (the common fantasy theme played into this as well). I dare say it was deep because it mattered in what way you distributed your skills on your character (meaning: you can't just "do everything"), but it wasn't overly complex.

So...I was thinking of namedropping the shadowrun returns series and divinity: original sin. Neither are post-apocalyptic (the former is cyberpunk, the latter - yup - fantasy), but they are praised for their deep character development and turn based combat.

Looking at pictures, Age of Empires looks similar, but as far as I know it doesn't have any in-depth character development. Also it's set in the medieval ages, not in a wasteland.

Erm...is this a joke? age of empires is a real time strategy game. All they have in common is (at most) the isometric perspective on the field, but that's about it.
And perhaps I should clarify: when I said underrail "looked alike", I didn't mean just in pics, but in how it is set up both theme wise and technical. Again: I haven't played it myself, but with many people claiming it having a "fallout 2"-vibe, I think I can say it without just saying something of screenshots.

 

[Zero72463]

I'm not sure if I understand what you're saying here. For me, there was a long time fallout was the only turn based RPG I could stand because I perceived the other ones as having stats for the sake of having stats (the common fantasy theme played into this as well). I dare say it was deep because it mattered in what way you distributed your skills on your character (meaning: you can't just "do everything"), but it wasn't overly complex.

So...I was thinking of namedropping the shadowrun returns series and divinity: original sin. Neither are post-apocalyptic (the former is cyberpunk, the latter - yup - fantasy), but they are praised for their deep character development and turn based combat.


Erm...is this a joke? age of empires is a real time strategy game. All they have in common is (at most) the isometric perspective on the field, but that's about it.
And perhaps I should clarify: when I said underrail "looked alike", I didn't mean just in pics, but in how it is set up both theme wise and technical. Again: I haven't played it myself, but with many people claiming it having a "fallout 2"-vibe, I think I can say it without just saying something of screenshots.

Oh, oops.

 

[Issac]

Well, there are the Baldurs Gate games and the Icewind Dale games... Those are pretty similar in style (but not setting, those are fantasy and actually based on the Dungeons and Dragons rules)

 

[Cyan]

I never played it, so I don't know how good it is compared to Fallout2, but you could try Fallout tactics.

 

[jDSX]

There are still CRPGs out here but no idea if any fit the bill that fallout 2 is known for but try out:

Stasis- horror crpg with isometric style view
Baldur's gate- grandfather of crpgs probably already know that
Shadowrun returns - great crpg, short but enjoyed every moment of it
Pillars of eternity- a throwback to the genre, never played it though stuck in backlog
Age of decadence- this is more 3D isometric turn based crpg never played it

 

[BetterDuck]

Well, there are the Baldurs Gate games and the Icewind Dale games... Those are pretty similar in style (but not setting, those are fantasy and actually based on the Dungeons and Dragons rules)

That sounds pretty nice. I really enjoy D&D. I'll put that on the list as well.