Really need help, used tiny format now i lost EVERYTHING

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  1. Chrisssj2
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    So from lasts topic i was advised to use tinyformat in order to use emunand and sysnand at the same time. to go further then the 300 limit for titles.
    Now I lost everything because of that!!! I copy back me entire sd backup content. and i lost all my games on sysnand...

    How can I restore it?? Please tell me it's possible
    Im freaking out here.
     


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    ┬┤Well... tinyformat is an application to format your 3DS, so it's expected if you would lose everything on the nand you formatted, even if you keep a backup of your SD each format changes the encryption key which make any game prior to the format unreadable. Formatting either nand is required to unlink the sysnand with an emunand (Which is what I think you're implying what you wanted). If prior to the formatting your Emunand was just cloned from your Sysnand then your games should remain playable if you access your Emunand.

    The only way to retrieve back your games in your Sysnand is to restore a backup of the nand you used to play those game (your emunand would be a valid copy if your games appear there).
     
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    What about games i added after i made this sysnand backup. Anyway to run/restore those games?
     
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    You mean games that you installed after the sysnand backup but before the formatting? If you restore your old nand, it should read even the games installed after the backup was created, but it might not appear on the home menu since the NAND would be missing the ticket of the game, I think the game should be listed and be able to run from the FBI Title list though.
     
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    That would be great news! Atleast i can precisely find the games then.
    Would there also be a way to install that missing ticket for it to appear on the homescreen?
     
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    What did you think tinyformat did? :/ You were supposed to use it to unlink your sysNAND and your emuNAND, therefore you were supposed to lose everything on one NAND. :/ Not to be rude, but tinyformat is kinda obvious in what it does. If you successfully made an emuNAND, your 300+ titles are safe on your emuNAND, while sysNAND is a blank slate. Do more research before freaking out.
     
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    Yeah, 3DS ticket files are usually found in .tik files, you could also use FBI's QR Install and scan a ticket file from that ticket site, or use freeShop or many of its other alternatives to install the ticket (for freeShop, the ticket installation is done before the game starts downloading, so you can start the download and cancel it right away).
     
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    I was just following instructions (instructions that were missing info albeit)..
    I had no idea. also i thought i would be given a confirmation i was not.
    And I thought i could choose between sysnand or emunand..

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    Well i suppose there will be many games that are not on the freeshop i had to install them manually through japanese cia files.
     
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    Luma allows you to choose between booting sysNAND or emuNAND. You should've waited for confirmation from someone else before you did anything like this.

    For the games not on freeShop, you will have to reinstall them manually.
     
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    My rule of thumb is to stay far away from anything that looks vaguely like the word "format"

    Of course that ultimately leads to situations of intense paranoia in the vicinity of floormats.
     
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    This. ^ Read more about what an app does before using it on your system as you could royally mess something up, aka formatting your NAND, resulting in the loss of 300+ titles (why you have that many titles and why you need more than that is beyond me).
     
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    did you run it on emu and or sysnand???????

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    Mate please reply to this question on witch nand did you use tiny format?please tell me I can help!
     
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    Sysnand appearently............
     
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    did you clone emunand to sysnand?this is very important
     
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    No.. i had no idea how
     
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    Do you have a NAND Backup around? Nuking your SysNAND is typically a bad idea.
     
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    when it asked you in godmode9 you had to say yes. I didn't write that post so you could read and have fun,those were the steps to have a working emunand. You said you already did that but you had to redo it to clone your sys to emu

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    the thing is he didn't clone his sys to emu that's why I've been asking in the last two posts
     
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    I just found out my sysnand backup... has no games backed up on it ..
     
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    did you by any chance have backed up your tickets and title keys with decrypt9?

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    did you try launch the games from FBI?
     
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    No... i wish i did.. because i understand now thats what would have saved me..

    Well I accidently pressed build support files a few days ago. decTitleKeys.bin encTitleKeys.bin secret_sector.bin seeddb.bin
    Are these the files I will need?? if thats what you mean by any chance?

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    Yes.. they dont show up there.
     
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