R4i RTS announced

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Tanas said:
DSGamer64 said:
Tanas said:
nonnonnon said:
Why are you people hating that the m3 team makes much money when you get good Flashcards from them? you talk about this r4 as a lame clone when the admin of gbatemp say it is not! the M3i Zero is going to have sakura suport. sakura is by far the greatest firmware of all time on a ds flashcard, even if it is made by moonlight! so what, if the m3 team has 5 flashcards,all with dsi suport, when the m3i zero probably(because of sakura) will be a great card. when i buyed my first card i did know perfectly well that r4 not was the name of all flashcard. i buyed the m3 real and has never had any issues with it. i will buy the m3i zero. i don't care if the m3 team starts making hundreds of other flashcards, because i am convinced that they will continue to make great m3 cards. the m3 team is by far on of the best teams out there, no mather how many flashcards they make.
The M3 Team is the biggest fucking arsehole team out there, first they screwed M3 Perfect users, then they screwed M3 Simply Users and worst of all they screwed Moonlight.
Yes, because continuing to support flash cards that are out of date makes a lot of sense from a development standpoint
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If you think that M3 is going to support old DS compatible flash cards from 2 years ago you are a fucking moron, all the best cards of their times stop getting supported. When was the last time a release for old EZ Flash or Super Card carts was released for them individually? The DS Lite and DSi are all that matter now, no one cares about the original and eventually even DS Lite carts will be canned in favour of the DSi ones. If you don't like having to upgrade after a year or so, stop buying flashcards because they do become obsolete, but at the prices they are now why even bother complaining. You can get two cards for the price of what one card that is terrible by todays standards costs. Old cards don't have the same features and performance as newer ones, complaining about not getting them is just stupid as hell, if you are unsure which card to get, then wait until the reviews come out instead of spending your money on the newest and latest thing. Currently, the only good card worth owning from a performance standpoint is the Acekard 2i for all 3 DS models, all the others have some form of issues, SCDS Onei has shitty cheat compatibility and is slow as hell, EZ Flash has terrible firmware support because the team keeps making firmwares that are compatible with old and obsolete products which in turn harms the quality of the Vi's firmware.
You're the fucking moron, they stopped supporting the M3 Simlpy when it wasn't out of date, the thing was still on the market you clueless prick, and the M3 Perfect support stopped not long after they released the M3 simply, which at that time there were still a lot of M3 Perfect users.
There was nothing to upgrade on the M3 Simply, I know cause I had one for a long time till I got my CycloDS, no sense in supporting an irrelevant card when all the new ones had SDHC support.
 
i might be cluless (to be honest i think we all know i am
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), but the m3 team did right in stoping suport for their older cards. the only problem i find with the m3 team is that they droped suport a little to early for m3 simply/perfect.
 
I thought M3 Simply support died after the last R4 (official) update
which was a while after the M3 Real release... (it was a little over a year ago to be more exact)
 
Well at the end of the day I can't see M3 supporting more then 3 cards when the R4 RTS and M3i Zero launch are both on the market. They will probably continue with the M3DS Real since it is a highly popular card for those who use older DS models, and firmware updates for the R4i RTS will also be compatible R4i SDHC model as well, then the M3i Zero will have it's own firmware. So long as updates come out when we need them things will be fine.
 
but if m3 is taking over r4, won't it just be another r4 clone in a sense without the original creators on the team...?
 
remember that they have to update itouch also, and they are working on the ds gps system Ranger. that means 4 cards to update plus an gps. sounds like the m3 team is quite busy!
 
asterion said:
but if m3 is taking over r4, won't it just be another r4 clone in a sense without the original creators on the team...?

The M3 Simply was also technically an R4 product. The R4 manufacturers were also the R4 team, M3 decided to allow them to sell their own nearly-100%-similar product. So it's not a clone...
 
nonnonnon said:
sounds like the m3 team is quite busy!Yes, they are very very very busy...
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On a more serious note, I expect these cards are all sharing a codebase with features enabled/disabled by a simple hardware reply code - it's what they have always done before, why change now? I mean, tell me there isn't someone with itouch, sakura and m3real firmware booting all on the same card once that hardware reply code is patched, pretty much proving the only difference is a software frontend (even one which seems to lack credit to PALib creators.) Meanwhile compatibility updates are built somewhat universally as a "backend" - the most 'strenuous' update I've seen from them for a while was waiting a couple extra days for the 'scene' to figure out antipiracy patches so they could incorporate them.

The only reason they have had to drop support of "older" cards (a couple of years in not old when the host platform essentially hasn't changed one iota) is to try and get "newer" models to sell to current owners. Lacking SDHC compatibility (along with 'flooding' a bunch of new products to market so they have something to later abandon when initial sales taper off) is not enough reason for them to not fix existing bugs in their software and stop releasing periodic compatibility updates, in fact nearly every one of their competitors did update the hardware to add sdhc all without interrupting updates to the old non-SDHC versions.

I could only honestly recommend 2 products - anything from supercard (they still update even for their original CF adapter, and if folks remember they didn't need to release a whole new product to add DS support to those GBA cards nor to add RTS to DS1 products) and AK2 (thankfully they don't hoard their source code meaning as long as AK2 users have friends like Normatt they'll never be left out in the cold compatibility and bug wise...)

If one wants to know how it feels to have a product with a limited software update span and planned fake obsolescence, feel free to 'invest' your money in R4/M3 product. I do still value and use my m3perfect from time to time though, some of M3's GBA works are indeed tops even if I haven't seen an update since april 2008 and am still waiting on english firmware e36 - and this is a card I spent around $100 on, after shipping (imagine how they'll treat you with a $15-40 card then.) I won't even touch (har har) on G6.

Now, if M3 were being perfectly (har har) honest, they'd call their next card the M3-$WCUWANFTSOHDSWCSYM$ ($we came up with another name for the same old hardware design so we can sell you more$.) In the least they'd outline their software lifespan plans. Yes, that's what this little rant is all about - selling a software update as entirely new hardware and quite clearly duping folks into believing it couldn't be done on their current card (SDHC/DSi compatibility aside, of course - is there any real reason to have a DSi only model as well as a DSL SDHC of these R4's?)

edit:/ btw, after checking the files released I'm quite confident the R4RTS is actually a disguised M3Real, the header of the main binaries are OR'd with 0x72 and follows similar encryption scheme as M3R current firmware (M3R eng was 0x12, gb 0x23, jp 0x07, itouch en 0x32, gb 0x33, jp 0x37 - it's just hardware switches for "different" models, each language locked to promote higher prices at retail on english based models.)

Hopefully I made this long enough no one will actually read it past the picture punch line... I'm just another opinionated screwball who always marvels at the ability of others to allow themselves to be duped
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@ Ozmodchips: I Ain't buying from you again
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@ General public: I'm astounded that you guys have the hide to say the team is a fail, i'll get one because i know i can trust them.
You guys a one of the reasons it died, "Acekard is better" or "Get a cyclo if you have the cash" You know its true
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@Quick-zeno:
My R4 is sitting here staring at me wondering why it's makers have abandoned it to a dusty shelf. It was one of the original chinese versions which could be switched relatively easily between M3S/R4 and eng/chinese, which by the way saved me around $10USD at the time because of M3's retarded language locking to increase english card prices. Yet another example of M3's dedication to their customers: fleece 'em for $5 on every non-chinese/japanese unit.
 
cory1492 said:
@Quick-zeno:
My R4 is sitting here staring at me wondering why it's makers have abandoned it to a dusty shelf. It was one of the original chinese versions which could be switched relatively easily between M3S/R4 and eng/chinese, which by the way saved me around $10USD at the time because of M3's retarded language locking to increase english card prices. Yet another example of M3's dedication to their customers: fleece 'em for $5 on every non-chinese/japanese unit.
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No mather what people say about the m3 team i will buy m3i zero. acekard 2i is just acekard 2 with dsi suport slaped on. evi has a terrible firmware (it is what the users say), and supercard dsonei is all to difficult (with the cheat and rom loading system) for me to handle (i guess i could figure it ot but it takes to much time
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). The m3 real is easy and have all the functions i needed + it comes updates once or twice in a month and it is cheap. my experience with them are so good, but ,offcurse, if they are continuing to do this things (like droping suport and only think about money) and do them mmore intense i might go over to someoe else when buing my next flashcard after the m3i zero
 
hi i have one on hand,

reply --OMFG


Does this come with a new firmware?
Or is it just the same old firmware with rts added?

after tested

it can work with the Latest games which come on market RECENTLY. yes, RTS ASLO IS a
Highlight point of it
 
hi i have one on hand,

reply --OMFG


Does this come with a new firmware?
Or is it just the same old firmware with rts added?

after tested

it can work with the Latest games which come on market RECENTLY. yes, RTS ASLO IS a
Highlight point of it
 

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