Hacking NTSC VC to PAL VC list

[FatMaserati]

I want to make a list of which NTSC VC games work properly on PAL Wiis. This is because, IMO, PAL conversions suck.

So I want...

- ONLY NTSC VC games that work on PAL Wiis
- ONLY games that work properly, ie. 480i/p, not forced 576i (defeats the purpose of NTSC ROMs)
- The method of changing the region that worked for you
EDIT - At the moment, I'm not interested in games which have been injected.

UPADTED - GAMES THAT WORK PROPERLY:
Sin & Punishment --- Runs in 480p --- Used FreeTheWads and made it region-free.
Super Mario 64 --- Runs in 480i --- Used FreeTheWads and made it region-free.

If anyone else has made any other games work, please add it to this thread.
Thanks.

 

[FatMaserati]

Just a thought, do NTSC games have different TITLE IDs to their PAL counterparts?

 

[jan777]

yep in the end pal always ends in 'p'
while usa ends in 'e'

 

[Redsquirrel]

yeah i wanna know if the wiiware final fantasy ntsc works on PAL as can not find a pal release.

 

[Nineveh]

Final.Fantasy.Crystal.Chronicles.My.Life.as.a.King.PAL.WiiWare.Wii-iND has been released and works properly. Check Lacius' thread for more details on WiiWare releases:

http://www.gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=89964

 

[linkinworm]

yeah i wanna know if the wiiware final fantasy ntsc works on PAL as can not find a pal release.

you aint looking in the right places then, i had the jap version, then i got the NTSC version, and i currenty have the pal version now. because i like to keep things to my region

 

[flobo]

With freethewads :
Mario kart 64 and paper mario do not work. Forced 576i.
Injected smash bros NTSC into S&P NTSC works. 480p.

 

[FatMaserati]

I've tried heaps of things with FreeTheWads and only Super Mario 64 has worked. I'm currently looking through the HEX to see why it works.

 

[FatMaserati]

Sin & Punishment worked. Runs in 480p. Anyone know why it runs in progressive? Not complaining, just curious.

 

[linkinworm]

Sin & Punishment worked. Runs in 480p. Anyone know why it runs in progressive? Not complaining, just curious.

its because the (some of them)emulator is made to run in 480p, nothing to do with the rom its self. VC games are made up of emulators HTML pages and a ROM of the original game, thats why injectiong roms works

 

[FatMaserati]

So each VC game has the respective emulator built in? Ah wicked. Thanks for that. I was wondering why Sin & Punishment was commonly used when injecting ROMs.

 

[linkinworm]

yea tbh, if they installed an extra flash chip maybe a 128mb one stuck all the emulators on there, update it when needed, VC games would be smaller( about 8mb max for snes + 3mb for all the manual data) how much is a 128mb flash these days about £1 from whole sellers. if you think about it, i have about 2 pages of games, around 3 from each console, including 2 wiiware, now if all them VC games were that 6/7mb smaller, i could get another game on there easily,(148 blocks left) hopefully, when the external drive/solution comes out, the internal memory wont be a problem anymore, just install a 500gb HDD into that badboy lol

 

[Lumstar]

All VC games sold on the US shop channel support 480p, I'm aware of that.

Don't know about running them using a PAL Wii though...

 

[FatMaserati]

Man, we really got shafted here in Aus. So many VC problems/bad conversions. I should just buy a US one and put this one in the bin.

 

[TaxiTitan]

I've tried heaps of things with FreeTheWads and only Super Mario 64 has worked. I'm currently looking through the HEX to see why it works.

The US games are made to run in 480 60hz so there must be a way to patch them to not prefer 50hz on a pal wii.
The same issue was on the dreamcast Import ISOs, and the PAL Patcher 2.0 made it possible to remove the 50hz code or ad a forced code for every game.
would be cool if we could make a patcher for 480p 60hz so we dont need to use injection.
However there are so damn few N64 games released on the store.