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* Is it legal to decompile an app ?
- No

Isn't decompilation illegal! My application has been decompiled by pepxl.
xFlak is also a beta tester (SMA), I wonder why would he alert me after SMA release. He didn't mention it at all (GPL).
Perfectly clear he has assisted me in how to genarate CIOSs.

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I'll tell you. We certainly thought you were going to go a different way with your app and we thought that you had it all under control. It wasn't until certain things were brought to our attention that we figured out that you had your app doing illegal things. Especially being that you would not share the source, how could anyone have known all the illegal things your app was doing until someone ripped the source from the executable and found your googlecode page with a bunch of things illegally hosted there? Maybe if you were to have been more willing to share the source then we could have caught this for you way in advance. Seriously, don't blame xflak for your many mistakes.

But, how is it illegal to decompile an app? Please explain it to me.
 

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Ok, enough of this. I thought we had this crap behind us. Thread reported for closing.
I agree, but I want my answer of how decompiling an app is illegal before this gets locked because I personally believe it is not illegal, but if it is then I would like to know for sure from someone who knows this stuff for a fact.

So yes, lets put the blame game crap behind us and carry on from it, but there is still no need to close the thread.
 

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I totally agree, let's not blame each other. But I just want to say that during my SMA testing I reported all the bugs\GPL-issues I found immediately after finding them. I noticed the GPL issues behind SMA's old method of building cIOSs and reported it to spayrosam and he was able to fix it before SMA was officially released (yay!). But I never saw the problematic google code page until pepxl told me about it after the release, if I had access to the link before an official release I could have warned you guys sooner, but unfortunately that didn't happen. Anyways, my point is I never purposely (or inadvertently) did anything to hinder SMA development.

Is it legal to decompile an app?? ... good question, I always thought it was (otherwise why can you legally purchase decompiling software?), but I don't know for sure. TBH, this sounds like a question for tueidj :D

In the case of SMA, the source should have been made available to begin with (to adhere with GPL) so regardless whether or not it's illegal to decompile a closed-source app I think decompiling SMA should be fine.
 
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Just to clarify, decompiling an app is not illegal unless otherwise stated by the author (we mostly see this from major corporations like M$, $ony, etc). I've decompiled TONS of programs in the past and nobody has said anything. If decompiling was illegal, it would be much harder to get access to decompilers, but it's not, so there are plenty of choices; IDA, Hopper Disassembler, otool, etc. AFAIK, the only REAL decompiler I know of is IDA, with the HexRays plugin, otherwise it's just a disassembler which gives us assembly code only. Now, my next point, i can't say for sure with your app, but loading your app in a hex editor and doing a unicode string search for http would've most likely given away the googlecode link, so no disassemblers needed there, unless you'll now claim that hex editors are illegal too.
 

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Well guys, looks like you won't have a definite answer for now. I've kept the thread open for a while hoping that spayrosam would come over and tell why and how he deems disassembling as illegal, but anyway this isn't the place for that.

OP requested lock (and you can't say no to that), so that's exactly what I'm gonna do :P
 
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