Method to Play "backups" on unmodded Wii's

[dinofan01]

Nintendo doesn't care about us modding consoles. They know they don't need us; the hardcore. They could still be on top with out us thanks to the casual. Maybe them letting us Mod Wii and making crappy firmware is them honoring the hardcore. We are like a secret love affair for Nintendo. Not letting the casual know there still with us giving us benefits.

 

[WB3000]

Its just weird to see someone break a patch that Nintendo made like 3 hours after it was patched, and then turn around and do this in hopes of them making a patch.
I understand why hes doing it and everything, but again its just weird.

Bushing only wants homebrew, and the last 'fix' by Nintendo stopped that. He doesn't want piracy, so he's at least attempting to alert them before it gets out. Of course Bushing won't release anything to harness this, but someone else surely will if they figure it out.

Thing is, who's going to update their Wii now? We've all learned from the last one...

 

[shadow1w2]

Bushing is doing this for good reasons.
Helping Nintendo fix these exploits will keep the machine going longer and keep our homebrew scene a little cleaner.
Hopefully with a little help from them wich would be very benificial to us both.

Whats weird is that Nintendo isn't responding.
Most companies would be right ontop of it or atleast as soon as they found out.
Nintendo seems to be ignoring it so far.

With Bushing letting the world know its possible Nintendo better contact him stat to fix the problem.

However, it seems Nintendo has a thing against Homebrew and sees it all as piracy.
Strange since Nintendo origonally had programing software with the origonal Famicon.
Though the Famicon disk games were real easy to pirate or place onto other disks.

I for one 'hope Nintendo realizes this mistake and works with him to fix the issue.
Bushing himself may not release the exploit, but as long as its still unchecked someone will find it sooner or later. It may be good for us and our pirating ways, but in the long run it helps us all.

You could say this is Nintendo's chance to make friends or enemies. Its alot more complex than that but it definitely will give them a bad image if they ignore this. Accepting the help will make them look a little smarter. Most companies accept this sort of help, theres no reason to just ignore it.
Though I bet they still haven't even seen the darn thing yet.

Even so they have a chance here, don't screw it up Nintendo.

Thing is, who's going to update their Wii now? We've all learned from the last one...

Heh ya, I'm still on 3.2u. The Mii Channel update just isn't worth it.

 

[Rock Raiyu]

From what I can see, people probably won't update there Wii's knowing there is a hack that allows them to play "backups" on an unmodded Wii. Unless Nintendo were to somehow make us update..

 

[dinofan01]

Whats weird is that Nintendo isn't responding.
Most companies would be right ontop of it or atleast as soon as they found out.
Nintendo seems to be ignoring it so far.

Heres the thing though. In no way is Nintendo like most companies. Im sure they actually got his message and is probably getting looked into in Japan right now. They would never respond at let word get out that its possible to play backups on a non chipped Wii.

 

[juggernaut911]

I think if what they found is true, they should release it

 

[shadow1w2]

Whats weird is that Nintendo isn't responding.
Most companies would be right ontop of it or atleast as soon as they found out.
Nintendo seems to be ignoring it so far.

Heres the thing though. In no way is Nintendo like most companies. Im sure they actually got his message and is probably getting looked into in Japan right now. They would never respond at let word get out that its possible to play backups on a non chipped Wii.

That would be rather immature.
Every machine gets hacked one way or the other.
Every machine can have a vurnability that hinders it considerably.
They aren't gonna loose stock holders just cuase they said "Well, ya, the machine has a problem, but we fixed it."
Nothing in this world is perfect, you can't be so pride struck that you won't even buy a new shoelace to fix your shoe.

Though then again, maybe Nintendo just isn't that smart.

Either way, I hope Nintendo does the smart thing and works with him to fix it.
Maybe learn that Homebrew is a good thing and its here to stay.
Piracy just depends on how its used.

I do agree with some of the other comments though.
Probly even with the exploit out and used to make an ISO loader Nintendo will probly not even see a dent and still get the same profits.

Only time will tell what happens next.

 

[dinofan01]

Whats weird is that Nintendo isn't responding.
Most companies would be right ontop of it or atleast as soon as they found out.
Nintendo seems to be ignoring it so far.

Heres the thing though. In no way is Nintendo like most companies. Im sure they actually got his message and is probably getting looked into in Japan right now. They would never respond at let word get out that its possible to play backups on a non chipped Wii.

That would be rather immature.
Every machine gets hacked one way or the other.
Every machine can have a vurnability that hinders it considerably.
They aren't gonna loose stock holders just cuase they said "Well, ya, the machine has a problem, but we fixed it."
Nothing in this world is perfect, you can't be so pride struck that you won't even buy a new shoelace to fix your shoe.

Though then again, maybe Nintendo just isn't that smart.

Either way, I hope Nintendo does the smart thing and works with him to fix it.
Maybe learn that Homebrew is a good thing and its here to stay.
Piracy just depends on how its used.

I do agree with some of the other comments though.
Probly even with the exploit out and used to make an ISO loader Nintendo will probly not even see a dent and still get the same profits.

Only time will tell what happens next.

My money is Nintendo not being smart..only in terms of certain thing. Come on they had the latest firmware for 3 months but it only took hackers 3 hours to find 2 exploits(wrong term? IDK).

 

[Mooshywooshy]

Yeah Mario Galaxy still sold 6.1 million copies world wide, I doubt subtracting like 1000 people from that kind of number would bother Nintendo that much.
Well im sure more than 1000 people would softmod their systems, but you get the idea.

 

[podunk1269]

hell they would sell 1000 or more copies of zelda for the exploit

 

[Mooshywooshy]

Haha so true!

 

[shadow1w2]

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My money is Nintendo not being smart..only in terms of certain thing. Come on they had the latest firmware for 3 months but it only took hackers 3 hours to find 2 exploits(wrong term? IDK).
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Just cause their patchs aren't done all that well doesn't mean they don't know what their doing.
I do agree they are going about this all the wrong way.
Though if they really wanted to stop the homebrew scene they could do some more drastic measures. Though that would make them look horrible to the people that gave their machine its edge at the start of it's life. You know, the hardcore gamers.
Nintendo is definitely not doing the smart thing, but that doesn't mean they don't have any tricks up their sleeve.
Though perhaps someone up in Nintendo land likes us and is keeping things easy.
Its hard to tell really.

Those patchs sure seemed very futile though.
Perhaps we just have some very talented coders in the scene.
Heh, no doubt we do. xD

Yeah Mario Galaxy still sold 6.1 million copies world wide, I doubt subtracting like 1000 people from that kind of number would bother Nintendo that much.
Well im sure more than 1000 people would softmod their systems, but you get the idea.
True, as far as the math goes they wouldn't really loose much of anything.
Especialy with the casual "gamer" eating up every plastic add-on and shovelware they see.

QUOTE(podunk1269 @ Jul 17 2008, 04:49 PM) hell they would sell 1000 or more copies of zelda for the exploit

I do hope the Zelda:TP Wii version's price will go down when the next Zelda game is out.
It's still 50 bucks around here. I had to rent a copy to try out the Homebrew Channel when it was released.