Looking at the Wii U Graphics Processor

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    Another member posted this in the Wii U hacking progress thread. Pretty cool stuff huh? Seemed like a LOT of mystery still with that GPU.
     
  3. ddrrmm

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    very disappointing specs though, no match for durango/orbis
     
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    You have specs for them?
    Plz do share !!
     
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    http://gbatemp.net/threads/hacking-the-wiiu-a-simple-progress-guide.338900/page-19[​IMG]

     
  7. ddrrmm

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    looking something like this
    Wii U
    3 x OOE CPU at 1.2 ghz
    ~300-400 Gflops GPU (???)
    2GB T1 SRAM @ 12.8 GB/s (???)
    32MB eDRAM @ 140 GB/s (???)
    1MB sRAM/eDRAM (???)

    Durango
    6 x OOE CPU at 1.6 ghz
    1.243 Gflops GPU (3 - 4x more than Wii U)
    8GB DDR3 RAM @ 68GB/s (4x more than the Wii U, ~5x faster than the Wii U)
    32MB eSRAM @ 102GB/s (Not edram)

    Orbis
    6 x OOE CPU at 1.6 ghz
    1.843 Gflops GPU (5-6x more than Wii U; 1,5x more than Durango)
    4GB GDDR5 RAM @ 176 GB/s (2x more than Wii U, 15x faster than Wii U; 0.5x less than Durango, 2.5x faster than Durango)
    0MB eDram @ 0MB/s (Infinitely less than Wii U; Infinitely less than Durango)

    if you were specifically talking about the gpu, its comparable to the radeon hd4650/4670 series (lower clockspeed though and less texture units).I think these cards were released in 2008/2009 so were essentially talking about a 4-5 year old gpu.



    not really up to date are we now?
     
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    generated?
    ever heard of devkits? don't u think those have specs? don't you think there are leaks?? Not everything might be 100% correct but this is what its looking like whether you like it or not

    here gpu details off durango for example, but nah you probably dont believe anything.. lmfao @ you getting owned
    [​IMG]
     
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    We will see. Honestly, might buy 720 or PS4 once hacked;-). Had Wii and 360;-). Sony and Microsoft go overkill. Always have but what sells? If they want $400 or more a unit, in this economy, good luck. If they work out and one is hacked, then I get my Zelda, Metroid games AND get my shooters/sports on one of the monsters. Dev kits don't always translate to consumer model specs either;-). We will see;-)
     
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    Durango and Orbis specs have been available for quite a while, and considering sony is hold a press conference on feb 20th to more than likely unveil Ps3 Successor, the dev kits just sent out in Jan will prob be pretty close to final specs, I think i will go for the PS4 if all durango info is accurate, either way alot of info is availble on it, Heres some more Durango info to go with table above
    Warning: Spoilers inside!

    ORBIS (PS4 Devkit Specs)
    Warning: Spoilers inside!
     
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    The hardware doesn't make the console a success. History has proved this numerous times. Focus too much on power, your console is SOL.

    DS vs PSP = DS wins
    3DS vs PS Vita = 3DS wins
    Wii vs PS3 and Xbox 360 = Wii wins
    PSX vs N64 = PSX wins
    PS2 vs Gamecube and Xbox = PS2 wins
    Snes vs Genesis = Snes wins
    GBA vs WonderSwan Color and Neo Geo Pocket = GBA wins

    See the pattern? More powerful hardware doesn't make a console a success. Same with games with flashy graphics. A game can be beautifully rendered and still suck balls, you know, Final Fantasy XIII, Lair to name a few. You know why Nintendo doesn't focus on raw power.
     
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    For f**k's sake, the_randomizer, STOP hijacking threads.
     
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    I don't know how you can say this. I understand the Wii sold like hot cakes in it's first few years, but since then the 360 has led monthly sales.
    When it comes to volume of games sold, the Wii isn't even in the same league as PS3 and 360.

    Also when it comes to developer support, the Wii lost most developer interest a few years ago. It's mostly shovelware.
    The AAA developers have focused on the 360 and PS3, spending multimillions in development and getting very good return on their investment.
    If you asked the developers why they didn't bother with Wii, it's due to inferior hardware. They would have needed to design a completely different version of their game because the Wii couldn't run their game engine, and had they done that, they wouldn't have sold as well as the 360/PS3 versions.
    Only now are some of those of those titles ported to Wii-u (Batman, Assassins Creed).

    Don't get me wrong, I love the Wii for it's first party titles. The Wii broke ground with it's motion control. It also captured a market of casual gamers that weren't otherwise interested in buying consoles.
    The problem is, that market let their Wii's collect dust and didn't buy new titles... hence developers losing interest.

    Listen, I agree with you that the very best hardware isn't needed to move games, I just disagree with your list.

    And are you trying to say that the Genesis was more powerful than Super Nintendo?
     
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    The CPU was faster than the Snes, but the Snes had a better APU (audio) and PPU (graphics) than the Genesis.
     
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    Fair enough.
     
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    But yeah, I grew up on the Snes, ultimately getting me hooked on Nintendo since 1993 :P
     
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    Anyone have a die picture of the snes gpu?
     
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    Not quite the GPU or even the main processor but this is the first thing I found in Google
    http://byuu.org/articles/emulation/snes-coprocessors
    I know their just coprocessors but MAN things were a lot simpler back then.
     
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    Actually, the Snes CPU was 3.58 MHz, but the Super FX chip was 21 MHz.
     
  52. Ray Lewis

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    PSX was NOT 3.2 GHZ, with "9 Cores"; show proof of that. Modern processors would be that speed.