If piracy disappeared

[Thesolcity]

In a pratical sense, since piracy = copyright infringement, how would you make it disappear? Would we have to adopt communist principals and abolish copyright that way? In that sense, nothing would be "pirating" because no one holds the rights and its public domain. Look to any communist country to see how that works out.

 

[Ace Overclocked]

if piracy disappeared many people would lose their jobs in 3rd world countries like tunisia, there are stores selling pirated games and modding consoles for a very high price because there are no copyrightz, it's really bad to do that stuff so they would deserve it, but original games there are very overpriced so they are needed.

 

[NES SNES V.B. N64 G.C. Wii WiiU]

If piracy disappeared Console manufacturers would start losing money in poorer countries, as they can't afford to buy games. Otherwise not much.

Second-hand sales are a bigger problem than piracy.

 

[CCNaru]

I only buy games because I can't pirate it.

Unless it was on Steam.

so I bought a bunch of Steam games and PS3 games (4.00OFW)

 

[T-hug]

I don't pirate games anymore anyway, movies I do, but I have the same stance as games, if I had to pay for movies, I wouldn't watch hardly any.
The age old argument still comes to light; 'they are not losing money as I wouldn't buy them if I had to, but as I can pirate them I try more out'. This relates to movies and games.
Truth is they are so overpriced that is why they are pirated. I mean £20 for a 2 hour bluray movie? We know it probably costs around £1 to burn and package.
If games were say £10-£25, and movies £5-£10, I think both industrys would see a huge rise in sales, and consumers would be happy as they wouldn't feel like they are getting ripped off.
UK already has one of the highest tax brackets in the world, I think that it is £50k a year and over, you pay 50% tax, 50%! That is absurd. Where is the incentive to work and earn when you are just going to basically be legally robbed of half your money.

 

[CCNaru]

I don't pirate games anymore anyway, movies I do, but I have the same stance as games, if I had to pay for movies, I wouldn't watch hardly any.
The age old argument still comes to light; 'they are not losing money as I wouldn't buy them if I had to, but as I can pirate them I try more out'. This relates to movies and games.
Truth is they are so overpriced that is why they are pirated. I mean £20 for a 2 hour bluray movie? We know it probably costs are £1 to burn and package.
If games were say £10-£25, and movies £5-£10, i think both industrys would see a huge rise in sales, and consumers would be happy as they don't feel like they are getting ripped off.
UK already has one of the highest tax brackets in the world, I think that it is £50k a year and over, you pay 50% tax, 50% that is absurd. Where is the incentive to work and earn when you are just going to basically be legally robbed of half your money.

This is just ignorant. People always complain that they take too much profit, but clearly don't know where they need to spend and where they earn money. What about the cost to ship out the DVDs all over the US, money that original filmmakers get (rob) (directors, staffs, actors/actresses, drivers, etc - not all movies make up to margin and have to make money off dvd sales and stuff), license to publish, cover designs, all the money spent on advertising... do these companies pay these people out of their ass? they make a lot of money because they have a HUGE market. I'd be a millionaire too if our business was a chain store all over the US. There are a lot more than just a single dvd that you get. Why do theatres charge like $10 for a single viewing of a movie then? you don't even get to keep it, you're pressured to buy snacks which are at least 3x overpriced, and you have to pay gas to actually get to these theatres which should probably be well worth the price of the DVDs.

and loltax why? you guys have medicare i thought? it's Europe?

 

[T-hug]

How is it ignorant? The fact is stuff is overpriced. A film that costs £10,000 to make will cost the same to buy on a bluray as a film that cost £100,000,000.
If a company wants to make a good profit, then don't pay your actors tens of millions of dollars per movie and then sting the end consumer to get it back.
Cinemas are ludicrously overpriced, which is why I'll probably see one movie a year if that, only something that I am really interested in.

The UK comes under Europe (not for much longer, joining the EU was the biggest mistake in British history), but we do not use the same currency or have anywhere near the same tax rates, assuming so would also be ignorant.

 

[Majorami]

It should be noted that Copyright Infringment and Piracy used to be two different things. It wasn't until Youtube and like-sites where sharing user generated content on a massive scale, that the media industry started melding Copyright infringement and piracy to be one in the same problem. Though Piracy IS Copyright infringement, Copyright Infringement isn't always piracy. Its only been in better half of the last decade, about a year or two before the viacom lawsuit against Youtube that people have been using these two different terms as one. Although it can be argued that the media industry has always considered them the same because all they care about is having all the sharing and creativity to stop.

Its because of the changing the meaning and phrase of "Copyright infringement isn't always piracy" into "Copyright infringement IS piracy" that videos like the following are demonized into "piracy" category/territory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQuqeLBTetA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I0TRMGEIS8

^Pretty entertaining and creative if you ask me. It can be argued that they're original creations out of something old. However this is now considered piracy when piracy USED to mean the copying and unauthorized selling of copyrighted material for commercial purposes.

So if you asked "What if piracy disappeared" then the answer would be that the United States would be THE most oppressive country in the world. And if piracy dissapeared in the entire world, it'd be a pretty lifeless and joyess world to be in.

Besides, you can't stop piracy. even oppressive China and Korea just blatenly copy big and large branding, like all those "fake" Apple stores in China.

 

[Zetta_x]

Just imagine a scenario where everyone for some reason got brainwashed and paid for everything they wanted to buy. What I mean about this is not pay for everything they would pirate but for some materials they legitimately were going to buy. Obviously it requires the mindset of humans to not want to pirate in order for piracy to disappear as many people said: there will always be a way for piracy.

I am just taking public opinions, it seems to be a general conscientious that the world would be in a worse place without piracy.

 

[CCNaru]

How is it ignorant? The fact is stuff is overpriced. A film that costs £10,000 to make will cost the same to buy on a bluray as a film that cost £100,000,000.
If a company wants to make a good profit, then don't pay your actors tens of millions of dollars per movie and then sting the end consumer to get it back.
Cinemas are ludicrously overpriced, which is why I'll probably see one movie a year if that, only something that I am really interested in.

The UK comes under Europe (not for much longer, joining the EU was the biggest mistake in British history), but we do not use the same currency or have anywhere near the same tax rates, assuming so would also be ignorant.

What are you gonna make with a $10k budget? Youtube movies? Eraserhead, an indie movie from 1977 had a $20k out of pocket budget. I don't really think it's possible to make a movie with $10k budget that will actually be made into a DVD that can turn to profit, unless it was a huge box-office/sleeper hit (very hard even for higher budget films), has a cult following or unless the producer was friends with the licensing company and made them have DVDs (lol).

Also the DVDs prices drops soon if you wait a bit. Harry Potter 7 pt2 DVDs are like $15 right now, and Batman movies are like 7-10 bucks... unlike games which are like $30-40 bucks after 2-3 years, movies drop in prices by tons.

And you could say I'm ignorant, I've never visited UK or anywhere near Europe, and personally I don't think I could really care if I don't have any plans to even visit there soon; but what does piracy have to do with paying taxes, anyways?

 

[Zetta_x]

How is it ignorant? The fact is stuff is overpriced. A film that costs £10,000 to make will cost the same to buy on a bluray as a film that cost £100,000,000.
If a company wants to make a good profit, then don't pay your actors tens of millions of dollars per movie and then sting the end consumer to get it back.
Cinemas are ludicrously overpriced, which is why I'll probably see one movie a year if that, only something that I am really interested in.

The UK comes under Europe (not for much longer, joining the EU was the biggest mistake in British history), but we do not use the same currency or have anywhere near the same tax rates, assuming so would also be ignorant.

What are you gonna make with a $10k budget? Youtube movies? Eraserhead, an indie movie from 1977 had a $20k out of pocket budget. I don't really think it's possible to make a movie with $10k budget that will actually be made into a DVD that can turn to profit, unless it was a huge box-office/sleeper hit (very hard even for higher budget films), has a cult following or unless the producer was friends with the licensing company and made them have DVDs (lol).

Also the DVDs prices drops soon if you wait a bit. Harry Potter 7 pt2 DVDs are like $15 right now, and Batman movies are like 7-10 bucks... unlike games which are like $30-40 bucks after 2-3 years, movies drop in prices by tons.

And you could say I'm ignorant, I've never visited UK or anywhere near Europe, and personally I don't think I could really care if I don't have any plans to even visit there soon; but what does piracy have to do with paying taxes, anyways?

http://en.wikipedia....normal_Activity
Budget: $15k
Box Office: $193,355,800

I'm pretty sure a lot of the older movies were on low budget too. One reason why a movie requires such a high budget is because actors are paid ass tons... I mean just mounds of money for acting. Multiply that by half a dozen people and you get the worlds most expensive movie. They should get paid less than 80k a year. That's how you know the world is ass backwards when the most unimportant people are making the most amount of money. Then these media groups attempt to grab as much attention as possible to entertainment people so their next movie would be more popular. It's a sketchy field but they are successful in almost every way in captivating the average person into giving them their money.

The reason why budgets need to go so high in the first place is to compete with other movie producers. It's really all of the movie producer's fault for driving the price so high and yet they blame us when we pirate...

The government has this idea that people who pirate = less revenue for giant movie corporations = less items that are taxed = less money for the government.

 

[T-hug]

How is it ignorant? The fact is stuff is overpriced. A film that costs £10,000 to make will cost the same to buy on a bluray as a film that cost £100,000,000.
If a company wants to make a good profit, then don't pay your actors tens of millions of dollars per movie and then sting the end consumer to get it back.
Cinemas are ludicrously overpriced, which is why I'll probably see one movie a year if that, only something that I am really interested in.

The UK comes under Europe (not for much longer, joining the EU was the biggest mistake in British history), but we do not use the same currency or have anywhere near the same tax rates, assuming so would also be ignorant.

What are you gonna make with a $10k budget? Youtube movies? Eraserhead, an indie movie from 1977 had a $20k out of pocket budget. I don't really think it's possible to make a movie with $10k budget that will actually be made into a DVD that can turn to profit, unless it was a huge box-office/sleeper hit (very hard even for higher budget films), has a cult following or unless the producer was friends with the licensing company and made them have DVDs (lol).

Also the DVDs prices drops soon if you wait a bit. Harry Potter 7 pt2 DVDs are like $15 right now, and Batman movies are like 7-10 bucks... unlike games which are like $30-40 bucks after 2-3 years, movies drop in prices by tons.

And you could say I'm ignorant, I've never visited UK or anywhere near Europe, and personally I don't think I could really care if I don't have any plans to even visit there soon; but what does piracy have to do with paying taxes, anyways?

Paranormal Activity One of many examples.
Budget $15,000 (estimated)
Profit $193,355,800 (Worldwide)
Also it isn't just movies, even a TV show with 6 episodes will cost the same as a blockbuster movie on bluray, or a few £ less sometimes.
Sony charging £44.99 for Uncharted on Vita is another good example, it is just greed.

What does piracy have to do with paying taxes? Really? Taxation on a product in this country is 22.5%, that is GREED. More profit and more tax which = high cost = FU I'll just pirate it.

I didn't call you ignorant.


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lol @ Zetta_x, great example ;p