Hacking Ievo from cyclops

[sightlight]

Im going to be in need for a card to run homebrew on since im a coder.. http://z15.invisionfree.com/AwsomiSoft/index.php?
But what I am getting is a 3ds, What do you guys recommend me?
the cyclops runs on DSi mode on the 3ds?

 

[RoMee]

the cyclops runs on DSi mode on the 3ds?

nope, on the 3DS, iEVO's DSi mode does not work

 

[sightlight]

do they seen the possibility it will, soon?

 

[Evo.lve]

I've not been following the DS flashcart on 3DS thing since I honestly couldn't care less, but maybe the US/EU bootstrap would work in DSi mode on a US/EU 3DS?

 

[twiztidsinz]

the cyclops runs on DSi mode on the 3ds?

nope, on the 3DS, iEVO's DSi mode does not work

Source?

It was announced before that the iEvo didn't work in DSi mode on the JAPANESE 3DS because they didn't have a JAPANESE bootloader. The bootloader mimics a game, and since DSi games are region locked, the US bootloader won't work on a system that is not a US model.

 

[RoMee]

The iEVO has a lot of issues with homebrew in DSi mode.

 

[bigpaws]

dsi mode does not work on 3ds
source

 

[RoMee]

dsi mode does not work on 3ds
source

Thanks bigpaw
I forgot where I read that

 

[notmeanymore]

Not to be a dick, but I hope the exploit is patched. If Nintendo can't even patch that for the 3DS, there's no way they could claim to have the best anti-piracy.

 

[Rydian]

Not to be a dick, but I hope the exploit is patched. If Nintendo can't even patch that for the 3DS, there's no way they could claim to have the best anti-piracy.

Here's the short version...
[*]They can't increase DS security.[*]So far DSi security has just been the same thing as on the DSi, where a change of header spoofing bypasses it since keeping all the info for all games in the DSi to check would take up too much space.[*]3DS security, nobody has a clue on, and it can be completely different than DS/i security.

 

[Cyan]

The two videos showing Cyclo DSi not working were also posted on GBAtemp :
http://gbatemp.net/t282909-eu-3ds-flashcards-testing

He said the 3DS Firmware was 1.0.0, not the updated one.

 

[notmeanymore]

Not to be a dick, but I hope the exploit is patched. If Nintendo can't even patch that for the 3DS, there's no way they could claim to have the best anti-piracy.

Here's the short version...
[*]They can't increase DS security.[*]So far DSi security has just been the same thing as on the DSi, where a change of header spoofing bypasses it since keeping all the info for all games in the DSi to check would take up too much space.[*]3DS security, nobody has a clue on, and it can be completely different than DS/i security.

You failed to mention the Cooking Coach exploit which is the exploit to which I was referring. I'm pretty sure Nintendo is capable of fixing that exploit on the 3DS. At least, it's more likely than them fixing DS-mode exploits.

 

[spinal_cord]

[*]They can't increase DS security.

Don't the current DS mode cart that work on the DSi work by spoofing a real game for awhile, until it's time to load, then pass the cart menu instead of the game? Surely Nintendo could easily patch this by checking the data a second time, once it is in RAM? Then if the RAM contents don't match the cart's reported contents, then just don't execute.

 

[bigpaws]

thats what i thought they could do too

and its not hard to block dsi mode since there is what, only 3 or 4 games that could use it
just adding extra checks to those games would end dsi mode possiblility

and the 3ds mode has only a 1% chance of being hacked and staying hacked unless someone can do cfw and still have 3ds games run

 

[Rydian]

You failed to mention the Cooking Coach exploit which is the exploit to which I was referring. I'm pretty sure Nintendo is capable of fixing that exploit on the 3DS. At least, it's more likely than them fixing DS-mode exploits.I'm referring to getting unsigned things to run on the system.

QUOTE(spinal_cord @ Mar 13 2011, 02:11 PM) Don't the current DS mode cart that work on the DSi work by spoofing a real game for awhile, until it's time to load, then pass the cart menu instead of the game? Surely Nintendo could easily patch this by checking the data a second time, once it is in RAM? Then if the RAM contents don't match the cart's reported contents, then just don't execute.

Yes, and this is what they do when a flash cart is blocked with an update.

They don't add to checks to every game (just known ones faked by flash carts) because of size constraints.

 

[notmeanymore]

You failed to mention the Cooking Coach exploit which is the exploit to which I was referring. I'm pretty sure Nintendo is capable of fixing that exploit on the 3DS. At least, it's more likely than them fixing DS-mode exploits.

I'm referring to getting unsigned things to run on the system.

And how is the Cooking Coach exploit, the very basis of how the iEvo gets into DSi mode, not a method of running unsigned code?

 

[Rydian]

DS things.

 

[bigpaws]

size constraints are no problem for dsi mode since there are so few that would work with that exploit

 

[spinal_cord]

You failed to mention the Cooking Coach exploit which is the exploit to which I was referring. I'm pretty sure Nintendo is capable of fixing that exploit on the 3DS. At least, it's more likely than them fixing DS-mode exploits.I'm referring to getting unsigned things to run on the system.

QUOTE(spinal_cord @ Mar 13 2011, 02:11 PM) Don't the current DS mode cart that work on the DSi work by spoofing a real game for awhile, until it's time to load, then pass the cart menu instead of the game? Surely Nintendo could easily patch this by checking the data a second time, once it is in RAM? Then if the RAM contents don't match the cart's reported contents, then just don't execute.

Yes, and this is what they do when a flash cart is blocked with an update.

They don't add to checks to every game (just known ones faked by flash carts) because of size constraints.

Why would there be size constraints, just checking if what is in RAM is the same as what is on the cart wouldn't take extra space for each game as it would be the same process.

 

[bigpaws]

i think that could be exploited though to

if it was only that, then we would have the header say it was a dstwo and the cart would work

even then, it could make some check but heres another problem
what in the ram is supposed to tell it is a certain game if nothing specific is in the ram for a game
they cant change the loaded ram so they must list the snippits to find in the ram

otherwise, if it just went off of text for the title in the ram, that can be simulated by a cart like the dstwo
it doesnt make sence for ram checks that were not designed in
3ds is different and can be so