[Idea] Possible Upcoming haxchi installation exploit (testers needed)

Discussion in 'Wii U - Hacking & Backup Loaders' started by tunip3, Jul 21, 2017.

  1. tunip3
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    A new method of installing haxchi on 5.5.2 has been discovered by me which does not Have to have been previously installed when on 5.5.1 in preparation for the release I need at least 2 testers but the requirements are one wiiu hardmodded on 5.5.1 and one wiiu on 5.5.2 pm for details this will come out after testing.
     


  2. DeadlyFoez

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    I am half tempted to call BS on this, but I will not. Instead I want to hear what your idea is. I think I have an idea on what you are thinking, and if I am correct on it then your idea will not work, but I hope I am wrong. So spill some beans man.
     
  3. Kafluke

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    Don't discount it so soon.


    He has a good idea. I've spoken with him in the pm test thread. I just don't want to tear down my last Wii U to try. Maybe I'll start hunting around the pawn shops for another.

    I can hear my wife now... "Another Wii U"?
     
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    No. PoC needed. Thread can be locked until then.
     
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    seeing your previous endeavors im just gonna sit back and watch this burn
     
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    Explain, please, I want to hear your level of understanding.
     
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    can't wait to see this exploit :00
    good job OP
     
  8. DeadlyFoez

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    If it is something that will require the per console key of the wii u on 5.5.2, well then you are shit out of luck on getting it.

    Really. Just spill the beans on it. I may be willing to help depending on what is involved. PM me if you don't want to publicly announce it yet.
     
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    I have my Wii U 5.5.2 spoofed. May I help?
     
  11. Kafluke

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    If this works it will require you to have (or give your Wii U to someone who has) a 5.5.1 Wii U with a teensy++ 2.0 installed.

    So you'll need an existing hardmodded Wii U to help someone with 5.5.2 firmware
     
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    Is it the same as what I came up with here.

    https://gbatemp.net/threads/feel-li...-on-5-5-2-if-you-have-otp-and-seeprom.478207/

    5.5.2 consoles would need OTP and SEEPROM dumps, so its not really an entryway that everyone is able to do.
     
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    Okay here's my take on this idea, it's not an exploit, tunip3 has not created, exploited or done anything that would be noted as a convenient, useful or reasonable idea. This would probably work, but frankly, it's stupid. His idea is basically the concept of dsiwarehax transferring on the 3ds (the act of exploiting dsiware and then transferring it to another system.) I'm not sure he's taken an actual good thought about his idea, cause he missed some very, very obvious skips. His full idea is basically to install haxchi on title using hachihachi (ds emulator used on wiiu) and system transfer this to another console, with the prerequisites being to backup your nand, format your system and then transfer and after restoring the nand back with a hardmod (thus making it a necessity).


    I don't think he's put a lot of thought into it at all, it's kinda stupid, it requires purchasing the haxchi game again and paying for (or doing) and purchasing another console if you don't have one to do this with. Just no, it's a nice idea, really, but @tunip3, you didn't put any thought into this. It really seems like more of a call for attention then an actual idea that you're planning to have made readily available and become the next way of hacking the Wii U.


    Back to the not putting a lot of thought into it, seems like he didn't even bother to think about alternatives to a hardmod, for instance we have redNAND, a readily available public resource that's in multiple firmware patchers (cfws), here are some other ways of accomplishing what you have hypothesized and what other things could be done to solve this problem of no haxchi on 5.5.2 @tunip3.

    • Like I stated in the first bit of this section, redNAND. A much superior alternative then using a hardmod and fucking over your sysNAND. It's a sandbox, this is stuff redNAND is meant for.
    • Get a new entrypoint, may be a stretch to some of you, but all we really need is a webkit exploit, think of it like 3ds homebrew. Whenever browserhax is patched a new entrypoint is made available within months. Waiting may be a better alternative to spending to much money on this.
    • Expanding on the money part. This method requires purchasing a hardmod (or doing your own, but really the general public is not going to be able to hardmod their systems) which is around $50, purchasing another haxchi title $7 and requires purchasing another console. Honestly, it's extremely redundant. Another fucking console, just to hack the first one, for gods sake just wait for another entrypoint instead of spending a good $150 to get yourself homebrew on a single dead console.
    • A much easier way to get homebrew on your console would be just sell the box and get another one, they're extremely cheap.

    Concluding my rant on this, arguably useless thread, I feel like @tunip3 just wants fame, it honestly seems like he doesn't care enough to think about it, I genuinely think he just wants to be known as the one to first invent this new method (which is really just a stolen 3ds method.) And it's a really, really bad idea. It's extremely inconvenient and really shouldn't exist in the first place. Honestly, just wait for a new entrypoint, this is not worth your time or your money. Please @tunip3, think about what you're going to post, this is just creating useless hype for something that could be accomplished by just selling your current console and purchasing another console, instead of hardmodding and buying more haxchi games.


    This concludes my rant, please, this is not worth your time guys, please just wait for a new entrypoint.


    tl;dr
    JUST WAIT FOR A NEW ENTRYPOINT, THIS IS NOT WORTH YOUR TIME, MONEY OR EFFORT.
     
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    As what @iAqua said, this is not really anything new. Pay no attention. No further discussion is required, to be honest, and this doesn't need to be on the home page and bumped by 11 year olds calling devs lazy for not releasing new entry points and kexploits. If you've updated to 5.5.2, you can no longer get or use your free games, and frankly, that's a good thing. :)
     
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    Perfect description, please lock this mods, atleast until a PoC is shown.
     
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    Just what I thought it would be. So you would need the per console key of the wii u that is on 5.5.2 to be able to inject haxchi (or other exploit) onto the system. Totally not possible at this point if you never dumped the keys prior to it being updated. Stupid. Useless. Attention seeking.

    EDIT: Actually, his idea is even dumber. My idea could possibly work, but it would be nearly as stupid.
     
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    As been said his idea is basically the concept of dsiwarehax and dsiwarehax was a very good idea in 3DS scene. Don't blame him because you guys think his idea is stupid, it's not. Just don't worth the effort.
     
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    Hey guys. Let's not be mean. Let's be a family. If the idea is good, lets flesh it out. If it won't work, lets explain why and find alternatives.

    I don't believe there is any malice in this thread. We're all frustrated at the 5.5.2 update. Let's show Nintendo that were stronger than them and break this!
     
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    While I understand the concept is a good idea for the 3ds system, it doesn't fit well with the wii u, especially with a required hardmod.
     
  20. LongDongSilver

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    The idea is a very plausible way to get an exploit, but its just too much work for something that can (probably) be done way more easily in a few months. You guys can go ahead and develop it but don't expect alot of use