How has Vimm's Lair stayed up so long?

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It seems as nobody knows for certain. Some say its because they only have older ROMS posted or might be because the site runs as a non profit.
 

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It seems as nobody knows for certain. Some say its because they only have older ROMS posted or might be because the site runs as a non profit.
Most Rom sites do that too. The site Romnation only has snes and nes roms but Nintendo still took them down. so how could vimm do the same and not get took down? Maybe its servers are located out of the country.
 

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Vimm's Lair has been running since 1997. How has it stayed up so long without Nintendo suing them into oblivion?
That's actually a brilliant question, I'm not even entirely sure on how Vimm keeps it up but kudos to him regardless.

For speculation I'd say that because of his 2 gen vault rule that only currently rules out 7th gen to be acceptable, Wii, PS3 and 360 that doesn't seem to be a priority for takedown by many major companies thus.

It also helps that he is a non-profit, unlike others he doesn't take donations and has adds but it's pretty much to pay for his expensive hosting the servers.

Say what you will but the shear fact that only Vimm and a few people Keeped the site alive for nearly 25 years is nothing short of remarkable and astounding.

But the factual reason, IDK you'll have to find a way to ask Vimm.
 
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That's actually a brilliant question, I'm not even entirely sure on how Vimm keeps it up but kudos to him regardless.

For speculation I'd say that because of his 2 gen vault rule that only currently rules out 7th gen to be acceptable, Wii, PS3 and 360 that doesn't seem to be a priority for takedown by many major companies thus.

It also helps that he is a non-profit, unlike others he doesn't take donations and has adds but it's pretty much to pay for his expensive hosting the servers.

Say what you will but the shear fact that only Vimm and a few people Keeped the site alive for nearly 25 years is nothing short of remarkable and astounding.

But the factual reason, IDK you'll have to find a way to ask Vimm.
Hello! I actually recognize you from the message board!
I've attempted asking Vimm on the message board, Sadly i didn't get a response. I was curious because I agree, the fact he has kept it alive for 25 years is truly remarkable.
 

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Hello! I actually recognize you from the message board!
I've attempted asking Vimm on the message board, Sadly i didn't get a response. I was curious because I agree, the fact he has kept it alive for 25 years is truly remarkable.
Yea, same Tom Riddle from the message boards.

You know what? Maybe sometimes, mysteries should never solved in life and the website of Vimm being up as long as it was should remain a mystery.

The benefit of website of Vimm being up is still a damn fine positive, mystery solved or not
 
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When Megaupload went down, it was because they had servers in the USA. So my understanding from that is: you need to keep the copyrighted material out of law-enforcement's jurisdiction.
 
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They have stayed up because they have a policy that you shouldn't download the game if you don't already own it. Therefore, it is completely legal and makes sense to have the ability to download games on a console, rather than having to remove the disc and switch them.
 

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They have stayed up because they have a policy that you shouldn't download the game if you don't already own it. Therefore, it is completely legal and makes sense to have the ability to download games on a console, rather than having to remove the disc and switch them.
That’s literally not how the law works. Distributing copyrighted files is copyright infringement, that’s the crime still being committed
 

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