Homebrew Homebrew Development

[Bond697]

its always good to look down and laugh at children learning to walk lol....always makes me feel better about myself ....why help it spoils the fun

i started from literally nothing but the gateway launcher a few days before christmas and never even got that cheat sheet piece that's been mentioned on here for help until after i had already figured out everything on it. now i can do a lot 6 weeks later. you're welcome to do the same. then you might actually be able to help.

 

[gamesquest1]

i started from literally nothing but the gateway launcher a few days before christmas and never even got that cheat sheet piece that's been mentioned on here for help until after i had already figured out everything on it. now i can do a lot 6 weeks later. you're welcome to do the same. then you might actually be able to help.

ok but the issue is....why bother acting a douche, I'm not saying I'm a coder, but if you see people doing something and think "oooohhh i can do that dead easy" what do you do
A) you want them to learn so you just keep quiet and leave them to it
B) you offer a bit of help maybe not doing all the work but a few tips
C) come out and mock people because you are so much better than them

also your now saying you looked at gateways code......so there you go you aren't as good at doing everything yourself as you would like everyone to believe

ps im not saying you aren't a good coder, but your attitude could do with a tweak or 2

 

[TheCruel]

i started from literally nothing but the gateway launcher a few days before christmas and never even got that cheat sheet piece that's been mentioned on here for help until after i had already figured out everything on it. now i can do a lot 6 weeks later. you're welcome to do the same. then you might actually be able to help.

but at the moment I found only the 3D slider state register at 0x1014470C.

Nice, but I'm not getting anything there. It's a 4-byte float, right?

 

[Huntereb]

Let's give up guys, we didn't realize it would be a challenge. [/sarcasm]

 

[Bond697]

ok but the issue is....why bother acting a douche, I'm not saying I'm a coder, but if you see people doing something and think "oooohhh i can do that dead easy" what do you do
A) you want them to learn so you just keep quiet and leave them to it
B) you offer a bit of help maybe not doing all the work but a few tips
C) come out and mock people because you are so much better than them

also your now saying you looked at gateways code......so there you go you aren't as good at doing everything yourself as you would like everyone to believe

ps im not saying you aren't a good coder, but your attitude could do with a tweak or 2

i did the exact same thing everybody else did, including smea, profi, and others. so clearly none of us are, then. and there was no code, just long series of bytes.

and i did tell them this was the wrong way to go about it. which means maybe go back and think about it some more and consider other options instead of taking it as some kind of personal attack.

 

[gamesquest1]

its not personal, i'm not a coder i wouldn't even know where to begin, but you know a little bit of modesty would go a long way, if you want to help someone PM them, you dont have to try publicly humiliate them because they did something wrong, or not as perfect as what you could do, it just comes across smug and arrogant.

 

[the_randomizer]

lol at hacking elitism.

Hacker elitism is what ruins hacking scenes in general

 

[PewnyPL]

f you see people doing something and think "oooohhh i can do that dead easy"

I never said I can do it, or that I am going to try. Dumping RAM to look in it for cheats is a stupid idea, that's why I said what could be done for it.
Plus, as much as I'd love to actually do something on the 3DS homebrew wise, sadly I can't. 6.3.0-12.

and there was no code, just long series of bytes.

Also, technically, the code should be in RAM, since all processors fetch instructions to execute right from the RAM. The only exceptions from this rule are ROM + RAM architectures (like NES and SNES), which get the program code from the ROM memory. But still, it would be in assembly and finding anything in it would be quite the task.

 

[Huntereb]

and there was no code, just long series of bytes.

Gateway's code is compiled, they're not just going to sit there and release something that's 100% readable and editable by the public.

 

[Bond697]

still clueless.

also your now saying you looked at gateways code......so there you go you aren't as good at doing everything yourself as you would like everyone to believe
ps im not saying you aren't a good coder, but your attitude could do with a tweak or 2

a. i was talking to him^.
b. no, the rop chains are series of bytes. stack frames.

 

[gamesquest1]

still clueless.



a. i was talking to him.
b. no, the rop chains are series of bytes. stack frames.

ok i figure you looking for praise and adjuration....well done im so proud of you, well done for your amazing feats and accomplishments....wouldn't want someone getting praise when your better than them huh

 

[profi200]

ROP != code

The hardest part is the obfuscated ROP. Everything else is just disassemble it and understand what it do.

But the most don't understand, how much work this is. Everyone got that shit on a silver platter.

 

[PewnyPL]

Alright people, enough. At least one of you be a better person and stop replying, this leads nowhere and just spams the thread. Again.

 

[Huntereb]

I think he's trolling now guys, stop replying to him and let's get back to productive conversations.

 

[Bond697]

ok i figure you looking for praise and adjuration....well done im so proud of you, well done for your amazing feats and accomplishments....wouldn't want someone getting praise when your better than them huh

umm.. what?

he misquoted me(more like out of context, really) and started on some bullshit about "Gateway's code is compiled", which is obvious to literally everyone. i was pointing out that not everything gateway released is even code. what are you even talking about?

this is getting stupid.

ROP != code

The hardest part is the obfuscated ROP. Everything else is just disassemble it and understand what it do.

But the most don't understand, how much work this is. Everyone got that shit on a silver platter.

exactly.

 

[TheCruel]

the rop chains are series of bytes. stack frames.

Series of bytes... commonly referred to as code. The fact that they're ROP chains being pushed to the call stack doesn't change that.

 

[Bond697]

except they're NOT code. so there's that. causing code to be called in a certain way doesn't make something code itself.

 

[Habbert]

except they're NOT code. so there's that.

REDDIT!
"I've got that going for me, which is nice."

 

[Kane49]

this thread has taken a weird turn

 

[PewnyPL]

this thread has taken a weird turn

That's an understatement.