Handhelds Are Losing Ground.

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raulpica said:
SamAsh07 said:
raulpica said:
a tablet is portable and can also browse the web, take pictures and upload them to Facebook. ...Can your console do that?
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My DSi can browse the web, take pictures AND upload them to Facebook
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Even plays Songs.
Sure, but any tablet out there can browse the web a LOT better than the DSi (I've heard that the internal browser is abysmal), take pictures at a much HIGHER resolution (not VGA) and use all the Facebook's functions
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That's why smartphones/tablets are massively eating their way into the Handhelds market. Better value for money.
The largest thing about Smartphones/tablets is that they are NOT dedicated gaming devices but just casual gaming software..
 
chris888222 said:
raulpica said:
SamAsh07 said:
raulpica said:
a tablet is portable and can also browse the web, take pictures and upload them to Facebook. ...Can your console do that?
smileipb2.png
My DSi can browse the web, take pictures AND upload them to Facebook
tongue.gif


Even plays Songs.
Sure, but any tablet out there can browse the web a LOT better than the DSi (I've heard that the internal browser is abysmal), take pictures at a much HIGHER resolution (not VGA) and use all the Facebook's functions
tongue.gif


That's why smartphones/tablets are massively eating their way into the Handhelds market. Better value for money.
The largest thing about Smartphones/tablets is that they are NOT dedicated gaming devices but just casual gaming software..
People don't care about that. They want functionality.

The only ones who care about games are the hardcore gamers, which are a REAL minority, in terms of market shares.
 
raulpica said:
chris888222 said:
raulpica said:
SamAsh07 said:
raulpica said:
a tablet is portable and can also browse the web, take pictures and upload them to Facebook. ...Can your console do that?
smileipb2.png
My DSi can browse the web, take pictures AND upload them to Facebook
tongue.gif


Even plays Songs.
Sure, but any tablet out there can browse the web a LOT better than the DSi (I've heard that the internal browser is abysmal), take pictures at a much HIGHER resolution (not VGA) and use all the Facebook's functions
tongue.gif


That's why smartphones/tablets are massively eating their way into the Handhelds market. Better value for money.
The largest thing about Smartphones/tablets is that they are NOT dedicated gaming devices but just casual gaming software..
People don't care about that. They want functionality.

The only ones who care about games are the hardcore gamers, which are a REAL minority, in terms of market shares.
Hardcore gamers a minority?
No way!
 
tablets are getting more and more popular all the time and you can do pretty much anything on them (except the crappy ipad
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that's why Nintendo turned their controller into one
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Bladexdsl said:
tablets are getting more and more popular all the time and you can do pretty much anything on them (except the crappy ipad
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that's why Nintendo turned their controller into one
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But it isn't a tablet.
 
In some ways I will have to agree- what some people want (for better or worse those commenting here are far from a representative cross section of the consumer), what others will accept (for a kind of example consider all the tetris clones and then what "proper" tetris fans will accept) and what that does to the profits for various games, types/genres and their commercial viability- games in the regard that most are discussing here are still a commercial medium and there is no real incentive towards arty stuff like films where serious risk or even probable losses/expense will be endured and not all that much in the way of government funded stuff (thinking the likes of the BBC or even the various film/entertainment councils of various parts of the world).

Personally I am looking back in time to the 1980s as I see a lot of echoes of then in the present day.
 
Bladexdsl said:
prowler_ said:
Bladexdsl said:
tablets are getting more and more popular all the time and you can do pretty much anything on them (except the crappy ipad
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)

that's why Nintendo turned their controller into one
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But it isn't a tablet.
could have fooled me
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That's less than surprising.

Seriously though, it's not a tablet.
 
chartube12 said:
Now that android 4.0 (icecream sandwich) is going to natively support keyboards, xb360 and ps3 controllers, I fully expect there to be at least one tablet with graphics comparable to the 3ds.

Well, my sister's samsung galaxy's racing game has better gfx than ridgeracer 3ds.
 
Not entirely shocking. The Apple App store has really brought gaming to the true masses at this point on mobile devices. They've also created a huge price descreptancy between phone/tablet market and the handheld market that is going to be hard to overcome for Nintendo/Sony. Infintiy Blade by Epic has shown that visually and gameplay wise phone/tablets can create a compelling experience. Whether the decreased price point is going to enable a lot of game companies to do something as high quality as that within the $9.99 budget is one problem though.
 
doyama said:
Not entirely shocking. The Apple App store has really brought gaming to the true masses at this point on mobile devices. They've also created a huge price descreptancy between phone/tablet market and the handheld market that is going to be hard to overcome for Nintendo/Sony. Infintiy Blade by Epic has shown that visually and gameplay wise phone/tablets can create a compelling experience. Whether the decreased price point is going to enable a lot of game companies to do something as high quality as that within the $9.99 budget is one problem though.
I look on you tube on that and to me if the game was made for a game dedicated
handheld,the game would have been much better.

Some (if not most)phone games are just clones,focus parts from real games with some bad controls, lacking contents and with bad animation.


Not saying there aren't good games,but it doesn't nowhere near beat most of handheld games.

I whether play a good psp game (like GOW or Tale games) or ds game (like Kingdom Hearts or Zelda) than Infintiy Blade.

Look at this.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BjiiSwR5Lc[/youtube]
 
actually a pretty good video, thanks kingvamp

i definitely agree that the DS will remain the best selling handheld because the whole casual market they focused on are now going towards iOS devices
 
I have my PSP (and eventually a Vita) and DS/3DS for my handheld games. I have a HTC Phone, and while it's nice that I can play a few emulated games on it, there's no buttons, and there's no dedicated titles that really draw me. For the current market, for me personally, there's still a need to carry both a phone and a handheld gaming device. Angry Birds and Nova just don't cut it for me - the lack of buttons really hurt, and even with a controller or those nub buttons, it's not the same.
 
Nathan Drake said:
Oh boy, another "smart phones are gonna kill your handhelds," idiot. They're two separate markets, no matter how hard Apple tries to push their way in. Same goes for that Android stuff from Google. I will never consider them handhelds in the sense that handhelds have come to be known.

When Nvidia has pushed more advanced Tegra chips out the door in the next few years, the PS Vita and 3DS will be eating the dust unfortunately.
 
DSGamer64 said:
Nathan Drake said:
Oh boy, another "smart phones are gonna kill your handhelds," idiot. They're two separate markets, no matter how hard Apple tries to push their way in. Same goes for that Android stuff from Google. I will never consider them handhelds in the sense that handhelds have come to be known.

When Nvidia has pushed more advanced Tegra chips out the door in the next few years, the PS Vita and 3DS will be eating the dust unfortunately.

A cellphone will never be a handheld. They will never have the third party support they need in the right places. As has been mentioned multiple times, $.99 games are nowhere near the same as what you get on a handheld.
 
Nathan Drake said:
DSGamer64 said:
Nathan Drake said:
Oh boy, another "smart phones are gonna kill your handhelds," idiot. They're two separate markets, no matter how hard Apple tries to push their way in. Same goes for that Android stuff from Google. I will never consider them handhelds in the sense that handhelds have come to be known.

When Nvidia has pushed more advanced Tegra chips out the door in the next few years, the PS Vita and 3DS will be eating the dust unfortunately.

A cellphone will never be a handheld. They will never have the third party support they need in the right places. As has been mentioned multiple times, $.99 games are nowhere near the same as what you get on a handheld.
Why can't Tegra or equivalent chips be in handhelds anyway?

You (DSGamer64) at like handhelds can't or not allow to get these chips.

I did not see how phone games can fill you gaming needs over the handhelds...

@Terminator02 np
 

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