Epstein had no client list!

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Don't worry. We are all very familiar with the Republican Party.
Dems aren't free of sin
https://nypost.com/2021/12/02/jeffrey-epstein-visited-clinton-white-house-at-least-17-times-report/
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Honestly, I am shocked people still support either party. They've been proven to not give a shit about anyone not paying them.
 
So, Trumpet's "clemency" should also be glorified?

He's trying to save his own ass on this.

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Dems aren't free of sin
https://nypost.com/2021/12/02/jeffrey-epstein-visited-clinton-white-house-at-least-17-times-report/
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Honestly, I am shocked people still support either party. They've been proven to not give a shit about anyone not paying them.
There are definitely terrible people on either side. It's bound to happen with that many powerful positions to fill. That being said, the sheer number of horrible people on the right absolutely eclipses the number on the left.

If we're looking at people I can point at and say "They're horrible", for the left, I'd say Schumer and Pelosi are the standouts. They definitely do insider trading, and overall don't do enough to do what the majority want. They're bad through complacency. Bill Clinton definitely has some skeletons in his closet (Not that he's in politics anymore). John Fetterman's brain has completely broken, so he can just screw off. People on the right LOVE to hate on AOC and Bernie, but they're honest and walk the walk. They 100% give a shit about the regular people. The right is absolutely terrified of them being more popular because they embody the change people want. NY voting for Zohran Mamdani may be a sign of the people being done with the rich elite controlling things.

On the right, I'm hard-pressed to find ANYONE I'd bother to save from a fire. I used to hate Rand Paul, but he may be one of the few who actually has some semblance of conservativeness left in him. Mind you, there are a LOT of Republicans that don't make waves like the main ones in the spotlight (Cruz, Graham, MTG, Boebert, etc.). There could be some in there that could be good for the people, but they sure as heck are powerless now.
 
There are definitely terrible people on either side. It's bound to happen with that many powerful positions to fill. That being said, the sheer number of horrible people on the right absolutely eclipses the number on the left.

If we're looking at people I can point at and say "They're horrible", for the left, I'd say Schumer and Pelosi are the standouts. They definitely do insider trading, and overall don't do enough to do what the majority want. They're bad through complacency. Bill Clinton definitely has some skeletons in his closet (Not that he's in politics anymore). John Fetterman's brain has completely broken, so he can just screw off. People on the right LOVE to hate on AOC and Bernie, but they're honest and walk the walk. They 100% give a shit about the regular people. The right is absolutely terrified of them being more popular because they embody the change people want. NY voting for Zohran Mamdani may be a sign of the people being done with the rich elite controlling things.

On the right, I'm hard-pressed to find ANYONE I'd bother to save from a fire. I used to hate Rand Paul, but he may be one of the few who actually has some semblance of conservativeness left in him. Mind you, there are a LOT of Republicans that don't make waves like the main ones in the spotlight (Cruz, Graham, MTG, Boebert, etc.). There could be some in there that could be good for the people, but they sure as heck are powerless now.
Here's the thing, Dems are still on the right. Yeah, there are less terrible Dems than Republicans but I still view both parties as nothing more than puppets of the rich
 
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WOW!
What a leftist cesspool here.
I remember Epstein being an issue with all politicians for years if I am not mistaking.
But I digress, you all are only out for Trumps head!
The Trump administration was all about releasing the files up until now, continually saying that they will release in time and time again, only to now say they never existed. This is all their doing.

But, if the files never existed and the things with Epstein never happened, then why is Ghislaine Maxwell in prison?
 
WOW!
What a leftist cesspool here.
Who would have thought! There seems to be a direct correlation between being more left leaning and wanting justice done! Whereas the MAGA crowd are lurking in dark corners, willfully ignoring what they originally wanted.
I remember Epstein being an issue with all politicians for years if I am not mistaking.
I loved Obama as a president, but if the list came out and had Obama's name on it, I'd say lock him up for life as well. I'm not a blatant hypocrite. Are you?
 
Who would have thought! There seems to be a direct correlation between being more left leaning and wanting justice done! Whereas the MAGA crowd are lurking in dark corners, willfully ignoring what they originally wanted.

Actually it's because this is a piracy website and literally any website that has a shaky moral compass will be more left leaning than right leaning (also includes literally any type of porn website).

Lmfao at trying to imply people on this cesspool site care about "justice" or something come on
 
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Yes because as a right-leaning Christian, I obviously do not want justice done.
Well, if you're bringing religion into it (specifically Christianity), then you don't care about justice in the afterlife. That's more substitutionary atonement, which is immoral in itself.

For example, if someone killed your family member in cold blood. Would you think that justice was served if the murderer went free (Because they're really sorry!), but their parent went to jail in their stead? I hope you wouldn't.

On the other hand, if someone steals a loaf of bread to feed their starving family and they don't atone for it, it's infinite punishment for a finite crime. Also very immoral.

That's not focusing on earthly justice though. But there is quite a stark difference to people who are left leaning here being angry that justice isn't served whereas the regular right-wing commenters on this board are expectedly absent. Unfortunately, MAGA has turned into a identity for many of these people. If anything wrong is pointed out about someone of power within that group, they take it as an attack on themselves instead of actually doing any introspection on if they're supporting someone who's a self admitted molester.
 
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Well, if you're bringing religion into it (specifically Christianity), then you don't care about justice in the afterlife. That's more substitutionary atonement, which is immoral in itself.

For example, if someone killed your family member in cold blood. Would you think that justice was served if the murderer went free (Because they're really sorry!), but their parent went to jail in their stead? I hope you wouldn't.

On the other hand, if someone steals a loaf of bread to feed their starving family and they don't atone for it, it's infinite punishment for a finite crime. Also very immoral.

That's not focusing on earthly justice though. But there is quite a stark difference to people who are left leaning here being angry that justice isn't served whereas the regular right-wing commenters on this board are expectedly absent. Unfortunately, MAGA has turned into a identity for many of these people. If anything wrong is pointed out about someone of power within that group, they take it as an attack on themselves instead of actually doing any introspection on if they're supporting someone who's a self admitted molester.

I'm Orthodox Christian, I don't subscribe to the penal substiturionary atonement theory.

I hope for temporal justice of course, that criminals get their deserved punishment, but often in this world we will not get that temporal justice and all we can hope fore is that justice will somehow prevail in the end. This is our hope as Christians. I'd go mad (and I used to go mad when I was an atheist) seeing the injustice and horrors happening in this world if I didn't know that no matter what happens (see the subject of this thread), God will have the last word.

If someone steals a loaf of bread to feed their starving family, it is not a sin. That is even covered in the Old Testament in which people see God as "mean". This is why the Bible is primarily a set of stories and not book with rules that always apply without context.

I'm not such a MAGA fanboy though I'm relieved to see Trump in the White House, if only to put the breaks on or slightly reverse the woke madness. I don't understand what you're referring to exactly, since I'm seeing a lot of right-wingers decrying we won't get (temporal) justice when it comes to the Epstein case.
 
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I'm Orthodox Christian, I don't subscribe to the penal substitutionary atonement theory.

I hope for temporal justice of course, that criminals get their deserved punishment, but often in this world we will not get that temporal justice and all we can hope fore is that justice will somehow prevail in the end. This is our hope as Christians. I'd go mad (and I used to go mad when I was atheist) seeing the injustice and horrors happening in this world if I didn't know that no matter what happens (see the subject of this thread), God will have the last word.
How interesting! I honestly have never heard that Orthodox Christians don't believe in that version of atonement. Looking at the percentage of US Christians being of the Orthodox sect is only 0.5-0.8%, I can see why it flew under my radar. But good on ya! That's one less moral issue you need to worry yourself about. I won't bother getting into the others, since that isn't what this thread is about.
I'm not such a MAGA fanboy though I'm relieved to see Trump in the White House, if only to put the breaks or slightly reverse the woke madness.
I'm with you most of the way with the woke stuff, honestly. There are a LOT of examples of overreach and insanity trying to pass as normalcy. I'm from Canada, and there was news that went worldwide with this trans teacher that had obscenely giant fake boobs. The school board tried to tippy-toe around it, but in the end, they got rid of them. But thinking that Trump is the guy to fix it is trying to fix a phone with a hammer. The issues will persist, and only become worse. Extremes beget more extremes.
I don't understand what you're referring to exactly, since I'm seeing a lot of right-wingers decrying we won't get (temporal) justice when it comes to the Epstein case.
I haven't seen them. Either here on this board, or out there in the social media space. I was honestly hoping to see some of the usual suspects come here and show their displeasure. The Cranesbill guy came in a second and put up a picture which showed his displeasure, then removed it.

I've seen a LOT of right winger podcasters try to shift blame. Saying that there are higher powers than Trump who are covering this up. Those are the ones who actually still want SOME form of justice, but can't seem to connect the dots on what's in front of them. Others are basically throwing up their hands saying 'Well, if Trump's DOJ says there's no list, then I believe them'.
 
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This feels like mutually assured destruction, because I am willing to bet Musky boi is on that list too.
I'm going to go on 100% feelings here, but I doubt he's on it. He wouldn't be so cavalier about that topic if he was on it too. He's more the type to offer horses to 20-30 year old's.
 
FWIW, despite what may be happening or being said in this thread, not all conservatives are simply swallowing this claim and forgetting about it. Here's a page, on a major conservative blog/conglomerator, full of tweets from prominent conservatives who are also skeptical or saying wtf.

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/07/08/nobody-is-buying-the-epstein-memo-n3804580

The machine's gonna protect itself, always. It's taken over 60 years to find out the CIA was in contact with Oswald before the Kennedy assassination. Maybe the few of you who are still alive in 2085 will finally get a whiff of actual fact about Epstein.
 

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