Hacking Emcc or nand

[pwghost]

Hi, just got a unpatched switch, never hacked. Is it possible to install atmophere en still go online to play games? Can I make a complete backup like it is now (ofw 12.1.0) and resore this later on?
I read about nand and emcc but how to do that? Sorry don't have much experiense in doing this. TIA.

 

[RednaxelaNnamtra]

Hi, just got a unpatched switch, never hacked. Is it possible to install atmophere en still go online to play games? Can I make a complete backup like it is now (ofw 12.1.0) and resore this later on?
I read about nand and emcc but how to do that? Sorry don't have much experiense in doing this. TIA.

The emmc is just the internal storage, sometimes also called sysnand. Emunand is a copy of the internal storage you can run from the SD-card. Its used either to be able to go online while staying on a lower firmware version on the internal store (for example for exploits), or as a playground thats keept offline for not that safe things.

If you don't plan to install any switch roms(XCI or NSP, even homebrew), you can just start atmosphere on the sysnand without any need for an emunand, and go online with cfw on sysnand.
In this situation you can use all homebrew like emulators (retro arch, melonds and more), homewbrew games and ports (like GTA3, OpenRTC2, and more), and system modules(sysdvr for streaming to a pc, sysclk to improve the framerates a bit and more).
Just never install any nsps or xcis (even if its a homewbrew rom in this format) and don't cheat or romhack online, then you will be relatively safe.
If you plan to use switch roms, you need to create an emunand, and use the roms only there while staying offline in the emunand, and go online with only the Sysnand.

 

[LeyendaV]

Hi, just got a unpatched switch, never hacked. Is it possible to install atmophere en still go online to play games? Can I make a complete backup like it is now (ofw 12.1.0) and resore this later on?
I read about nand and emcc but how to do that? Sorry don't have much experiense in doing this. TIA.

The best thing to do is create an emunand and keep it offline to do, literally, what you want there. That way, the sysnand will remain 100% clean and you will be able to keep playing online and doing eveything normally as if the console were untouched.

 

[RednaxelaNnamtra]

The best thing to do is create an emunand and keep it offline to do, literally, what you want there. That way, the sysnand will remain 100% clean and you will be able to keep playing online and doing eveything normally as if the console were untouched.

Like I said, it depends on his plans, going online with cfw on the switch is just a problem when you do specific things(roms, romhacks online and cheating), since atmosphere is designed to allow you to go online with it.

 

[LeyendaV]

Like I said, it depends on his plans, going online with cfw on the switch is just a problem when you do specific things(roms, romhacks online and cheating), since atmosphere is designed to allow you to go online with it.

That's why we apply Incognito and use the 90DNS. It allows you to use internet on the emunand in a completely safe way.
The only thing you need to remember is to never trying to access any official Nintendo online service. Respect that rule and you will encounter absolutely zero issue.

 

[pwghost]

Thanks for the info, plan is to use it offical to play and go online and atmosphere to do the other stuff but not online , so emunand is the way to go then

 

[RednaxelaNnamtra]

That's why we apply Incognito and use the 90DNS. It allows you to use internet on the emunand in a completely safe way.
The only thing you need to remember is to never trying to access any official Nintendo online service. Respect that rule and you will encounter absolutely zero issue.

I know that, but thats only needed when you install switch roms to the system, I mean I'm online with my switches in cfw since about a month after cfw got originally released, and many of my friends too, nobody got banned yet. Atmosphere started very early on to remove all telemetry exactly to allow this, going online while in atmosphere. The atmophere devs do this even themself, since its mostly safe.

And using things like 90DNS or atmospheres build in version of it, mostly hides your switch from nintendo, but it also greatly limits what you are able to do with your switch, since it effectivelly bans the emunand from going online.
So no streaming while playing online with friends in discord, or things like raid analysis in sword and shield, and the need to always switch between both systems, even if its not that hard to do with tools like my fastCFWswitch.

So just give people the full picture, not just the rom using bubble ^^

 

[LeyendaV]

Thanks for the info, plan is to use it offical to play and go online and atmosphere to do the other stuff but not online , so emunand is the way to go then

Sure thing, bud. Don't hesitate on asking if you have further questions!

 

[XDM]

Back in the early days of switch hacking it was MUCH harder to stay unbanned, so I just gave up and played online with my dumps (Nintendo don't care if you own the cart or not) got tired of worrying about the hammer and just said fuck it, played with my friend for 1 day and woke up bannedI just brought another used switch and used that for clean non hacked online.
Morel of the story: it's not a matter of IF the hammer will come, it's WHEN.

 

[RednaxelaNnamtra]

Back in the early days of switch hacking it was MUCH harder to stay unbanned, so I just gave up and played online with my dumps (Nintendo don't care if you own the cart or not) got tired of worrying about the hammer and just said fuck it, played with my friend for 1 day and woke up bannedI just brought another used switch and used that for clean non hacked online.
Morel of the story: it's not a matter of IF the hammer will come, it's WHEN.

I mean if you use an offline emunand for unsafe stuff your sysnand will not be banned unless you make a mistake (like disabling prodinfo blanking and going online), and if you go online with just cfw and homebrew (no xci or nsp) you will also not be banned, unless you hack or cheat online. ^^

Also even in the early days it was not that hard not to get banned, but yeah, you needed to be a bit more carefull than now. It was even possible to go online in SXOS with XCI mounting and self dumped backups until 9.x and not get banned (did that myself for over a year).

 

[XDM]

I mean if you use an offline emunand for unsafe stuff your sysnand will not be banned unless you make a mistake (like disabling prodinfo blanking and going online), and if you go online with just cfw and homebrew (no xci or nsp) you will also not be banned, unless you hack or cheat online. ^^

Also even in the early days it was not that hard not to get banned, but yeah, you needed to be a bit more carefull than now. It was even possible to go online in SXOS with XCI mounting and self dumped backups until 9.x and not get banned (did that myself for over a year).

well like i said i just gave up, it was soooo much work in the beginning that i got tired of doing all that just to use the switch and i didnt buy sxos. now i just use yuzu for 99% of all my backups.Now my hacked switch is just for running android and steam link remote play for my pc games