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Natehaxx said:
Checked my Switch with Dolphin Running and thats the CPU Clock Results

CPU~Quad core (-MCP-) speed~1734 MHz Kernel~4.16.0-rc1-g0213fa0fb-dirty aarch64 Up~34 min Mem~1679.2/3431.0MB HDD~NA(-) Procs~200 Client~Shell inxi~2.3.56

So the switch clocks almost like the Nvidia Shield , so it must be another reason why things wont go good atm
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Well as shown the tx1 on the switch isnt just a slighty modified one, they downcloked even the max mhz it could reach. Still, if they could clock it to that on docked mode it would be a big perfomance boost.
 
Natehaxx said:
Checked my Switch with Dolphin Running and thats the CPU Clock Results

CPU~Quad core (-MCP-) speed~1734 MHz Kernel~4.16.0-rc1-g0213fa0fb-dirty aarch64 Up~34 min Mem~1679.2/3431.0MB HDD~NA(-) Procs~200 Client~Shell inxi~2.3.56

So the switch clocks almost like the Nvidia Shield , so it must be another reason why things wont go good atm
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Hmmm... does the switch even have enough thermal dissipation support to handle that frequency without starting to deteriorate.
I mean, sure the chip itself can handle it, and Linux as it seems couldn't care less it is a Tegra X1 inside a Switch. It just think "Tegra X1" and goes with stock Tegra X1 frequency limits... but is that a good idea?

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DeslotlCL said:
Well as shown the tx1 on the switch isnt just a slighty modified one, they downcloked even the max mhz it could reach. Still, if they could clock it to that on docked mode it would be a big perfomance boost.
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The Tegra X1 in the Shield downthrottles as a mean to protect itself from high temperatures. I think the one on the Switch is exactly the same.
The only reason it is not reaching the max MHz is because it doesn't have good enough thermal dissipation. It is running too hot.

PS: And I trust the SoC will be able to protect itself via hardware downthrottling, but if the dissipation is not good enough... what about the solder or the surrounding plastic and components?
 
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I just remembered that Nintendo released last year some Wii Games official for the Nvidia Shield Tablet (China only) wich run very well in 720p. Search for Super Mario Galaxy or Twilight Princess Shield Trailer. I dont kow if these games are portet or emulated.
 
sarkwalvein said:
Hmmm... does the switch even have enough thermal dissipation support to handle that frequency without starting to deteriorate.
I mean, sure the chip itself can handle it, and Linux as it seems couldn't care less it is a Tegra X1 inside a Switch. It just think "Tegra X1" and goes with stock Tegra X1 frequency limits... but is that a good idea?

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The Tegra X1 in the Shield downthrottles as a mean to protect itself from high temperatures. I think the one on the Switch is exactly the same.
The only reason it is not reaching the max MHz is because it doesn't have good enough thermal dissipation. It is running too hot.

PS: And I trust the SoC will be able to protect itself via hardware downthrottling, but if the dissipation is not good enough... what about the solder or the surrounding plastic and components?
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Pretty sure i have read that the gpu is the one that downthrottles and not the cpu, at least on the shield tv.
 
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sarkwalvein said:
Hmmm... does the switch even have enough thermal dissipation support to handle that frequency without starting to deteriorate.
I mean, sure the chip itself can handle it, and Linux as it seems couldn't care less it is a Tegra X1 inside a Switch. It just think "Tegra X1" and goes with stock Tegra X1 frequency limits... but is that a good idea?

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The Tegra X1 in the Shield downthrottles as a mean to protect itself from high temperatures. I think the one on the Switch is exactly the same.
The only reason it is not reaching the max MHz is because it doesn't have good enough thermal dissipation. It is running too hot.

PS: And I trust the SoC will be able to protect itself via hardware downthrottling, but if the dissipation is not good enough... what about the solder or the surrounding plastic and components?
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The physical size of the Nvidia Shield TV isn't that different from the Switch.

(a couple of comparison pics I just took)
https://imgur.com/a/Hqw5ls5

The outlet vent in the second picture shows they're almost the same size, and the thickness of the devices arent too far apart either. So I'd assume the internal heatsinks and fans must be of similar size as well.
The key difference between the two devices is that the Switch is a handheld console. People forget (or don't even know) that the Switch in its dock is the TX1 running at normal clock speeds (not overclocked), while the handheld mode uses a underclock (and not a stock speed). This in all likelihood was done purely for the sake of battery life and not thermals.
An overclock to near Shield TV speeds might be reasonable as long as its plugged into a power supply.

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xy-maps said:
I just remembered that Nintendo released last year some Wii Games official for the Nvidia Shield Tablet (China only) wich run very well in 720p. Search for Super Mario Galaxy or Twilight Princess Shield Trailer. I dont kow if these games are portet or emulated.
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Those were confirmed as being emulated.
 
Rune said:
The physical size of the Nvidia Shield TV isn't that different from the Switch.

(a couple of comparison pics I just took)
https://imgur.com/a/Hqw5ls5

The outlet vent in the second picture shows they're almost the same size, and the thickness of the devices arent too far apart either. So I'd assume the internal heatsinks and fans must be of similar size as well.
The key difference between the two devices is that the Switch is a handheld console. People forget (or don't even know) that the Switch in its dock is the TX1 running at normal clock speeds (not overclocked), while the handheld mode uses a underclock (and not a stock speed). This in all likelihood was done purely for the sake of battery life and not thermals.
An overclock to near Shield TV speeds might be reasonable as long as its plugged into a power supply.

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Those were confirmed as being emulated.
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I don't own a Shield, so I can't talk regarding the materials that build it up.
But I would be really wary of how well the plastics, display and other components on the Switch can deal with the heat.
The SoC, I wouldn't be concerned about.
 
sarkwalvein said:
Hmmm... does the switch even have enough thermal dissipation support to handle that frequency without starting to deteriorate.
I mean, sure the chip itself can handle it, and Linux as it seems couldn't care less it is a Tegra X1 inside a Switch. It just think "Tegra X1" and goes with stock Tegra X1 frequency limits... but is that a good idea?

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------


The Tegra X1 in the Shield downthrottles as a mean to protect itself from high temperatures. I think the one on the Switch is exactly the same.
The only reason it is not reaching the max MHz is because it doesn't have good enough thermal dissipation. It is running too hot.

PS: And I trust the SoC will be able to protect itself via hardware downthrottling, but if the dissipation is not good enough... what about the solder or the surrounding plastic and components?
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it seems to run fine , atleast i can say that PSX Games runs Full Speed without any issues
 
Natehaxx said:
it seems to run fine , atleast i can say that PSX Games runs Full Speed without any issues
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That's good to know, if you can please keep testing it in challenging conditions and report back if you have any kind of problem (e.g. spot/patches building up in the display, plastics deforming, etc.). If this problem happens, it may be so after using it for several hours. It would be great to confirm this is not an issue.
 
sarkwalvein said:
That's good to know, if you can please keep testing it in challenging conditions and report back if you have any kind of problem (e.g. spot/patches building up in the display, plastics deforming, etc.). If this problem happens, it may be so after using it for several hours. It would be great to confirm this is not an issue.
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The CPU is running at 47°c atm , Background with Crash Bandicoot running on PCSXR ..console it self seems not to be warm at all just very less
 
I think that a native Dolphin port for Switch would run a lot better. Though that would probably take a shit ton of effort to do right now.
 
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Natehaxx said:
The Left Joycon is working just fine , i am waiting for them to fix the right joycon , also Sega Saturn Runs Full Speed

Just tried Sega Rally
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do you test uoYabuse? Great!
could you test Shining Force 3 and Panzer Dragon Saga? They are the games i would love replay .
 

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