DIOS MIOS Lite

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Feb 6, 2012

DIOS MIOS Lite by sk0ld at 3:28 AM (8,206 Views / 2 Likes) 64 replies

  1. sk0ld
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    Well, nice job guys. I'm not going to lie and say I wasn't surprised at how quickly g0dlike has recouped what he had spent on saving DML.. I can say with certainty that you have surprised crediar.

    Now for a little back-story. I've gotten to know crediar fairly well, since even before the SNEEK beta, and we've spoken a number of times on this particular topic. It's fair to say that he had become disillusioned with the fact that all the time and hard work he was putting into these projects was for absolutely nothing. I certainly can't blame him for feeling this way, and neither should any of you.

    So, a few months ago when crediar had decided to sell his work on DML, I could tell instantly that he at least somewhat regretted having had to make that decision. This became more and more evident with all of the guidance he had given to WiiPower in these recent months.
    Now, let this in no way impugn the work WiiPower has done on the open source, however the fact remains, (and WiiPower has stated himself) that it was in fact crediar who has been the one providing the real meat to any of these advancements, and wants to continue his work on what should still be considered to be his project.

    This leads us to the YouTube video. It's purpose should have been clear, and the resulting donations seem to have served that purpose much more efficiently than we had anticipated. The intent was to wipe the slate clean with g0dlike in order to get back on track.

    No doubt the slower among you are asking yourselves what track that might be. Well simply stated, as long as there's a little donation money coming in, DML will continue to improve. If it were to stop, then so goes crediar's will to work on it. This way, everyone is happy. That seems fair, doesn't it? You really can't fault a person for striving for the ideal of getting a little bit of cash for doing work they enjoy.
    Since crediar's usual paypal address is no longer useable, we asked g0dlike's friend who then agreed to forward any funds donated to crediar.

    Donate

    Now for the fun stuff.

    First of all, the current Temp compatibility list needs to be knocked down, and again started from scratch. This is a new beast. The new DML version features new patch code that now allows reads to be done async instead of sync. Simply said, DML no longer pauses the game to make a read but let's the game continue. Once the read is complete it sends an IRQ, just like it would work when playing from a real disc.

    This alone gets rid of most if not all lags in any game and also fixes many games that just crashed, like Luigi's Mansion or Kirby Air Ride. It's true that we still have to abide the SD code's bottleneck of 2077KB/s, however in all but rare cases, load times are actually faster than disc due to the quicker access times. You still want to be using a card formatted as 64K clusters.

    There are still some things that are planned to be improved upon:
    -No-Disc
    -NMM support
    -Two disc support
    -Fix non-working games
    If you would like to see a bug fixed, it'd be a great idea to append a note of said bug to any donations made, as this is more likely to be prioritized.

    The new official IRC channel is #DML on EFNet.

    In regards to the triforce part of the video, that was just a small teaser and in no way related to DML at all. So far no game is playable and everything works with hardcoded patches. F-ZeroAX does some weird stuff and will probably never work like this. This is highly experimental and may never completely work, but who knows. There are absolutely no guarantees that this will ever be released.

    Well, that's it. The new revision has been committed to the SVN. If you use it, give what you can. Have fun!
     
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    Nice info, but I still think that crediar should give at least some of the money back to G0dlike. Crediar sold the project, then took it back, but kept the money.
     
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    I don't understand what happened. can someone help me understand the history with all of this?
     
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    At the moment g0dlike released it as opensource nobody "owns" it anymore, anyone can take and modify it. Just because crediar sold the code doesn't mean he can never edit/update the source again.
    And now that crediar went and got g0dlike most of the money back he spent, you still put him in a bad light?
     
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    Me neither;S

    I thought the donation went to godlike as he owned the project?
    i don´t get, how does Crediar get the money, and the project back??;S

    EDIT

    Wait what;O?
    So crediar helped godlike to get back the money?
    and now whaT;O?
     
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    nice work JoostinOnline you totally killed the thread!
     
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    what;O?
    did he lie or what;S?
     
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    But none of that money came from crediar AFAIK. He's taking control of the project again. Essentially people donated money to crediar so that people would help him work on it.

    If crediar had given back half the money for example, then I would have no problem.
     
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    so Godlike payed crediar, ppl then donated to crediar so he would work again, and now owns the project once more?
     
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    If Crediar does make changes or updates, he is still required to release the source right? If that's the case, I don't see the problem since anyone can still make changes.
     
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    1.G0dlike bought DML from crediar
    2.G0dlike release codes as opensource
    3.Wiipower and others make changes to the code
    4.crediar promises to update the code with a better version once people donated as much as g0dlike paid for DML
    5.people donate the amount to G0dlike
    6.crediar updates code
    7.Everyone lived happily ever after except the evil witch Joostin
     
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    Lol, it's not like I'm trying to take the project down. I'm just saying that I believe some of the donations should have come from crediar. It's simply my opinion on the matter.
     
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    But did Godlike get any money?
    I thought he was going to get some money back as he paid 400 euros for the project;S
     
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    Yeah, he got paid back, but not from crediar. All the money was from donations by other people.
     
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    Crediar got a 400€ "donation" from godlike. That's quite a lot for a hobby. Most people lose a lot of money on theirs. ;)

    Ofcourse if people would like to donate more, that would be nice and the option should be there. But how you phrase it, sk0ld, it sounds more like a demand and that's pretty shitty, imo.
     
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    *sigh* JoostinOnline, stop. Just stop.
    I'll say it again. Any and all advancements to DML to this point have been because of crediar, and you believe he should have done all of it pro bono? You're just wrong. What's worse is that you're not even a part of any of this. Everyone ends up happy in this scenario, (ESPECIALLY g0dlike, who as far as I know wasn't getting any reimbursement at all) except for some reason, you, who feels the need to throw a monkey wrench into the works.. Just stop. zerowalker, you're just plain pissing me off too. =P
     
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    Ah well then i am happy:)
    But yeah i do agree with it being a bit rude, that he sits at the back, and then comes back and make "demands" for donations for changes( depending on how people see it).

    But i am happy that Godlike got the money atleast, as he paid so much for it:)
     
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    I am not trying to make anyone pissed of, sorry if it appears so. just wanted to understand the story:)
    The only thing i care about is that all went well with the money, i thought someone just took them, but if that´s not the case then all is well.
    And if crediar wants money for changes, well give him if you want him to make changes, if not, others may be able to do it for fun and free, time will tell:)
     
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    I don't care much about morality arguments in this case, Crediar's contributed so much to the Wii scene I think it's fair for the guy to be frustrated over the fact that he really gets nothing out of his work, same goes out there for a lot of deserving devs.
     
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    Calm down man. I was just stating my thoughts (as I mentioned here), nobody has to agree with me. I don't see why I have to be one of the DML developers for me to have an opinion.
     
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