Hacking cIOSX rev21d2x: Yet Another Hot Fix!!!!

[Lacius]

Does 38 do most backups?No, you want to install 249d2x56 v6. It does 99% of backups. Anything that does not work with 249d2x56 v6 probably requires base 57, which is what 250d2x57 v6 is for. Here is the full recommended setup for backup loading:

IOS222: Hermes cIOS Installer v5.1 MOD by Rodries (base 38) - I never use this, but I suppose it's nice to have. Actually, I think I used it recently to get my USB keyboard working with Animal Crossing: City Folk.
IOS223: Hermes cIOS Installer v4 (base 37+38) - I never use this. It's for band games that use USB instruments, but I've read that they work with 249d2x56. I cannot confirm this.
IOS224: Hermes cIOS Installer v5.1 MOD by Rodries (base 57) - Again, I never use this. Someone else can probably better explain why it is still useful (if it is).
IOS249: 249d2x56 v6 (base 56, obviously) - This works with 99% of games. I highly recommend it.
IOS250: 250d2x57 v6 (base 57, obviously) - This works with games like Black Ops that do not work with 249d2x56 (because some games require IOS57). I suppose you could also use IOS224 instead.

QUOTE(King of Games @ Jul 22 2011, 09:21 PM) And one final question, is running a channel from the wii menu better than running one from the homebrew channel, or is there no real difference?

I am not entirely sure what you are asking. If you are using a forwarder channel on your Wii Menu to launch, say, Configurable USB Loader, then it is just forwarding you to the application on your SD card. It doesn't really matter which one you use. Whichever is most convenient for you, I suppose.

 

[King of Games]

All right, thanks a lot for the help. I'll use 56, and I'll also stick to launching apps from the homebrew channel then, since I have bootmii automatically send me to it on start up. Screw installing channels.

 

[JoostinOnline]

Does 38 do most backups?No, you want to install 249d2x56 v6. It does 99% of backups. Anything that does not work with 249d2x56 v6 probably requires base 57, which is what 250d2x57 v6 is for. Here is the full recommended setup for backup loading:

IOS222: Hermes cIOS Installer v5.1 MOD by Rodries (base 38) - I never use this, but I suppose it's nice to have. Actually, I think I used it recently to get my USB keyboard working with Animal Crossing: City Folk.
IOS223: Hermes cIOS Installer v4 (base 37+38) - I never use this. It's for band games that use USB instruments, but I've read that they work with 249d2x56. I cannot confirm this.
IOS224: Hermes cIOS Installer v5.1 MOD by Rodries (base 57) - Again, I never use this. Someone else can probably better explain why it is still useful (if it is).
IOS249: 249d2x56 v6 (base 56, obviously) - This works with 99% of games. I highly recommend it.
IOS250: 250d2x57 v6 (base 57, obviously) - This works with games like Black Ops that do not work with 249d2x56 (because some games require IOS57). I suppose you could also use IOS224 instead.

QUOTE(King of Games @ Jul 22 2011, 09:21 PM) And one final question, is running a channel from the wii menu better than running one from the homebrew channel, or is there no real difference?

I am not entirely sure what you are asking. If you are using a forwarder channel on your Wii Menu to launch, say, Configurable USB Loader, then it is just forwarding you to the application on your SD card. It doesn't really matter which one you use. Whichever is most convenient for you, I suppose.

Where did you get the 222 v5.1 from? 222 is supposed is recommended as v4.

@KoG: Forwarder ISO's are fake games that just load channels (both on the Wii and emulated NAND) and homebrew. They require base 38. Just about any homebrew that uses 249 requires base 38.

If you only plan on playing discs, go ahead and use base 56 for 249. If you want to expand past that to more complicated things, install base 56 to 248 and make that your default for USB loading, and put base 38 in 249.

You can always change it later, so for now you should probably stick with base 56.

 

[Lacius]

Where did you get the 222 v5.1 from? 222 is supposed is recommended as v4.

Why should it be v4?

 

[JoostinOnline]

Where did you get the 222 v5.1 from? 222 is supposed is recommended as v4.

Why should it be v4?

Compatibility. New =/= Best. It's always been recommended that you stick with v4 for 222 and 223. 202 and 224 should be the latest versions.

 

[Lacius]

Compatibility. New =/= Best. It's always been recommended that you stick with v4 for 222 and 223. 202 and 224 should be the latest versions.

I know that new does not always equal better. However, why is it recommended that IOS222 not be v5/5.1?

 

[JoostinOnline]

Compatibility. New =/= Best. It's always been recommended that you stick with v4 for 222 and 223. 202 and 224 should be the latest versions.

I know that new does not always equal better. However, why is it recommended that IOS222 not be v5/5.1?

v4 has better compatibility than v5/5.1, although slightly slower. The use of hermes cIOS has lessened a lot with d2x, but 224 was for a slight speed boost, and you could try 222 or 223 if that didn't work.

 

[Lacius]

v4 has better compatibility than v5/5.1, although slightly slower.

Then why does ModMii use v5 instead of v4? What isn't compatible with v5 but is with v4? This is just the first time that I've heard that v4 is recommended over v5 for IOS222. My whole belief system has been thrown into chaos.

 

[JoostinOnline]

v4 has better compatibility than v5/5.1, although slightly slower.

Then why does ModMii use v5 instead of v4? What isn't compatible with v5 but is with v4? This is just the first time that I've heard that v4 is recommended over v5 for IOS222. My whole belief system has been thrown into chaos.

Lol, I don't know why XFlak changed it, but ModMii is not the only good softmod guide out there. Having 222v5 is pretty rare.

It's been so long since I tried v5 base 38/37, so I don't remember what wasn't working, just that I had some trouble with a few of my games. I wasn't alone either, you could probably find some threads on it if you look a year or more back (I really don't feel like it). Once guide owners returned to recommending v4, the threads stopped.

I do remember that the problems weren't so much with the games, but with the loaders. USB loaders were eventually updated to have good compatibility with v5.

 

[Lacius]

Lol, I don't know why XFlak changed it, but ModMii is not the only good softmod guide out there. Having 222v5 is pretty rare.

It's been so long since I tried v5 base 38/37, so I don't remember what wasn't working, just that I had some trouble with a few of my games. I wasn't alone either, you could probably find some threads on it if you look a year or more back (I really don't feel like it). Once guide owners returned to recommending v4, the threads stopped.

I do remember that the problems weren't so much with the games, but with the loaders. USB loaders were eventually updated to have good compatibility with v5.

From what I understand, the only reason IOS223 isn't v5 is because v4 is the latest version that supports the 37+38 combination, but the improvements in v5 warrant its use with the other IOS files with the loaders we have these days. Arguably, the change from 5 to 5.1 was minimal so it doesn't matter (but there is no reason not to use 5.1 over 5 or 4 either). I've barely had the chance to play with Rodries' 5.1 mod, but the feedback seems to be positive.

 

[King of Games]

Does 38 do most backups?No, you want to install 249d2x56 v6. It does 99% of backups. Anything that does not work with 249d2x56 v6 probably requires base 57, which is what 250d2x57 v6 is for. Here is the full recommended setup for backup loading:

IOS222: Hermes cIOS Installer v5.1 MOD by Rodries (base 38) - I never use this, but I suppose it's nice to have. Actually, I think I used it recently to get my USB keyboard working with Animal Crossing: City Folk.
IOS223: Hermes cIOS Installer v4 (base 37+38) - I never use this. It's for band games that use USB instruments, but I've read that they work with 249d2x56. I cannot confirm this.
IOS224: Hermes cIOS Installer v5.1 MOD by Rodries (base 57) - Again, I never use this. Someone else can probably better explain why it is still useful (if it is).
IOS249: 249d2x56 v6 (base 56, obviously) - This works with 99% of games. I highly recommend it.
IOS250: 250d2x57 v6 (base 57, obviously) - This works with games like Black Ops that do not work with 249d2x56 (because some games require IOS57). I suppose you could also use IOS224 instead.

QUOTE(King of Games @ Jul 22 2011, 09:21 PM) And one final question, is running a channel from the wii menu better than running one from the homebrew channel, or is there no real difference?

I am not entirely sure what you are asking. If you are using a forwarder channel on your Wii Menu to launch, say, Configurable USB Loader, then it is just forwarding you to the application on your SD card. It doesn't really matter which one you use. Whichever is most convenient for you, I suppose.

Where did you get the 222 v5.1 from? 222 is supposed is recommended as v4.

@KoG: Forwarder ISO's are fake games that just load channels (both on the Wii and emulated NAND) and homebrew. They require base 38. Just about any homebrew that uses 249 requires base 38.

If you only plan on playing discs, go ahead and use base 56 for 249. If you want to expand past that to more complicated things, install base 56 to 248 and make that your default for USB loading, and put base 38 in 249.

You can always change it later, so for now you should probably stick with base 56.

Well, right now my intention is to only play backups off my USB flash drive. I have a few random programs on my homebrew channel like cheat downloaders and managers, as well as some emulators and the homebrew browser.. but I have absolutely no idea what ios or base they're running on.

The world of wii modding is still really new to me. So, I only know the basic stuff. When people start talking about ios and bases, my head explodes. I was only able to complete this task because of the guide and because of you guys.

 

[Lacius]

Well, right now my intention is to only play backups off my USB flash drive. I have a few random programs on my homebrew channel like cheat downloaders and managers, as well as some emulators and the homebrew browser.. but I have absolutely no idea what ios or base they're running on.

Depending on what you're using, they're likely using IOS236 or IOS58+AHBPROT and you won't have to worry about them.

 

[JoostinOnline]

Lol, I don't know why XFlak changed it, but ModMii is not the only good softmod guide out there. Having 222v5 is pretty rare.

It's been so long since I tried v5 base 38/37, so I don't remember what wasn't working, just that I had some trouble with a few of my games. I wasn't alone either, you could probably find some threads on it if you look a year or more back (I really don't feel like it). Once guide owners returned to recommending v4, the threads stopped.

I do remember that the problems weren't so much with the games, but with the loaders. USB loaders were eventually updated to have good compatibility with v5.

From what I understand, the only reason IOS223 isn't v5 is because v4 is the latest version that supports the 37+38 combination, but the improvements in v5 warrant its use with the other IOS files with the loaders we have these days. Arguably, the change from 5 to 5.1 was minimal so it doesn't matter (but there is no reason not to use 5.1 over 5 or 4 either). I've barely had the chance to play with Rodries' 5.1 mod, but the feedback seems to be positive.

No, it's all about compatibility. v5 and 5.1 can use base 37.

 

[Lacius]

No, it's all about compatibility. v5 and 5.1 can use base 37.

What recommended Hermes' cIOS uses base 37 (other than IOS223, which is v4 and 38+37)?

 

[King of Games]

Well, right now my intention is to only play backups off my USB flash drive. I have a few random programs on my homebrew channel like cheat downloaders and managers, as well as some emulators and the homebrew browser.. but I have absolutely no idea what ios or base they're running on.

Depending on what you're using, they're likely using IOS236 or IOS58+AHBPROT and you won't have to worry about them.

I know for a fact that my homebrew channel is using ios58 because I installed it a couple of days ago. I read it allows you to use both usb ports now or something.

 

[JoostinOnline]

No, it's all about compatibility. v5 and 5.1 can use base 37.

What recommended Hermes' cIOS uses base 37 (other than IOS223, which is v4 and 38+37)?

Nothing. When v5 was first released, that's what people installed (223 base 37), but once they realized v4 had better compatibility, they reverted to 222 base 38 and 223 base 38 merged with 37.

 

[carlitos92jose]

No, it's all about compatibility. v5 and 5.1 can use base 37.

What recommended Hermes' cIOS uses base 37 (other than IOS223, which is v4 and 38+37)?

Nothing. When v5 was first released, that's what people installed (223 base 37), but once they realized v4 had better compatibility, they reverted to 222 base 38 and 223 base 38 merged with 37.

but the hermes 5.1mod by rodries is better than 4?

 

[JoostinOnline]

No, it's all about compatibility. v5 and 5.1 can use base 37.

What recommended Hermes' cIOS uses base 37 (other than IOS223, which is v4 and 38+37)?

Nothing. When v5 was first released, that's what people installed (223 base 37), but once they realized v4 had better compatibility, they reverted to 222 base 38 and 223 base 38 merged with 37.

but the hermes 5.1mod by rodries is better than 4?

They both have advantages and disadvantages. It's speed vs compatibility. 222v4 and 223v4 are fall-backs if 224v5.1 (mod) isn't compatible with a game.

 

[jbogart1973]

Quick qestion , I softmodded my wii not to long ago (excellent tout by the way

) and ran the modmii with all the ios files loading ok, but a couple of my games are still loading into this black screen . Did i miss a step ?

 

[plasmata]

You might need to change the cios those games use. Which games are they?