broken roms on websites.

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  1. migles
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    when i download old roms, (specially packs with them)
    sometimes the zip files contain a lot of tagged roms [b2] [b3] etc which means they are broken dumps..

    so, i wanted to ask, why are theese broken dumps not deleted? whats the purpose of websites wasting bandwith\resources to distribute rom packs full of broken dumps..
    a lot of times i found myself confused on which one to load.. since the verified one is in the middle of all the others
     
  2. Heran Bago

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    [b#] means bad dump, not broken. Your question still remains.


    Some of them have historic value, like they point out faults in copiers, or were the only versions available at some point. Before the goodset naming system came along you would have to figure out why your dump wasn't working on a specific emulator/copier setup and you'd have to hunt down the Paradox dump instead of the Eurasia one for example.

    With the advent of goodsets and nointro movements there really isn't a need for them! There should be an entirely separate rom set for scene dumps, and they should be in the original LZ archive formats or whatever.

    Good news is thanks to the 7zip archive format, they don't waste particularly more space or bandwidth. If a .7z contains two files with only a few bytes difference between the two, the archive itself will be the compressed size of one plus a few bytes.
     
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    A very specific example is a Sonic 2 beta which contained graphics from Chiki Chiki Boys where there would otherwise be blank data written to the eeprom. Similarly there is an overdump ( [o] rather than [b#] ) version of Sonic Crackers from an old development eeprom. The extra space in the ROM contains graphics and data for an unreleased Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game.
     
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    that seems super cool :D

    thanks for the explanation.. this clears it up, i didnt realized that 7zip was great for duplicated data..

    btw, is nointro a group or something? thought nointro would be, games without the intro movies
     
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    Back when the scene was cool release groups used to embed their own intros into games to show everyone what they're made of, they often contained trainers and other cool stuff. Nointro just means that the dump is stripped of that extra content.
     
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    It's cool for translations and other hacks, but regular dumps? Unnecessary D:
     
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    Disagreed, although it should be optional or a separate file for the sake of clean ROM preservation. Removing an Intro and repacking is disrespectful to the original dumper, it's equivalent to removing a watermark. Anywho...

    http://www.no-intro.org/story.htm
     
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    The scene used to have a lot of personality. Groups were actively and publicly competing with eachother. I've seen an NFO from the bbs days outlining points that a group gets for getting a dump normally, early, beta/prototype, trained, etc. The intros also showed off a groups technical abilities on the system. It's not all good stuff though. Some intros like MODE7's GBA ones are unskippable and appeared in the news when some kid's pirate copy of Yoshi's Island dropped an F-bomb.

    I understand the importance of clean dumps and like no-intro's intentions. One result though is that ROMs with trainers and intros became increasingly hard to find.
     
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    Do you have the news source as I'd love to see it.
     
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    Google search turned up a different game, but still MODE7 intro. Whoops.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article100660.ece
     
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    I giggled. I especially likes how that shitty newspaper accused Disney lol.