Suggestion Ban slop

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If you're concerned about the environmental impacts of AI, my contribution is a drop in the ocean.
"Trump has fucked so many kids that me fucking a kid or two now and then is a drop in the ocean" idk, if it's a bad thing maybe just don't do it
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Ai farms have just as much environmental impact as CGi rendering farms or crypto farms, and nobody bats an eye at those. They can spare me their fake/misplaced outrage.
Crypto farms can eat a dick. They're known to have fucked the market for GPUs to a noticeable degree so the scale of that problem is at least significant, I don't honestly know about the rendering farms but I haven't heard it talked about before your post.
Don't try and deny that the scale of the problem for AI is overwhelmingly beyond those or anything else that has come before tho. All RAM from multiple major manufacturers for the foreseeable future bought up in advance, tell me when something like that has happened before.
 
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maybe a solution would be to start allowing downvotes on the forum and let the problem sort itself?

we could have a user profile setting allowing people to ignore content that has been downvoted (with a threshold) or even users that have been downvoted too often
 
maybe a solution would be to start allowing downvotes on the forum and let the problem sort itself?

we could have a user profile setting allowing people to ignore content that has been downvoted (with a threshold) or even users that have been downvoted too often
My first reaction: that sounds like it might help somewhat
My second reaction: that sounds like becoming more like Reddit :unsure:

It's a tricky one I'll give you that.
 
It's a rhetorical question.

"Slop" is a new term to describe content with little effort involved to make it addictive; this can be YouTube shorts, artwork, or other forms of media, such as the case with AI.
so it's like something like if i make a stick person drawing of one stick person kicking the other in the groin and it's not worth anyone's time to look at it. so it's slop. is that right? (if i'm wrong let me know)
 
Just a rant: Why do people keep derailing this thread? I don't have a clue what the fuck Trump (or any other divisive figure) has to do with anything in this thread, it is not really about world politics but related to the site in particular; and even if I admit that I would be annoyed if the world burns up to the last drop of oil, coal, uranium (or any other resource) to power AI (what a waste), I don't think that's the point of this thread. At least not from what I understand and/or care.

The point is that the stupid AI generated slop is soulless, boring, and easy to make, because of this it fills everything of shit, it creates an overflow that takes away your time and attention and makes it very hard to spot stuff written or created by real people with some intention behind it... it is... sad. As far as I understand the point of this thread (very badly explained in the OP unfortunately, but still a very valid point) is to make an appeal for some measures to be taken to stop the site from being flooded with this kind of low effort shit.
 
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maybe a solution would be to start allowing downvotes on the forum and let the problem sort itself?

we could have a user profile setting allowing people to ignore content that has been downvoted (with a threshold) or even users that have been downvoted too often
yeah nah i don't want this place turning into reddit...and people will defiantly be abusing it just to try and get posts by people they don't like hidden especially in the world news section :lol:
 
so it's like something like if i make a stick person drawing of one stick person kicking the other in the groin and it's not worth anyone's time to look at it. so it's slop. is that right? (if i'm wrong let me know)
In general maybe, although not so much unless we kept seeing a lot of the same kind of thing. Specifically I was referring to AI generated slop, tho I do realise I didn't explicitly state that, it seems like it was clear enough in context for those familiar with it.
 
as much as I would like to raise the standards here, it's much more difficult than it sounds
in order to be fair, rules need to be as objective as possible, factual, verifiable, so the question is what do we call "slop" exactly ?
is it anything that we don't like? it's an extremely subjective notion and that my friend is a slippery slop
There are a lot of instances of folks on this site admitting to using AI to make their post. Can we ban that at least?
 
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If AI is being used constructively then let the AI generated content stay. If I remember correctly, one homebrewer released some bluetooth module written with AI and it worked. Then we have a post Hippy Dave mentioned which was translated with AI.

If content is clearly AI written, outside the EOF and unconstructive then by all means delete it.
 
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so it's like something like if i make a stick person drawing of one stick person kicking the other in the groin and it's not worth anyone's time to look at it. so it's slop. is that right? (if i'm wrong let me know)
Sort of:

"AI slop (also known simply as slop) is digital content made with generative artificial intelligence that is lacking in effort, quality, or meaning, and produced in high volume as clickbait to gain advantage in the attention economy"

Think of it as don't post shit you put zero effort and thought into. Treat here like you're a guest at someone else' home (you are).
 
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as much as I would like to raise the standards here, it's much more difficult than it sounds
in order to be fair, rules need to be as objective as possible, factual, verifiable, so the question is what do we call "slop" exactly ?
is it anything that we don't like? it's an extremely subjective notion and that my friend is a slippery slop

:unsure::unsure::unsure: I would tend to say, WHOM is it to pronounce it "SLOP"? Would it be their own interpretation, or by the collective?
 
:unsure::unsure::unsure: I would tend to say, WHOM is it to pronounce it "SLOP"? Would it be their own interpretation, or by the collective?
What about this?
AI slop until proven innocent.

Let's consider any content made with AI to be AI slop by default.
A "vote" / "interpretation" would be required for it not to be considered slop... let's go with that.
Now, perhaps the "consensus" for this "vote" is way too hard to implement in a fair way, so let's go with different approach:
  • Each user decides if they want to see AI generated stuff or not, it is a user decision/setting.
  • Anybody that posts stuff generated with AI needs to declare, somehow (a checkmark in the post box, I don't care how) that the content is generated with AI.
  • The users that don't want to see AI shit just don't see these posts.
  • A user posting AI generated stuff and lying regarding it being AI generated can get a warning/ban.
 
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What about this?
AI slop until proven innocent.

Let's consider any content made with AI to be AI slop by default.
A "vote" / "interpretation" would be required for it not to be considered slop... let's go with that.
Now, perhaps the "consensus" for this "vote" is too way to implement in a fair way, so let's go with different approach:
  • Each user decides if they want to see AI generated stuff or not, it is a user decision/setting.
  • Anybody that posts stuff generated with AI needs to declare, somehow (a checkmark in the post box, I don't care how) that the content is generated with AI.
  • The users that don't want to see AI shit just don't see these posts.
  • A user posting AI generated stuff and lying regarding it being AI generated can get a warning/ban.

:teach: Ahhh, but some peeps would then just say/call it AI, when in fact it isn't. Thus, I'd say "No" to this.
 
If it's too hard to be sure then whatever, but when it's really obvious shit that looks like all the other slop, and is unpleasant to have to see, let alone know the harm it's doing, could it just be deleted and discouraged please?
This concern touches on a number of overlapping considerations that are difficult to fully disentangle, especially when viewed through the lens of modern online ecosystems, where volume, visibility, and velocity all interact in ways that can feel overwhelming. When something appears obvious, that obviousness often emerges not from a single defining characteristic, but from an accumulation of patterns that resemble other patterns, which themselves are shaped by prior exposure and expectation.


From a moderation standpoint, certainty is rarely binary, and decisions exist in a probabilistic space where thresholds must be inferred rather than measured. What looks like “slop” to one observer may register as experimentation, automation, or even transitional participation to another, and drawing firm lines can unintentionally collapse nuance into oversimplification. This is not to say that unpleasantness or harm are not real, but rather that their assessment requires contextual layering over time.


Discouragement, while intuitively appealing, functions best when embedded within broader frameworks of guidance, signaling, and community calibration. Deletion alone does not address root causes, which may include incentive structures, accessibility of tools, or shifting norms around effort and originality. Addressing outcomes without interrogating inputs risks creating cycles where similar content reappears in slightly altered forms.


Additionally, the emotional response to encountering repetitive or low-signal material is itself part of the feedback loop, influencing how communities self-regulate and how contributors adapt their behavior. Awareness of harm is an important factor, but harm itself is diffuse, distributed, and often indirect, making it harder to operationalize in a consistent way across cases.


Ultimately, what emerges is not a simple question of whether something should be deleted, but how communities negotiate evolving definitions of value, authorship, and participation in environments increasingly shaped by automated systems. These negotiations are ongoing, iterative, and necessarily imperfect, but they benefit from continued discussion rather than definitive endpoints.
 
maybe a solution would be to start allowing downvotes on the forum and let the problem sort itself?

we could have a user profile setting allowing people to ignore content that has been downvoted (with a threshold) or even users that have been downvoted too often
That sounds like a good idea until you see sites with this feature and how many of them just get abused to downvote unpopular users or opinions. It's too easy of an abusable feature.
 
as much as I would like to raise the standards here, it's much more difficult than it sounds
in order to be fair, rules need to be as objective as possible, factual, verifiable, so the question is what do we call "slop" exactly ?
is it anything that we don't like? it's an extremely subjective notion and that my friend is a slippery slop
That slippery slope is what causes so many of those overly moderated subreddit to want posts to be a super duper specific format and it takes 10 trys just for the post to not get instantly deleted but then still deleted because they didn’t like how you worded it
 

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